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No, most likely not.
The men who would carry out such a thing are so utterly demoralized, chemically castrated and mentally poisoned against themselves and their posterity, they kill themselves by the hundreds of thousands on cheap synthetic Chinese dope, or swallow their pistol barrel, before lifting a finger to save themselves.
The rest lack the guts to even try that, waiting instead for a suicide booth to be set on their street, or to just die in the next wave of man made plague that comes out of communist China.
The only question I suppose, is this: how long will this Dark Age last and will mankind be able to recover from it?
“Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee
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Warnock won because Trump's loser Apprentice candidate and USFL draft pick was the Republican candidate. Any normal Republican wins this election . Brian Kemp won the race for governor by 8%.
Warnock won in 2020 because Trump put the Republican candidates in an impossible position. He came out promoting $2500 stimmies after both the Republican candidates who already won the first round said they were against more stimmies.
I agree. Walker was a weak candidate on multiple levels. He should have never been promoted. It was ridiculous.
But, the fact that this election no longer swung the Senate either way, that was the real deciding factor.
If a Walker win would have taken the Senate for GOP, I think he would have won.
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Some people might try it. Those people will likely receive death as a reward and increased tyranny for everyone else in the aftermath. Furthermore, the genius behind the decision to allow unfettered and unassimilated immigration is that the sort of common cultural bond needed to give it a chance at success already no longer exists. Simply put, heterogeneous societies are incapable of the kind of cohesion needed for secession to be both undertaken and successfully defended. It is much easier to put down an insurrection when members of a different group than the ones perpetrating it are called upon to do it.
In other words, secession either will not happen or it is already doomed to failure as a result of decisions made decades ago. As such, there is little to do other than to enjoy the decline and fall and hope that American history serves as a cautionary tale to some future group.
As a sidenote, secession is prone to failure even in a homogeneous society. It is difficult enough without considering other factors, but once heterogeneity is considered, it becomes a suicidal choice.
You have a point, but I am keeping it as the Roman Empire for a few reasons. The first being that this country is an empire and has been since at least the American Civil War. There is no question that Americans from that time onward have reaped similar benefits as those gained by citizens belonging to a prosperous empire. Similarly, Romans did benefit from the transition into an empire for a time. Secondly, the legislature of this country is an ornamental piece much as it was once emperors came into being in Rome. This is reflected by the executive branch continually expanding its reach and influence as legislators do little to nothing. The spirit of the American Republic may have ended during President George W. Bush's time (if not sooner - some would argue the creation of the Federal Reserve or other historically significant dates, but the Patriot Act signaled a dramatic shift away from paying lip service to the idea of a republic into a sort of executive branch dictatorship), and far too few realized it at the time. For reasons mentioned earlier, we will not have a Sulla. That will be our modern innovation on the ancient cycle of an empire.An even better analogy is the decline and fall of the Roman Republic.
The parallels between present-day America and the late Roman Republic are many and striking - increasing degradation and escalating abrogations of mos maiorum (especially in regard to its political norms), massive and contentious expansions of enfranchisement, the financial and logistic difficulties of maintaining client-state hegemony, etc. (The only really "big" things missing are analogs of the Marian military reforms.)
If not repetition, then there is certainly a lot of "rhyming" going on. Rhymes have a tempo, though, so before we get to our version of Julius Caesar (let alone Octavian/Augustus) - and if you are correct that secession won't happen (or maybe even because it does happen) - then we're basically just waiting for a latter-day Sulla ...
Aside from that, the only thing we are waiting for is repeated sacking by barbarians to signal the end of the American experiment. With the barbarians already inside the gates and different areas refusing to prosecute crimes such as theft, that point may already be passing without it being realized at the present time.
After the country has been sacked enough, balkanization can be expected as that is the inevitable fate of heterogeneous societies that face hardships that were formerly prevented by the empire that governed them. That balkanization is the closest the future people of this country will ever get to secession, but it is obviously inferior on account of secession being based on ideals rather than tribal concerns like those associated with balkanization.
