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Not a big fan of the spending more money thing...
Spend money on that bill from where?
the government is broke.
He's on roll lately, good stuff.
His budget cuts a lot of stuff elsewhere no doubt to pay for security
Yeah..I wished Rand hadn't made the "worst since 9-11" comparison. He definitely had to back track on that with Wolf.
Last edited by anaconda; 01-23-2013 at 08:07 PM.
It's not like it dominated the conversation, it took all of :10 seconds to explain. Obviously he meant a diplomatic blunder, this was a good interview.
As for the appropriation remarks. The appropriation will probably come out of the DOD's current budget. And frankly aslong as we have diplomats overseas we're responsible for their safety. This is spending we shouldn't be cutting; the issue is the military budget.
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By way of the Vienna treaty, countries in which embassies and consulates are located are responsible for their security.
Additionally, arguing for military defense of these consulates and embassies is arguing for empire and overseas bases. Far from non-interventionism, this is an endorsement of our foreign policy.
The epitome of libertarian populismOriginally Posted by Ron Paul
Rand Paul: Benghazi A Judgement Failure By Secretary Clinton
CNN | January 23, 2013
http://youtu.be/3WXfIyYcMxc
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I don't think that the treaty applies when you are at war with country you have an embassy in.And the USA was at war with Libya.You can not go around the world attacking countries on all continents and have your fingers in every war,rebellion,dictator and not expect blow back.You reap what you saw,and when you saw death you certainly are not going to reap hugs and kisses.
There never are any reports about Chinese,Japanese,Brazilian embassies being burned down and that is because they mind their own business.
Not to mention that USA embassies in almost every country are just a screen for the CIA,if you add marines to them as well they are completely legitimate targets.
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Last edited by Demigod; 01-24-2013 at 06:27 AM.
Obsessing about Benghazi didn't exactly lead Romney & the GOP into the White House. Such things may have traction in the over 60 GOP crowd, which will be over 64 in 2016, but not too many other places.
He's clearly riding the wave of this current media topic to the fullest extant and keeping his name out there. Above all, he's getting the most press out of this, pissing off the left and getting major gravitas from most of the right wing media. He's playing each issue for all they are worth. If you're on Hannity and Levin in one day on a current major issue, you're doing something right in terms of being from the pro-liberty camp.
The epitome of libertarian populismOriginally Posted by Ron Paul
Romney didn't obsess over Benghazi. He pushed one little thing about it when under fire in the debate and failed. It was another example of Romney trying to "run to the middle."
Last edited by Feeding the Abscess; 01-25-2013 at 12:51 AM.
The epitome of libertarian populismOriginally Posted by Ron Paul
Whoa whoa. I want to hear about budget cuts elsewhere before I want to hear about increasing billions for security for CIA black sites.
Note to Rand: Don't talk about 9/11 ever. Learn from Debra Medina's path on this. Wolf appeared to be setting you up for a later "truther" interview. And for god sake don't talk about increasing budgets for any department unless your answer starts with cuts elsewhere. Talk about where you will cut FIRST. Then talk about where you think money can be better spent. /sigh
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He didn't call for more spending though, he said the State Department shouldn't be spending millions of dollars on idiotic things like charging stations for electric cars and sending comedians to India and instead dedicate those funds for things it should be doing such as guarding embassies and protecting diplomats.
Yes, more protection that he specifically called to be carried out by the military. And even suggested aircraft carriers and other warships should be moved to North Africa. There is no spinning this in a positive manner. Rand isn't suggesting non-intervention. At all.
The epitome of libertarian populismOriginally Posted by Ron Paul
1) He said the Marines who currently guard documents at embassies and consulates should instead be guarding the actual embassies and the diplomats
2) He questioned why our aircraft carriers are not near the places our troops are stationed on the ground in case they need assistance in cases like Benghazi
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