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    Exclamation FL man -"Hydroxychloroquine saved my life."

    Any pettifogging government $#@!, scared doctor or ambulance chasing lawyer that delays or denies this treatment is guilty of murder.



    Florida man with coronavirus says drug touted by Trump saved his life

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florid...aved-his-life/

    By Tamar Lapin March 22, 2020 | 11:47pm | Updated

    A Florida man diagnosed with coronavirus claims he was saved from certain death by an anti-malaria drug touted as a possible treatment by President Trump.

    Rio Giardinieri, 52, told Los Angeles’ Fox 11 that he struggled with horrendous back pain, headaches, cough and fatigue for five days after catching COVID-19, possibly at a conference in New York.

    Doctors at the Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital in South Florida diagnosed him with the coronavirus and pneumonia and put him on oxygen in the ICU, he told the outlet.

    After more than a week, doctors told him there was nothing more they could do and, on Friday evening, Giardinieri said goodbye to his wife and three children.

    “I was at the point where I was barely able to speak and breathing was very challenging,” Giardinieri said. “I really thought my end was there.”

    Then a friend sent him a recent article about hydroxychloroquine, a prescription drug that’s been used to treat malaria for decades and auto-immune diseases like lupus.

    Overseas studies have found it to be promising as a treatment for COVID-19, though it hasn’t been approved by health officials.

    Trump last week said he was instructing the FDA to fast-track testing of hydroxychloroquine and a related drug, chloroquine, as treatment for COVID-19.

    Giardinieri said he contacted an infectious disease doctor about the drug.

    “He gave me all the reasons why I would probably not want to try it because there are no trials, there’s no testing, it was not something that was approved,” said Giardinieri.

    “And I said, ‘Look, I don’t know if I’m going to make it until the morning,’ because at that point I really thought I was coming to the end because I couldn’t breathe anymore,” Giardinieri continued.

    “He agreed and authorized the use of it and 30 minutes later the nurse gave it to me.”

    After about an hour on an IV with the medicine, Giardinieri said, it felt like his heart was beating out of his chest and, about two hours later, he had another episode where he couldn’t breathe.

    He says he was given Benadryl and some other drugs and that when he woke up around 4:45 a.m., it was “like nothing ever happened.”

    He’s since had no fever or pain and can breathe again. Giardinieri said doctors believe the episodes he experienced were not a reaction to the medicine but his body fighting off the virus.

    Giardinieri, the vice president of a company that manufactures cooking equipment for high-end restaurants in Los Angeles, said he had three doses of the medicine Saturday and is hoping to be discharged from the hospital in five days.

    “To me, there was no doubt in mind that I wouldn’t make it until morning,” said Giardinieri. “So to me, the drug saved my life.”
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    Seems to be the most promising treatment to date.
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    https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...iclekey=229156

    MARCH 22, 2020 -- Could the old generic malaria drug hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil, Sanofi-Aventis, among others), which is also used for the treatment of rheumatic disease, be an essential treatment for COVID-19?

    This hypothesis, put forward by some, including Professor Didier Raoult of the IHU Méditerranée Infection in Marseille, was dismissed by other eminent infectious disease specialists and dismissed as fake news recently by the Ministry of Health.
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    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    They are discussing it on Fox Business as I type. They say that early trials are very promising, when combined with an antibiotic.

    They do recommend other treatments before resorting to the hydroxychloroquine.

    They also say Remdesivir is very promising.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    This hypothesis, put forward by some, including Professor Didier Raoult of the IHU Méditerranée Infection in Marseille, was dismissed by other eminent infectious disease specialists and dismissed as fake news recently by the Ministry of Health.
    And I don't know if this is the case here...but anybody in a position of authority that is foot dragging, mumbling into their beards or pooh-poohing and harrumphing about safety or "what do laymen know" that results in what could be life saving medications being withheld from people who then die...if said harrumphing was caused by "Orange Man Bad" syndrome, they should be summarily shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Seems to be the most promising treatment to date.
    Yeah there's lots of threads here on it so its just more than anecdotal and certainly not a coincidence.

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    Start drinking some tonic water!
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Start drinking some tonic water!
    From what I've read. You would have to drink two liters a day to get as much quinine as one pill, given to help prevent malaria.
    We would probably have trouble finding enough of it, especially after people find out it helps.

    Ahhh, here you can get it as a concentrate in 3 gallon bags.
    Last edited by Dr.3D; 03-23-2020 at 04:38 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    From what I've read. You would have to drink two liters a day to get as much quinine as one pill, given to help prevent malaria.
    We would probably have trouble finding enough of it, especially after people find out it helps.

    Ahhh, here you can get it as a concentrate in 3 gallon bags.
    Thanks for the link. Add some gin to it, too.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Start drinking some tonic water!
    No. This is not a time to preach "all natural"

    You will absolutely overdose before you have any anti viral effect with tonic water.

    quinine chloroquine and hydroxychoroquine are all indeed related; each deriving from cinchona bark

    the dose of quinine required to attack virus will certainly kill you.

    the dose of chloroquine to attack virus will nearly kill you.

    the dose of hyroxychloroquine to attack virus should only be administered by a competent "pharmacist" because there is a thin therapeutic window before it kills you as well.
    Last edited by presence; 03-23-2020 at 09:57 PM.

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    Dude who died in Arizona took aquarium cleaning product chloroquine phosphate

    https://news.trust.org/item/20200323225613-cmq3v

    Reuters website is trust.org

    Get vitamin c people... zero side effects other than you will eventually titrate to bowel tolerance

    Interestingly, the max amount of vitamin c you can tolerate increases the sicker you are as your body burns vitamin c faster.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...dose-Vitamin-C

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    Some ex military I’ve talked to say this malaria treatments are pretty hard on the body
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined



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