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    WASHINGTON (AP) — More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money — either personally or through companies or groups — to the Clinton Foundation. It's an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.

    At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million.
    Over Half Of Hillary's Private Meetings As Secretary Were With Donors Who Paid $156 Million

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...id-156-million
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    Shocked, I tell ya; shocked.
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    LOL Western News Media running out of anti trump stories?

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    I never would have believed the Clintons were crooked...

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    Wow. I wonder what Trump got for his donations to the foundation?

    Which is worse? Selling access or buying it?

    They're all friggin' corrupt as hell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow. I wonder what Trump got for his donations to the foundation?

    Which is worse? Selling access or buying it?

    They're all friggin' corrupt as hell!
    and there is no Santa Claus either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow. I wonder what Trump got for his donations to the foundation?

    Which is worse? Selling access or buying it?

    They're all friggin' corrupt as hell!
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow. I wonder what Trump got for his donations to the foundation?

    Which is worse? Selling access or buying it?

    They're all friggin' corrupt as hell!
    This is why the Trump vs Hillary campaign never made any sense. Its like trying to determine who is worse between the drug dealer and buyer
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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    This is why the Trump vs Hillary campaign never made any sense. Its like trying to determine who is worse between the drug dealer and seller
    Wait, these are bad people??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    Wait, these are bad people??
    Lets just say they are not the kind of people you want hanging around your neighbourhood

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow. I wonder what Trump got for his donations to the foundation?

    Which is worse? Selling access or buying it?

    They're all friggin' corrupt as hell!
    This is why the Trump vs Hillary campaign never made any sense. Its like trying to determine who is worse between the drug dealer and buyer
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    For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
    Had spoiled his nice new rattle.

    Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
    As black as a tar-barrel;
    Which frightened both the heroes so,
    They quite forgot their quarrel.


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    Some people would probably think it was good if more than half the people that Ron conversed with contributed to a cause that he supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow. I wonder what Trump got for his donations to the foundation?

    Which is worse? Selling access or buying it?

    They're all friggin' corrupt as hell!
    Selling is worse. The public employees that our tax dollars pay for have an obligation to the public they are supposed to serve. The buyers don't have an obligation to the taxpayers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Selling is worse. The public employees that our tax dollars pay for have an obligation to the public they are supposed to serve. The buyers don't have an obligation to the taxpayers.
    Yeah. That's like blaming the business man for paying off the Mafia boss for his "protection."

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Yeah. That's like blaming the business man for paying off the Mafia boss for his "protection."
    Or like blaming the the woman for having children so she can collect more welfare. Or voting democrats because they catered to my industry or interest group. If we all like Trump took the easy road or only did what was convenient to us(remember he didn't just pay off the Clintons, he payed off Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, DNC etc) and never made any hard decisions, only god knows we all be in a better situation now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Yeah. That's like blaming the business man for paying off the Mafia boss for his "protection."
    Or blaming a taxpayer for keeping the armed thugs away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Selling is worse. The public employees that our tax dollars pay for have an obligation to the public they are supposed to serve. The buyers don't have an obligation to the taxpayers.
    Not only that, a significant number of these people were representing international interests. This could very easily be defined as treason, depending on what was sold to whom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Or like blaming the the woman for having children so she can collect more welfare. Or voting democrats because they catered to my industry or interest group. If we all like Trump took the easy road or only did what was convenient to us(remember he didn't just pay off the Clintons, he payed off Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, DNC etc) and never made any hard decisions, only god knows we all be in a better situation now.
    Everything in our society is becoming pay to play. License fees, regulations, taxes, excessive educational requirements... Trump knows you are at the mercy of politicians. I suspect his motivation is that his take would increase as president rather than altruistic. But when it comes down to it as a business owner myself, the payer has my sympathies over the payee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Everything in our society is becoming pay to play. License fees, regulations, taxes, excessive educational requirements... Trump knows you are at the mercy of politicians. I suspect his motivation is that his take would increase as president rather than altruistic. But when it comes down to it as a business owner myself, the payer has my sympathies over the payee.
    Spades are cheaper than taxes and more plentiful than tax collectors....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Everything in our society is becoming pay to play. License fees, regulations, taxes, excessive educational requirements... Trump knows you are at the mercy of politicians. I suspect his motivation is that his take would increase as president rather than altruistic. But when it comes down to it as a business owner myself, the payer has my sympathies over the payee.
    Yeah, that's BS. As a business-owner, I get pissed that my competition buys favors and I have to work for it. This is the type of thing that those in the ESTABLISHMENT use to keep out unwanted competition and to keep themselves in the money.