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Setting aside the demoralization, those that would rise up would be quashed with the assistance of outside groups that are already inside the country. This country is no longer capable of the sort of cultural cohesion required to effectively combat and defeat tyranny. There are millions of people, belonging to many different cultures, that would gladly destroy an attempt at secession in the hopes of elevating their group's position within the extant hierarchy.
If mankind ever does return to traditional American values, it would take a miracle. A culture that prioritizes individualism and liberty are anomalous within the broader context of the species. Mankind will continue, but it will continue as it always has - arranged in hierarchies built upon collectivist cultures.
Exactly! I don't think anyone ought to read any more than that into the election.
Beyond the percentages, there were over 18,000 voters who cast ballots for Governor but couldn't bring themselves to cast a ballot for Senator. The Libertarian candidate for Governor received 28,074 votes - those are the die-hard libertarians. The Libertarian candidate for Senator received 81,173 votes - 53,099 more than the die-hards.
Furthermore, about 6.5% of the people who voted for Warnock in the general didn't bother to come out and vote in the runoff. But the case for Walker was even worse - about 9.8% of the people who voted for him the general failed to turn out for the runoff.
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Originally Posted by Philhelm
Somebody gave Mrs. AF a copy of Battle for the American Mind: Uprooting a Century of Miseducation.
Now, I'm hesitant to quote from a ghost written book authored by a Conservative Inc. grifter, but they do make a very valid point concerning that word, "values".
Basic thumbnail of the point they made: Marxist theft of the language has stolen the word that goes there: "virtues".
Diversity and "inclusion", i.e. "That insane fat man in a dress is actually a woman and you must address it as so, in the name of tolerance" is a "value".
Thrift, individual independence, a strong work ethic, wisdom...these are "virtues", all of them and more used to form the basis of an educational padeia that was the foundation of Western Civilization.
Now they reduced from "morals" to "values", no different than any other.
“Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee
This always grinds my gears.
These two words, "diversity", and "inclusion" are diametrically opposed - they cannot sustainably co-exist.
The only way those two things can co-exist, is if one chooses to define "diversity" purely by skin color.
Inclusion is necessarily the death of any meaningful form of culture.
One could even make the argument that culture is defined by intolerance and exclusion.
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Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
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Quite a lot of irony in the brain damaged Dem winning (PA) while the brain damaged Repub loses (GA). Can anyone still honestly say they don't think Trump is and always has been a trojan horse? Everything he does and pretty much ever did damages the GOP yet there are still posters here carrying his water.
Having said that......lol@voting. $#@!'s been rigged since the fake Bush/Gore election drama created the excuse to introduce the machines.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
This was based upon the November general election exit polling for the Georgia Senate (Walker/Warnock/Oliver) race
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You know it's kinda odd I've voted since I was 18 (almost 20 years) and I've never been approached by nor seen anyone doing an exit poll. It's a rural town though. I wonder how they conduct those and have anything near a broad sample size, assuming they stick near major cities.
Only asking because I think the latinos are shifting in Georgia to republican (not as fast as Florida's). But that probably doesn't apply to the metro areas.
I definitely don't believe that fewer latino men are voting republican than latino women.
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T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
And they're running a variation of the same playbook in order to introduce the already-created USPS blockchain (smartphone?) voting system. My guess is it'll be publicized widely next year for eventual use in the 2024 election cycle. I'd expect Elon and Donald to be the major mouthpieces for it so Republicans buy into it as the solution to the rigging problem.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
The most shocking Senate result: Every incumbent won
One of the most common refrains in politics is voters hate Washington and want outsiders to be elected to office. But Sen. Raphael Warnock’s victory in Georgia’s Senate runoff on Tuesday is part of a trend that suggests that, at least in 2022, that wasn’t true.
Each of the 29 Senate incumbents who ran for reelection won. This year’s Senate elections marked the first time in at least a century in which no incumbent senator up for reelection lost.
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Like in the Senate, incumbent governors across the board seemed to do historically well. There was just one governor who lost reelection (Steve Sisolak of Nevada). That one loss marks the fewest losses by sitting governors in cycles in which at least 10 of them ran since at least 1948.
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