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    Trump Monday Prime Time Address: Afghan Strategy

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-...day-1503262674

    President Donald Trump will give a nationally televised address Monday night to unveil his strategy for the long-running war in Afghanistan, the White House said, a plan expected to include sending as many as 4,000 more troops to the country.

    He’ll deliver the prime-time speech from Fort Myer in Arlington, Va., using the same sort of high-profile stage that his predecessor, Barack Obama, employed in laying out a new approach to the war in 2009. Mr. Obama delivered his speech before a national television audience at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., promising at the time to “bring this war to a successful conclusion.”



    I'm sure I'll be disappointed.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    This is all Ivanka's fault.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Wake me when the rumors stop and let me know what he says.
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    is this the official thread tho?

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    Let's get 4000 more troops in the meat grinder. 36D chess.

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    Can we get a preview @dannno of the Trumpsplanation for expanding the war?

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    Lemme guess, the generals asked for 5,000.

    Ready the peace prize, we gots a winner.
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    I'll take my cue to be upset about more foreign intervention when ANTIFA does.



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    Quote Originally Posted by milgram View Post



    Let's hope that is what he says now.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    and suddenly...
    Gen. Kelly waved his magic wand... and.....
    there were...
    no
    more
    leaks.

    (usually we'd have the full text and cliff notes by now.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    and suddenly...
    Gen. Kelly waved his magic wand... and.....
    there were...
    no
    more
    leaks.

    (usually we'd have the full text and cliff notes by now.)
    Leaks are that he will probably be asking for another 4,000 more troops (about a 50% increase from the current 8,300) and ask for more help from other countries like Pakistan.

    Otherwise, not much real change in policy there is expected. Trying to divert attention from racism issues and ouster of Steve Bannon.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.46691f7fc6c3

    Although he may send a few thousand more troops, there are no signs of a major shift in strategy.

    Trump’s announcement caps months of debate that illustrated a basic problem in Trump’s Afghanistan decision: As a candidate he criticized the war and said the U.S. should quickly pull out, but he also campaigned on a vow to start winning wars. Exiting now, with the Taliban resurgent, would be impossible to sell as victory.

    “I think there’s a relative certainty that the Afghan government would eventually fall,” says Mark Jacobson, an Army veteran and NATO’s former deputy representative in Kabul.

    And while Trump has pledged to put “America First,” his national security advisers have warned that the Afghan forces are still far too weak to succeed without help. That is especially important as the Taliban advance and a squeezed Islamic State group looks for new havens beyond Syria and Iraq.

    Even now, Afghan’s government controls just half the country.

    Wary that the president is prone to last-minute decisions, officials at the White House, Pentagon and State Department remained tight-lipped about the plan ahead of Trump’s 9 p.m. EDT televised address from Army’s Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall.

    But early statements from advisers and military officials suggested Trump had lined up behind a plan the Pentagon put forward earlier this year, involving sending close to 4,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan to boost the roughly 8,400 there now. At its peak, the U.S. had roughly 100,000 forces there, under the Obama administration in 2010-2011.

    The Pentagon does not claim the troop increase will end the conflict, but military officials maintain it could help stabilize the Afghan government and break a stalemate with the Taliban.
    Plus keep in mind he has already dropped the largest conventional weapon ever used in war on Afghanistan. He isn't going to be calling the troops home. 4,000 troops will not be enough to change anything in Afghanistan- it will continue to grind along very slowly. Could be another 16 years.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-21-2017 at 06:27 PM.

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    cheetohs at the ready? aye captain.


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    Ladies and gentlemen, the Teleprompter of the United States of America.

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    In talking about coming together, overcoming divisions, yada yada, he's using the military as a model of "perfect cohesion."

    ...a bit odd that, to compare a society to an army.

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    lol

    He got the briefing, it's all different now.
    Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is kept safe. Proverbs 29:25
    "I think the propaganda machine is the biggest problem that we face today in trying to get the truth out to people."
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  20. #17
    Now he's building up the justification for flip-flopping on pulling out...

    ...."things look different from behind the desk in the oval office" (paraphrase)


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    Lol, now that he's pres it's all different.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Channeling George W. Bush.
    "The Patriarch"

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    Evil doers...yada yada yada
    "The Patriarch"

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    Who is this orange neocon on my television?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Now he's citing the "premature withdrawal" from Iraq as a reason to not make the same "mistake" in Afghanistan...

    ...it was that "premature withdrawal" which generated ISIS, doncha know (not removing Saddam or arming jihadis in Syria, of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Who is this orange neocon on my television?
    I don't know, but I'm done. I have heard this song before.
    "The Patriarch"

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    (he led in by saying the US should not be involved in state building).

    1) US must seek "honorable and durable outcome". US deserves a victory.
    2) Consequences of a quick exit predictable and unacceptable. Would leave "terrorist vacuum." (so would removing Assad in Syria- my note)
    3) Security threats the US faces in Afghanistan are significant.

    War not ending anytime soon. Then he starts talking like George W. Bush. US should be world's policeman.

    Policy change based on conditions on the field, not time. Won't say how many troops. "America's enemies must not know our plans. They must not know when we will attack, but attack we will!"

    "We are not nation building- we are killing terrorists!"
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 08-21-2017 at 07:17 PM.



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    If 'determined to kill women and children' is the definition of terrorist, then 'stripping terrorists of their territory' is going to cost him a lot of hotels and golf courses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    "A core pillar of our new strategy is a shift away from a time based approach" (paraphrase)

    i.e. we'll be there forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Ladies and gentlemen, the Teleprompter of the United States of America.
    lol I can't rep anyone yet, can someone help me out?

    1) There is no victory for an endless war...
    2) No, 9/11 was NOT planned in Afghanistan, and the Taliban did NOT aid Al-Qaeda!
    3) So gtfo, dummy!
    Last edited by Raginfridus; 08-21-2017 at 07:18 PM.

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    Total war in the Graveyard of Empires so Russia can't have pipelines and the CIA can control the poppies.

    Get ready to be further impoverished.

    Oh, great. Pakistan now. Did they close their Rothschild Central Bank (TM)?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...

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    Talking about working with Pakistan to eliminate the safe-haven...

    ...Gee whiz, why didn't anyone think of that before?

    [insert video montage of Bush/Obama saying the same thing 50 times]

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    so much winning, we're gonna get tired of winning.

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