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    First on CNN: Cheney says he will support Trump

    Washington (CNN)Former Vice President Dick Cheney will support Donald Trump, he told CNN Friday, an important move as the presumptive Republican nominee is encountering intense resistance from senior members of his own party.

    Cheney told CNN Special Correspondent Jamie Gangel that he has always supported the GOP nominee and will do so this year as well.

    The announcement makes Cheney one of the few Republican Party elders to announce their support of Trump and comes a day after House Speaker Paul Ryan told CNN he is "just not ready" to back Trump.
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/politi...-donald-trump/
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by younglibertarian View Post
    I heard rumors that he wants Rudy Giuliani (gasp!) in charge of Homeland security.
    Yes, Mayor of 9/11 is currently rewriting his anti-terrorism policy while Governor of 9/11 will head the transition team to nowhere.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Because he beat them? Because they were told to, to maintain his illusion and allow him to siphon the anti-establishment vote harmlessly away? Because they agree that it's Hilldog's turn, and they know he can do a better job of throwing the election to her, so they're pretending? Because no one will point cameras at them unless they buck Reince Priebus, and they're both attention whores? Because they gambled at one of his casinos once, and lost? Because they wish their own hair was orange?

    Why don't you ask them? And don't say it's because you think you won't get an honest answer. You're taking their word for it that they hate him.
    They hate him because it was supposed to be Jeb's turn to lose against a Democrat.
    If you are right, Trump will implement neocon policies right? I don't understand your line of thought. Donald Trump a Neocon plant? Imagine him winning? I would like to know how that Lightning Rod will contain the anger when Trump will not build the wall. When Trump will not do what he promised to do. Bet ya next 4 years, you will get even worse than Trump. And it's not going to be Rand for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    They hate him because it was supposed to be Jeb's turn to lose against a Democrat.
    If you are right, Trump will implement neocon policies right? I don't understand your line of thought. Donald Trump a Neocon plant? Imagine him winning? I would like to know how that Lightning Rod will contain the anger when Trump will not build the wall. When Trump will not do what he promised to do. Bet ya next 4 years, you will get even worse than Trump. And it's not going to be Rand for sure.
    And how have they been containing the prog anger over the fact that their "Messiah" refused to end one single war, and deposed a couple more dictators since he made all the promises he broke?

    And I'm not sure what we'll get the next four years. Clinton is not winning over Sanders people, and is actively pissing off swing states by dissing on coal, preventing her from replacing them with anyone else. If Republicans continue to misplace their faith in men, instead of God, then the third party coalition is liable to be more full of lefties than righties.

    Anyone could win this thing. If enough Republicans wise up, even the LP could win this thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  7. #35
    Why does Rand Paul and Alex Jones endorse him?

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    Anyone could win this thing. If enough Republicans wise up, even the LP could win this thing.
    That'd be okay with me...

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Why does Rand Paul and Alex Jones endorse him?
    Rand hasn't officially endorsed Trump, yet.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    That'd be okay with me...
    Me, as well.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Why does Rand Paul and Alex Jones endorse him?
    Rand Paul made a pledge to support the Republican nominee. He would have endorsed Jeb Bush; if he won. However, I do not think that you would have supported him for that decision. While, Alex Jones is man without any principles.

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    Whoa, Trump should be sure to turn down Cheney's upcoming invitation to go quail hunting.



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    This just shows how meaningless "conservative" is now. Notice how they define it so that conservative = bigger government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Why does Rand Paul... endorse him?
    Does he? Post the vid.

    You can't do it, can you? All you can do is post his pledge to endorse the nominee, when there is one. For all you know, Trump will keel over from a heart attack and die before the convention.

    If that happens, those who said he will endorse Trump will be liars. But, wince they don't expect Trump to die, they will have an excuse. Unlike the liars who say Paul has alredy endorsed Trump.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    This just shows how meaningless "conservative" is now. Notice how they define it so that conservative = bigger government.
    Lew Rockwell once knew this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Rand Paul made a pledge to support the Republican nominee. He would have endorsed Jeb Bush; if he won. However, I do not think that you would have supported him for that decision. While, Alex Jones is man without any principles.
    Alex Jones is against New World Order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    Alex Jones is against New World Order.
    I heard that he was control opposition.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Lew Rockwell once knew this.
    Wonder what happened........
    The most important element of a free society, where individual rights are held in the highest esteem, is the rejection of the initiation of violence.

    RON PAUL







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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    I heard that he was control opposition.
    What do you intend to get out not supporting Donald Trump? All you are doing is appearing to try to convince people to vote for the Democrats. When you do nothing but attack Donald Trump all you end up doing is getting people to vote for Hillary. That would mean 5 liberal justices over the next few years and guaranteed War mongering. There might be War mongering with Donald Trump but there might not be.

