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The Creature from Jekyll Island:
We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!
Of course he originally stated Pence would choose Donald Trump's electors, just as he originally stated the 12th Amendment states the VP can choose which electors will be counted ("Well, it doesn't not say it!"). His entire thread has been a series of moving goalposts, and links to sites that don't support what he's saying.Originally Posted by JJ2
He obviously doesn't understand the 12th Amendment, what the ramifications of the 12th Amendment would be under his interpretation, and that the 12th Amendment wasn't created by the Founding Fathers. He's lost touch with reality.
The state judicial authorities didn't find any reason to void the certifications of electors.
Not really. If existing state law says that the winner of the popular vote gets the state's electoral votes and that the Governor or the Secretary of State certifies the vote, the legislature would need to do a number of things: (1) legally convene under the State's constitution, (2) enact after-the-fact legislation that would change how the electoral votes are awarded and who would certify the new electors, which would have to withstand serious constitutional challenges (which it wouldn't), and (3) presumably have the Governor approve the legislation (although there are arguments that the Governor's approval wouldn't bet necessary).
Of course, none of that has happened yet, and it's extremely unlikely that it will happen by January 6. But suppose it did. Pence still doesn't get to choose which electors' votes count because the votes of the electors certified by the safe harbor date are the ones that get counted under the ECA.
Oh please. Such paranoia is tiresome. Trump's hand-picked justices (Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett) are Deep State moles? Get real.
We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
Erwin N. Griswold
Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
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You’re taking everything I say out of context then accuse me of moving the goal posts which is the classic straw man argument and you lost touch reality.
Last edited by dude58677; 12-19-2020 at 02:17 PM.
Well Einstein, I said that IF Mike Pence chooses Donald Trumps electors but both chambers of Congress reject the slate then there is no majority and it goes to State Delegations which are State Legislatures. Yes you need to improve your reading skills.
No, because I was using Mike Pence as a hypothetical scenario to illustrate my point but because you take everything else I say out of context such as House Delegations(State Legislatures). I shouldn’t be surprised that you would also take this out of context.
You clearly did state that Pence would choose the alternate electors. You stated it repeatedly in this thread. Anyone can read what you wrote:
Of course, Tufts wants us to conveniently forget that in the battleground states we have NO F U C K I N G idea who the winner was.
Once we get the military to repeat the elections in those states then we’ll know who the REAL winner is.
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ROFLMAO!
It’s his best path to victory whether it happens or not is anyone’s guess. Not hard to figure out.
The question is what would you say if Mike Pence does choose Donald Trumps electors, what you say?
Last edited by dude58677; 12-19-2020 at 03:49 PM.
We are talking about this Pence, right?
I won't say anything. I'll keel over in a dead faint.
No, the House delegations are not state legislatures. Lol.
Nothing wrong with your reading skills. Must be time for the OP to reexamine his own.
Smugs, it’s not Nancy Pelosi! I know that you wish it were but sorry it isn’t!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...-election/amp/
Yea that same guy!
https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_penc...581953?lang=en
Last edited by dude58677; 12-19-2020 at 06:10 PM.
You just confirmed that he was right and you were wrong all along. And called him names, and accused him of being fond of the head of this body of 435 people just because he mentioned delegations to that body.
Do you never tire of making an ass of yourself?
You think Mr. MAGI (Make Americans Get Inoculated) has balls enough to do more than trashtweet? Good luck with that.
Last edited by acptulsa; 12-19-2020 at 06:15 PM.
Here’s the bottom line. You have not come up any convincing arguments yet! None of you have! You don’t bring anything valuable to the discussion. You have made arguments that are irrelevant to the discussion. Whether I made a prediction or not! LMAO! And no the article does not prove you right. LMAO!
The state delegations are not state legislatures.
Either way Republicans still control it.
It's not "either way." It's a matter of fact. And yes of course the Republicans control the state delegations--I never argued otherwise. But it will never get to that point.
What’s to stop it from happening? Hey are you so sure that Mike Pence wouldn’t do it? Would Mike Pence go to jail? If Mike Pence does not go to jail, how can there be a court ruling in 14 days? Wouldn’t Mike Pence not trying be a concession from Donald Trump? Why would he betray his supporters? Why would he give up a second term when he it’s one of his only avenues? Why would he risk not getting a chance to become President when he knows the elections are rigged? It’s said he won’t do it because of rioting but Donald Trump would be the type to declare martial law, isn’t this an easier more peaceful approach? If it is about his family being threatened isn’t that why he has Secret Service? Weren’t there going to be riots if Donald Trump was declared the winner on November 3 anyway? What does Mike Pence have to lose?
Last edited by dude58677; 12-19-2020 at 06:51 PM.
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It's simply Pence following the law. But even if Pence does try to count the Trump electors, the House and Senate will both object and will vote to count the certified electors. It will never get to the "no majority" stage where the House delegations get to vote.
Why would he count electors(Joe Biden’s electors instead of Donald Trumps) based on a fraudulent election if he is going to follow the law?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Penc...35273123581953
https://mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Pence
Last edited by dude58677; 12-20-2020 at 02:12 AM.
yeah. no kidding.
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