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Trump apparently needs the Fed to keep doing what it has been doing:
Trump: U.S. can never default because it prints money
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
Yeah, here ^^^ it is in a nutshell.
One is a psychic who knows the future, the next is expert at obfuscation through condescending bloviation and the third is a (mod edit) who's redefined the word "apparently".
Translation:
"I hate Trump regardless of the facts." Awesome.
For the reading impaired, I'll repeat the question: Who's better, Trump or Hillary? Please, save the "Here's why I hate everyone who isn't me" and answer the $#@!ing question.
Yeah, here it is in a nutshell. If you encounter a critical thnker who examines the evidence instead of clutching to any straw that fits their hope for change dreams no matter how unbelievable, and you can't deny their reasoning, demonize them and call them names.
For the reading impaired, I will repeat it for the umpteenth time--the fact that two best friends with the same agenda say the same things, but one says them in a PC way and the other says them in an un-PC way, does not mean one is better than the other. They both suck loudly enough that there is no point in even trying to rate their suckiness. It's not even a game for academics, like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It's a game for damned fools.
And don't tell me they say different things, because a wall with a 'big, beautiful door' is the same thing as no wall at all, only more expensive.
The answer to your question is, "I don't know, and it doesn't matter."
But since you already admitted that you still think Trump's better even if he's not for auditing the Fed, and you avoided my question, I'll ask again, if he's not for auditing the Fed, then what makes him better?
Q: Who's better, Trump or Hillary?
A: Trump. More interesting, he has better hair.
Actually, he claims he is auditing the Fed, though he seems not to know the Fed is subjected to meaningless, toothless audits now, and he is in no way specific about what his audits would entail. What he is diametrically opposed to is ending the Fed.
So, yeah, what good is he?
"Funnier" is not a synonym for "better".
I'll answer. It depends upon what we consider "better". If we look strictly at what their policy's are on paper then I'd have to go with Trump, but within the context of who will leave the country better off, I'm not so sure, I would have to be psychic to know that. A deep concern that I have with Trump is that he'll further the Bush / Obama war doctrine while compounding it with new population divides to the point where the country will be consumed in domestic and international terrorism / warfare that can help catapult us into WWIII. Conversely, it wouldn't be hard to see Hillary continuing Obama's doctrine of socialism, even kicking it into a higher gear which would likely sink the country financially, cause another great depression, have us default in our international debts leading to global turmoil. I'm not too fond of either of these outcomes, which I see as reasonably possible. Others can disagree, which is fine, but this is my view and why I can't put my name in support of either. I respect others who choose differently.
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Yea, and I like Trump's hair color too, it's more exciting. It makes for better video in sunlight.
I'm not trying to convince anyone else how to vote or whether to vote or not. Others can argue
why it's safer with the status quo and not try to buck the system and therefore say Clinton
is better.
This is why I think Trump is better than Clinton.
The simple reason is Trump offers a better chance of a significant change than Clinton.
Trump is more of a salesman than a statesman. If you look at his comments going back 30 years,
his political opinions have not changed much. He certainly knows a thing or two about sizing up
people and problems. He has a track record of coming in with win-win "deals" on time, under
budget. That compliments his criticisms of status quo government waste; maybe he has solutions.
Trump is obviously bringing up items of interest and concern such as: jobs, economy, radical
ISLAM terrorists (e.g. Florida shooter) and the flood of immigrants seeking the free cheese from
magic government dependency programs ("free" food, healthcare, education, housing, and learn
to speak English etc. in exchange for democratic votes for bigger more intrusive government.)
There is a global one-world-government quest that is well underway that apparently has pretty
tight control over all political parties and world leaders. The fact that Putin and Trump already
respect each other is a good sign for global peace. Trump speaks to and like an average worker.
I'll bet Trump already knows all about business problems (monstrous regulations, wages, unions,
employee costs including their retirement plans and healthcare, etc.) but he does not dare go
into specific plans or go deep into those other "problems" mentioned in the preceding paragraph.
We know the authoritarian instinct to "fix" all those problems through regulation, more laws and
bigger government would be a disaster and if Trump is elected POTUS, the educational experience
for everyone will be priceless even if it is a disaster. His solution talk is 98% BS, but at least he
talks about it. I do not think Clinton can match Trumps level of critical thinking and IQ potential
that could be applied to the POTUS job. The MSM is not talking, investigating or reporting on the
subjects. Trump is already helping reveal the whole smoke and mirrors show. Trump is way ahead
in his observations, diagnostics and he seems wise. He certainly knows how to manipulate
people's emotions and motivate them instinctively as a true leader should be able to do without
coming across as distrustful and conniving like Clinton manages to reveal about herself despite
all the professional writers and personal consultants working on her image 24/7 from behind the
scenes. I think Trump thinks and speaks on his feet better than Clinton can, even with her script.
