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One the ACLU is working with the Libertarian Party on this issue. We have support from Tony Rothert, Legal Directory for the Missouri ACLU. He's beginning to file sunshine requests on this report. Also fighting this issue along side us is the Liberty Resoration Project, the Campaign for Liberty, and the Constitution Party. And guess what? We are being heard!
Some Missouri Legislators have become aware of this and most are outraged. Our law makers are getting fed up with it. I've personally spoken with 8 of our legislators in Jefferson city... the ones who were aware of this report were all upset by it.
I personally had the pleasure of speaking to Rep. Chris Kelly (a democrat who attends many libertarian functions) and he mentioned that a budget bill is on the floor which includes funding for the Dept. of Public Safety and that he expects an amendment to be introduced to reduce DPS funding because of the MIAC Report. He also said that he put a call in to the governors office on our behalf.
So it's important that everyone calls there lawmaker and makes them aware of this issue and tell them to reduce funding to Public Safety because this report is profiling and you're outraged. In my conversations with about 10 legislators, I discovered that many of our lawmakers are still unaware that this report exists.... so LET THEM KNOW.
We may yet get the necessary political pressure to get the MIAC,
MHP and DPS to remove the political issue/party portion of the
report.
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On another note.
Not only were several political groups called out, but the report singled out the religious right, which if you view this document http://www.it.ojp.gov/documents/Civi...ies_Impact.pdf
and more specifically this
http://www.ise.gov/docs/privacy/CR-C...%208-11-08.pdf
you will see that the report is in violation of federal law.
Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.
What others do pales beside what YOU do.
Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...
"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
~ C.Coolidge
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Hi there! I'm not aware if there's currently an official writing campaign, but all members, whether in the state of Missouri or not, are encouraged to write, call, or anything else to let the people in charge know that we're very displeased.
Catherine has a project going right now; her link is somewhere in this thread.
The Joint letter from RP/CB/BB
Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.
What others do pales beside what YOU do.
Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...
"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
~ C.Coolidge
Well, I wonder if that will get their attention.
I also wonder if a public response would actually change the SOP in the field.
We know they will say anything.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Maybe they can spend more time chasing criminals and less time whipping the Fusion boys into a Gestapo like frenzy with state funded propaganda.
I love it, call it what it is "nonsense" or I would have called it the ramblings of some idiots.
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Glen Beck says a statement was released by the MIAC saying it was a mistake to have the 3rd party references and it will be removed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTGw4OpMkTg
Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.
What others do pales beside what YOU do.
Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...
"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
~ C.Coolidge
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Is there a PDF of this joint letter ?
"Never Miss a Good Chance to Shut up"
No doubt, But history may hold some answers.
Posted this in another thread.
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointe...reportIIcd.htm
The Committee finds that covert action programs have been used to disrupt the lawful political activities of individual Americans and groups and to discredit them, using dangerous and degrading tactics which are abhorrent in a free and decent society.It was related to actions taken during the Civil rights movement.Subfindings
(a) Although the claimed purposes of these action programs were to protect the national security and to prevent violence, many of the victims were concededly nonviolent, were not controlled by a foreign power, and posed no threat to the national security.
(b) The acts taken interfered with the First Amendment rights of citizens. They were explicitly intended to deter citizens from joining groups, "neutralize" those who were already members, and prevent or inhibit the expression of ideas.
(c) The tactics used against Americans often risked and sometimes caused serious emotional, economic, or physical damage. Actions were taken which were designed to break up marriages, terminate funding or employment, and encourage gang warfare between violent rival groups. Due process of law forbids the use of such covert tactics, whether the victims are innocent law-abiding citizens or members of groups suspected of involvement in violence.
(d) The sustained use of such tactics by the FBI in an attempt to destroy Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., violated the law and fundamental human decency.
I heard some where that those that don't remember history, are condemned to repeat it.
Last edited by pcosmar; 03-24-2009 at 09:02 AM.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
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rewritten history with armies of their crooks - invented memories, did burn all the books... Mark Knopfler
MIAC Report uses a broad stroke to label people with a dissenting point of view as Terrorist. According to the report, even Glenn Beck should be suspected. We must fight back. Don't let this happen in America. Please take action and make these calls. It's our country and the thugs running it need to know how we feel.
Take Action Now!
1. Call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and say you will not be visiting Missouri out of concern of being PROFILED.
(314) 231-5555
2. Call the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission and tell them you won't visit Missouri because of "political profiling".
(800) 325-7962
3. Call the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) and tell them their smear campaign is not acceptable.
( 866) 362-6422 and (573)-526-6115
Look at all the new PR (support from republican partY)
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=185596
ALSO: TONIGHT FROM 6-7PM CENTRAL BRYON WILL BE ON KKFI 90.1FM TALKING ABOUT THE MIAC REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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“Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee
http://www.securitymanagement.com/ne...rt-says-005461
more at link04/02/2009 - A constitutional and international lawyer told lawmakers yesterday that the United States should dismantle state-run intelligence fusion centers, which have grown dramatically since 9-11 with the assistance of the federal government. Police and federal officials defended fusion centers and described measures being taken to protect citizens’ privacy and civil liberties.
Bruce Fein, of Bruce Fein & Associates and The Lichfield Group, compared state fusions centers to the Soviet Union’s KGB and East Germany’s Stasi and called for the United States to “abandon fusion centers that engage 800,000 state and local law enforcement officers in the business of gathering and sharing allegedly domestic or international terrorism intelligence."
Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.
What others do pales beside what YOU do.
Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...
"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
~ C.Coolidge
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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