    I'm not against libertarian causes at the local and state level. Cliven Bundy needs to be aquitted and I haven't forgotten that. But I think it would make things easier with Hillary in the White House. By not supporting Donald Trump you are making it harder for Rand Paul to be picked as VP.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    What do you intend to get out not supporting Donald Trump? All you are doing is appearing to try to convince people to vote for the Democrats. When you do nothing but attack Donald Trump all you end up doing is getting people to vote for Hillary. That would mean 5 liberal justices over the next few years and guaranteed War mongering. There might be War mongering with Donald Trump but there might not be.

    I'm not against libertarian causes at the local and state level. Cliven Bundy needs to be aquitted and I haven't forgotten that. But I think it would make things easier with Hillary in the White House. By not supporting Donald Trump you are making it harder for Rand Paul to be picked as VP.
    I've looked through the RPF, we have been bashing and not supporting Trump ever since he did that to us in 2011. This is a liberty thing, not a liberal thing.

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    Those are conservative issues if you define conservative as protectionist. Free trade, managed trade, trade agreements did not destroy manufacturing. Nothing destroyed manufacturing.

    From Greg Mankiw last weekend, you know, a right wing economist:
    When do you think manufacturing output reached its peak in the United States? The answer: right now. Manufacturing output achieved a record high in the most recent quarter of data. The nation’s manufacturers are now producing 47 percent more than they did 20 years ago.

    What has declined is manufacturing employment, which is 29 percent lower than it was 20 years ago. Producing more output with fewer workers is called higher productivity, which in turn is driven by technological innovation. This change is hard on displaced workers, but it is good for the economy overall. Rising living standards are possible only if productivity increases.
    And a survey of economists. "For instance: 93% — weighted by confidence — think “major trade deals have benefited most Americans.”
    http://www.aei.org/publication/econo...list-policies/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    What do you intend to get out not supporting Donald Trump? All you are doing is appearing to try to convince people to vote for the Democrats. When you do nothing but attack Donald Trump all you end up doing is getting people to vote for Hillary.
    Why are you supporting that false dichotomy? The only way anyone knows I'm not supporting Trump is by listening to me support the Libertarian Party. How delusional in their attachment to the One Party Two Divisions System would someone have to be to think that anything but a rejection of both criminals? Why do you think a third party wouldn't attract more anti-war Democrats than Lockstep-marching Republicans?

    What part of that alleged argument isn't silly?

    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    By not supporting Donald Trump you are making it harder for Rand Paul to be picked as VP.
    LOL

    That's funny. That is just seriously funny.

    By not buying a 1957 DeSoto with tailfins you're making it harder to fly your car to California at 30,000 feet altitude, too.

    Pie in the sky with no reason why and...



    What do you have that doesn't insult our intelligence?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 05-12-2016 at 04:32 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    What do you intend to get out not supporting Donald Trump? All you are doing is appearing to try to convince people to vote for the Democrats. When you do nothing but attack Donald Trump all you end up doing is getting people to vote for Hillary. That would mean 5 liberal justices over the next few years and guaranteed War mongering. There might be War mongering with Donald Trump but there might not be.

    I'm not against libertarian causes at the local and state level. Cliven Bundy needs to be aquitted and I haven't forgotten that. But I think it would make things easier with Hillary in the White House. By not supporting Donald Trump you are making it harder for Rand Paul to be picked as VP.
    Rand is NOT going to be Trump's V.P. It's simply NOT going to happen. Rand will NOT tie himself to Trump's train wreck. Please quit trying to spread this unsubstantiated rumor.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I've looked through the RPF, we have been bashing and not supporting Trump ever since he did that to us in 2011. This is a liberty thing, not a liberal thing.
    Yup and what I mean by Jones being control oppositions is because he has ties to Roger Stone, Nixon dirty trickster. This does not create the idea of trusting him.Also, it was Stone who put Gary Johnson on 2012 LP nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Yup and what I mean by Jones being control oppositions is because he has ties to Roger Stone, Nixon dirty trickster. This does not create the idea of trusting him.Also, it was Stone who put Gary Johnson on 2012 LP nomination.
    It was Roger Stone who wrote the book about LBJ killing JFK. He also wrote a book about the Bush Crime family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    It was Roger Stone who wrote the book about LBJ killing JFK. He also wrote a book about the Bush Crime family.
    Roger Stone used to lobby for CIA backed dictators and corrupt American politicans. Roger Stone has played a role in destroying grassroots campaigns, ask Justin Raimondo.
    Last edited by Wilf; 05-12-2016 at 04:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Roger Stone used to lobby for CIA back dictators and corrupt American politicans. Roger Stone has played a role in destroying grassroots campaigns, ask Justin Raimondo.
    So you don't support Gary Johnson in 2012 but you do now?



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    I don't say I would vot in this election but in my mind Donald Trump is clearly less evil than Hillary.
    The less evil of the evils is still evil.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    So you don't support Gary Johnson in 2012 but you do now?
    Flip it around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    Roger Stone used to lobby for CIA backed dictators and corrupt American politicans. Roger Stone has played a role in destroying grassroots campaigns, ask Justin Raimondo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf View Post
    The less evil of the evils is still evil.
    You're right. Why am I wasting my time with this $#@!?

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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