I'm sure Trump gets "research help" from behind the scenes too, but his results seem better, so far.
It's a great sign that the usual GOP cash donors don't think Trump will sell out to them; Trump might
be telling the truth about making America great again by not bowing to all the special infections
interests hiding in the shadows of government. Clinton seems to take money from the enemy camp
(in return for what?) and spew the same old PC BS. If Clinton is accepting big campaign bucks
from Saudi Arabia, well that sounds a bit too fishy!
Trump might be worse than Hitler, but at least he sounds different so far. He thinks quickly on his feet
and I am hopeful he will adapt to the job and make whatever changes he feels are necessary to
make America great if his first solutions don't work. I don't expect him to try out Liberty first or
possibly ever, but something needs to change from the current glide slope the establishment
has the country (and the world) slipping down on. The office of the president should not be perceived
at is has been creeping towards, and that is dictator of the USA. The other branches of government
will need to pay attention and be ready to act if needed. It might be very educational indeed.
So many are hooked on gov dependency, there may be no easy solution possible at this point.
Maybe the whole thing needs to risk crashing before Constitutionally Limited government can ever
be attempted (again). Trump might help get America there one way (magic?) or another (hard
way) after civil war and economic crash due to switching off socialism and switching on balls-out
Hitleresque authoritarianism/fascism.
If it is going to crash hard, then it's better for Liberty that this is not the 1987 version of Ron Paul
here running against the 2016 Hillary Clinton. Liberty still has a chance to rise up from the ashes
if Freedom is not blamed for the great fall that lead up to WW3+ (or WW4). IMO, it's headed there
all on its own, regardless of this election outcome.
Clinton is not going to change anything or even attempt to try anything that deviates from what
her supporters, campaign donors, advisers and script writers prepare for her read out loud.
Clinton's health looks poor, face slightly bloated; I think it's her liver or a bile problem, but I'm
not a doctor. Even her hair looks tired. Her ideas and creativity are sadly lacking, just like the
rest of the R and D candidates since they all read from the EXACT same status quo script.
Last edited by FindLiberty; 06-17-2016 at 02:39 PM.
I've often wondered how much better then Jesus Trump is.
Yeah. For example, Jesus isn't better because He lies and manipulates us. He isn't expert in why small business and manufacturing is disappearing because He has experience running big casinos. He isn't better because He has cut so many deals with the devil. He isn't better because He'll plunge us forevermore into tyranny, thus affording us a learning opportunity. He isn't better because He's more salesmanship than substance. He isn't better because He won't try liberty first, or possibly ever. He isn't better because He has a bald spot and spends $600 on combovers to hide it.
So, gee, why is He better?
I think we have met the enemy, and it is lowered expectations.
Last edited by acptulsa; 06-17-2016 at 01:51 PM.
Is a $#@! sammitch better with Hellman's or with Duke's?
Answer: It's still a $#@! sammitch. And no amount of either mayonnaise is going to make it taste better or digest any easier.
Hillary is a known quantity. Trump is a enigma. You choose the enigma over the certain disaster.
That depends, do you want another puppet figurehead who will implement the agenda of his/her controllers? If yes, Hillary, if no, Trump.
Alot of good responses imo -
45th President of the United States is going to be the worst President in history at possibly the worst possible time to have the worst President.
We are in deep sheet.
There also seems to be some part of that he doesn't $#@!ing understand.
Of course, that lands him in the majority. Or, it did until this year, when we got presented a pair of criminal clowns as major party candidates--thanks to Clinton's quest to find a ringer who could actually make her look good.
I have to admit, that's one thing that impresses me about Trump. It can't be easy to make that bitch look good.
It's circus. The illusion of choice 2016 is accomplishing its purpose of filling up the big tent
with distracted tax slaves. It's most effective when the crowd is engaged in lively debate!
No, it's most effective when the crowd is engaged in baseless speculation, name-calling, attacking each others' language as indicative of which 'team' they're on, being divided and conquered, and doing anything at all except debating the issues and realizing they have the power to fire both major parties if only they can stop obsessing over the 'horse race' and the polls and vote for someone sane.
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