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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    ‘You Have To’: Trump Would Allow Syrian Refugees Into America

    During his Tuesday night appearance on the “O Reilly Factor,” when asked if America should allow refugees fleeing North Africa and the Middle East into America, Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump answered, “You have to.”

    “I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what’s happening, you have to,” Trump told “Factor” host Bill O’Reilly. “This was started by President Obama when he didn’t go in and do the job he should have when he drew the line in the sand, which turned out to be a very artificial line. But you know, it’s a living in hell in Syria. There’s no question about it. They’re living in hell, and something has to be done.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-into-america/

    Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

    Hey @dannno Syria is a "terrorist" country isn't it? So Trump has gone from "No Muslims", to "No Muslims from terrorist countries", to "We gotta help Syrian refugees." But, this isn't a "flip-flop" right?



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    The shenanigans engaged in here to defend Trump are amazing disgusting.
    Fixed it for you.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

    Hey @dannno Syria is a "terrorist" country isn't it? So Trump has gone from "No Muslims", to "No Muslims from terrorist countries", to "We gotta help Syrian refugees." But, this isn't a "flip-flop" right?
    Technically it was: "We gotta help Syrian refugees.", "No Muslims", "No Muslims from terrorist countries", "No Muslims", "No Muslims from terrorist countries, like I've been saying the whole time"
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!

    Hey @dannno Syria is a "terrorist" country isn't it? So Trump has gone from "No Muslims", to "No Muslims from terrorist countries", to "We gotta help Syrian refugees." But, this isn't a "flip-flop" right?
    I suggest that you scrutinize CPUd's propaganda posts before forming an opinion because your timeline is backwards: Trump's pro Syria refugee comment was from September 2015 (which CPUd intentionally neglected to mention), before it became obvious that blocking the so-called "migrants" was a no-brainer.

    See here

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by openfire View Post
    I suggest that you scrutinize CPUd's propaganda posts before forming an opinion because your timeline is backwards: Trump's pro Syria refugee comment was from September 2015 (which CPUd intentionally neglected to mention), before it became obvious that blocking the so-called "migrants" was a no-brainer.

    See here
    Give him a few weeks and he'll be wanting to bring them here again. Not only that, he'll be advocating for taking land and using it for internment camps for them. Much like what he's talking about here, except in the US via eminent domain:



    And if he wants to set up the camps "over there", he would be willing to expand NATO to do it.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    The shenanigans engaged in here to defend demonize Trump are amazing.
    Fixed it the other way.
    -----Peace & Freedom, John Clifton-----
    Blog: https://electclifton.wordpress.com/2...back-backlash/

  9. #37
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  10. #38
    As stated before, despite Trump being bombarded by negative ads and despite Hillary burning through her cash throughout June, Hillary can't pull away from Trump in her best month, or Trump's worst month. General average spread between them remains about 4-5% percent, within or near the margin of error. The most recent single digit polls show the ones indicating a double digit spread are outliers.

    PPP poll, today-- Clinton and Trump are neck and neck (42%-40%):
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politi...ump/index.html

    FOX poll, today-- Clinton 44%, Trump 38%:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...bes-trump.html
    Last edited by Peace&Freedom; 06-29-2016 at 05:11 PM.
    -----Peace & Freedom, John Clifton-----
    Blog: https://electclifton.wordpress.com/2...back-backlash/

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    As stated before, despite Trump being bombarded by negative ads and despite Hillary burning through her cash throughout June, Hillary can't pull away from Trump in her best month, or Trump's worst month. General average spread between them remains about 4-5% percent, within or near the margin of error. The most recent single digit polls show the ones indicating a double digit spread are outliers.

    PPP poll, today-- Clinton and Trump are neck and neck (42%-40%):
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politi...ump/index.html

    FOX poll, today-- Clinton 44%, Trump 38%:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...bes-trump.html
    He is losing badly in 7/7 battleground states. If he can't win in FL, NC, he may as well drop out now.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  12. #40
    polls-only is brutal, polls-plus (below) is more realistic:


    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...forecast/#plus
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He is losing badly in 7/7 battleground states. If he can't win in FL, NC, he may as well drop out now.
    He is currently trailing worst in FL, NC and OH among traditionally understood battleground states (PA is basically blue), the rest averages near or within the margin of error. And Trump is at 33% with latinos, which is higher than the numbers Romney or McCain had for that group. The point remains, given the money Hillary poured out this month that Trump did not answer, all the numbers you cite should have been much worse, and trending to an even larger spread by now. Meaning Trump will be going up from this level in the months to follow.
    -----Peace & Freedom, John Clifton-----
    Blog: https://electclifton.wordpress.com/2...back-backlash/

  15. #42
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    Can't wait until November.
    Its gonna be Great
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  17. #44
    LOOL when you're looking for a winning poll to post, but none to be found:



    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    LOOL when you're looking for a winning poll to post, but none to be found:

    Polls who has time to read polls when theres a squirell over there, and I have to check my facebook, and my email and oh look an ad for cialis.

    Trump says he is going to win, and he is successful so he is way smarter then me so I think the media is lying, the media has every incentive to lie because the global economy is killing the American economy, and thats why China is doing so well, and they are taking all of our jobs. We will bring factorys back to America, because companies will definitely choose factories that states will no doubtedly unionize over robots and $#@!ing slave labor.


    Trump will end this globalization and currency manipulation and take back the power from the free market. He will back America away from the global economy by giving up our seat at the table, and we'll show the whole world whos wrong, the soviets did it, so its gotta work for us. We'll change this power structure of the world so much that there won't be any more bad deals in the future.

    OH did you know that in China it is against the governments censorship to talk about robots taking away human jobs and ultimately their purpose. Don't worry though, CHINA IS TAKING ALL OF OUR FACTORY JOBS.

  19. #46
    Please, please stop believing what polls say. I frankly do not respond to them any more because the sample group and the questions are skewed to bring about one outcome, not a true representation of what people think. It happens on both sides. I got off a lot of mailing lists from so-called Christian groups because their polls were as bad as the establishement left.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Please, please stop believing what polls say. I frankly do not respond to them any more because the sample group and the questions are skewed to bring about one outcome, not a true representation of what people think. It happens on both sides. I got off a lot of mailing lists from so-called Christian groups because their polls were as bad as the establishement left.
    That's what we were telling people coming into the Rand forum for 6 months saying his campaign is dead. Turns out, the polling was correct.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  21. #48
    But voters believe Trump is more honest and trustworthy (45-37 percent) and a stronger leader (49-43 percent).

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-hil...national-race/
    BOWLING GREEN, Kentucky – Washington liberals are trying to push through the so-called DREAM Act, which creates an official path to Democrat voter registration for 2 million college-age illegal immigrants.
    Rand Paul 2010

    Booker T. Washington:
    Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose
    fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherous meant the ruin of your firesides.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by RandallFan View Post
    But voters believe Trump is more honest and trustworthy (45-37 percent) and a stronger leader (49-43 percent).

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-hil...national-race/
    Let's look at some more of those questions:



    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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