    Hillary and Trump are both part of the establishment system and neither has any interest in ending it. If anyone thinks otherwise, they've been had.
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    If you pay your license fees, taxes, etc., you are basically doing the same thing. The only difference is that extortion is above the table.
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Yeah, that's BS. As a business-owner, I get pissed that my competition buys favors and I have to work for it. This is the type of thing that those in the ESTABLISHMENT use to keep out unwanted competition and to keep themselves in the money.

    Hillary and Trump are both part of the establishment system and neither has any interest in ending it. If anyone thinks otherwise, they've been had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    If you pay your license fees, taxes, etc., you are basically doing the same thing. The only difference is that extortion is above the table.
    I am sorry but that is just not true. Running a business and not donating to The Clinton foundation, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid is not a crime. Thousands of business people run successful businesses without lining the pockets of Killary and her cohorts. Not having a license and practicing a licensed profession will actually land you in jail while being caught red handed bribing one of these officials will also land you in jail.

    Taxes and license fee support the whole system while payouts targets individual bad actors making the system bad and supports them. Trump doesn't have clean hands on this issue, I think he is just as guilty as the people taking bribes



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post

    Taxes and license fee support the whole CORRUPTED system
    . FIFY. Thanks for making my point. I am not directly defending Trump. On the contrary I think he is looking forward to being on the receiving end. However, I think the whole system is corrupted.

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    BTW Jules and Capt. Realize I am aware that I am playing devil's advocate with a small side of hyperbole.

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    Clinton's full State Dept. schedule won't be released until after Election Day

    WASHINGTON – Seven months after a federal judge ordered the State Department to begin releasing monthly batches of the detailed daily schedules showing meetings by Hillary Clinton during her time as secretary of state, the government told The Associated Press it won't finish the job before Election Day.

    The department has so far released about half of the schedules. Its lawyers said in a phone conference with the AP's lawyers that the department now expects to release the last of the detailed schedules around Dec. 30, weeks before the next president is inaugurated.

    The AP's lawyers late Friday formally asked the State Department to hasten that effort so that the department could provide all Clinton's minute-by-minute schedules by Oct. 15. The agency did not immediately respond.

    The schedules drew new attention this week after the AP analyzed the ones released so far. The news agency found that more than half the people outside the government who met or spoke by telephone with Clinton while she was secretary of state had given money — either personally or through companies or groups — to the Clinton Foundation. The AP's analysis focused on people with private interests and excluded her meetings or calls with U.S. federal employees or foreign government representatives.

    The AP's reporting was based on official calendars covering Clinton's entire term plus the more-detailed daily schedules covering roughly half her time as secretary of state. The AP first asked for Clinton's calendars in 2010 and again in 2013. It then sued the State Department in federal court to obtain the detailed schedules, and the department so far has provided about half of them under court order.

    Clinton has said the AP's analysis was flawed because it did not account fully for all meetings and phone calls during her entire term as secretary. She also said the analysis should have included meetings with federal employees and foreign diplomats. The AP said it focused on her meetings with outsiders because those were more discretionary, as Clinton would normally meet with federal officials and foreign officials as part of her job.

    Clinton said she met with people outside government regardless of whether they gave money or charitable commitments to her family's charity.

    "These are people I would be proud to meet with, as any secretary of state would have been proud to meet with, to hear about their work and their insights," Clinton said this week on CNN.

    With the foundation drawing continued attention, Clinton promised Friday to put in place additional safeguards to prevent conflicts of interest with the charity should she win the White House.

    The foundation issue, along with continued focus on her use of a private email server, has dogged Clinton politically throughout the week, drawing strong criticism from opponent Donald Trump.

    Former President Bill Clinton said last week that if she is elected president, the foundation will no longer accept foreign or corporate donations.

    The State Department is now estimating there are about 2,700 pages of schedules left. Under its process, it is reviewing and censoring them page-by-page to remove personal details such as private phone numbers or email addresses. In some cases it has censored names of people who met privately with Clinton or the subjects they discussed.

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    Shocked, I tell ya; shocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow. I wonder what Trump got for his donations to the foundation?

    Which is worse? Selling access or buying it?

    They're all friggin' corrupt as hell!

    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CaptUSA again."
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