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Thread: Border Patrol Checkpoint Refusal; Forfeiting the Bill of Rights

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    Border Patrol Checkpoint Refusal; Forfeiting the Bill of Rights

    Roughly 65-70% of the ENTIRE United States population lives within the 100 mile “Constitution Free Zone”. What better way to CONDITION and CONTROL the majority of the population to forfeit our Bill of Rights than to conveniently use immigrants as pawns?

    They say “they hate us for our freedoms”. How can foreigners hate us for our freedoms when it is this very government that CREATES the conditions and sets up these “Constitution Free Zones”, while Americans WILLINGLY forfeit our very Bill of Rights?

    Government ALWAYS has an excuse why we must FORFEIT our Rights. They claim that we must fight them “over there” in order to “protect our freedoms here”. While at the same time implement TSA, NSA, DHS and other agencies that are REPUGNANT to the Bill of Rights. How are ANY of our Rights being “protected” when we are required by government to FORFEIT them?

    I travel abroad more the average person. Many of the TSA and Border Agents that I personally run into are not multi-generational Americans. It is this very government who hires people who do not understand, and totally disregards, the Law of the Land, while many Americans, Republicans included, believe that we must SUPPORT our government to hire MORE of these agents in order to “protect our freedoms”.

    Furthermore, it is not happening only at the border. It is happening 30 miles, 75 miles, the next state over, away from the border.

    This is a viscous cycle, folks. 2 famous quotes are being forgotten, and/or ignored:

    "Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither."

    "Give me liberty, or give me death!"


    It is time to shut these 3 letter orgs down and start addressing the actual root of the problems and apply the actual solutions. Band-aid approaches NEVER work, not even temporarily.

    As it stands, the new, massive, 2 Year Budget Deal was just signed, not vetoed, which INCREASES military spending, among other things. This hires MORE government, not less, and lines the pockets of the lobbyists/corporations who are profiting by our continuing loss of freedoms.


    The following video should infuriate EVERY American who VALUES our Bill of Rights.


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    We gotta give up some liberty, for our protection comrade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marenco View Post
    We gotta give up some liberty, for our protection comrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marenco View Post
    We gotta give up some liberty, for our protection comrade
    As long as the border is left wide open this will continue to spread.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marenco View Post
    We gotta give up some liberty, for our protection comrade
    Sorry, but no, friend. I value my Individuality, my Private Property, and my Natural Born Rights. I will in no way, shape or form turn "nationalists" and give up ANY of my freedoms and Rights for the very government which creates the conditions in the first place.

    Have you read my sig?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    As long as the border is left wide open this will continue to spread.
    Wrong. As long as your government creates the very conditions and continues to give them aid and a comfortable cozy bed... you are fighting an endless battle. Unless that it your very intent to strip me/us of my/our RIGHTS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Wrong. As long as your government creates the very conditions and continues to give them aid and a comfortable cozy bed... you are fighting an endless battle. Unless that it your very intent to strip me/us of my/our RIGHTS.
    Prosperity is the only incentive they need and people will always object to invaders who come and impose their anti-liberty culture on us.

    We must solve the problem from both ends.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post




    I watched the entire video. That guy was great. Thanks for posting and + rep.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    I laugh every time I watch this.




    Passenger [to "border" guard]: You got an ID on you?

    Border Guard: Do you?

    Passenger: Where you been today?





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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Prosperity is the only incentive they need and people will always object to invaders who come and impose their anti-liberty culture on us.

    We must solve the problem from both ends.
    Building personal wealth, preserving Private Property, honoring, protecting and defending our very Bill of Rights, is how we preserve our prosperity - NOT by sacrificing liberty and funding the government and its welfare programs.
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    More hilarity!


    4409 -- Illegal Alien at Checkpoint tries to steal my Camera!




    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Building personal wealth, preserving Private Property, honoring, protecting and defending our very Bill of Rights, is how we preserve our prosperity - NOT by sacrificing liberty and funding the government and its welfare programs.
    And we must keep out those who would come here and destroy what we build.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    I laugh every time I watch this.




    Passenger [to "border" guard]: You got an ID on you?

    Border Guard: Do you?

    Passenger: Where you been today?






    Saweeeet! That's about the same way I approach those idiots. Though, when I went to Canada, they forced me out and stripped searched my car - all because of a minor traffic ticket that I had a couple of years ago back in the states, for all reasons.
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    Las Vegas Roadblock Refusal



    Pig: Uh, then, I'm gonna arrest you.

    Driver: For what?

    Pig: Uh, for--uh--for resisting. And obstructing.

    Driver: I'm not obstructing anything.






    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Las Vegas Roadblock Refusal



    Pig: Uh, then, I'm gonna arrest you.

    Driver: For what?

    Pig: Uh, for--uh--for resisting. And obstructing.

    Driver: I'm not obstructing anything.

    "Consensual" checkpoint? LOL

    Kudos to that dude!

    There was a time before the '16 election when this kind of thing was gaining steam. Unfortunately it is going by the way-side.

    + REP keep 'em coming!
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    I wrote an article after reading this GAO report on roadblocks AT the border versus roadblocks INSIDE the border. It's a little older, but they're prolly still as incompetent.



    Here's an excerpt:


    Checkpoints INSIDE the US border are ineffective and a waste of resources. Consider these 2008 numbers from the Border Patrol itself:

    TUCSON SECTOR:

    International (Mexican) Border Interdictions=320,000; Number of interdictions per agent=116
    Non-border (inside U.S.)* Interdictions=1,800; Number of interdictions per agent=8


    ALL SECTORS:

    International Border Interdictions=704,000
    Non-border (inside U.S.) Interdictions=17,000

    The 17,000 figure represents 2.4% of interdictions, but it took 4% of agents to accomplish this goal.




    It’s no surprise that interdictions on the actual border are 14 times more effective than checkpoints 100 miles inside the US border. If you wonder why there is so much illegal activity in the U.S., then just consider this statement made by the GAO’s Richard Stana. He said, “The federal role is to detect and apprehend 30% of major illegal activity [at the border].” If my math is right, that would mean that the federal government, by design, concedes that 70% of illegal activity will make it across the border.

    It seems to me that the more effective technique should be used, rather than agents interacting with law-abiding people who have not even left the country.

    Source:
    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09824.pdf
    Report number 09-824, August 2009
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    "... keep 'em coming!
    Okay, here's one more.

    Arizona resident Terry Bressi schools a porker rookie border guard. Watch as she gets flustered.

    I used to be in contact with Terry and talked with him by phone a couple of times. All of this was the result of him filing a lawsuit against an illegal stop. It was Terry vs the border guards and the Injun tribe that stopped him.

    The government drew out the case for years, and Terry finally settled for 210K. He really wanted to win the case against them, but they had the ability to stonewall forever.



    Another one for the Don't Talk to the Police file:



    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Am I being detained?

    Am I being detained?

    AM I BEING DETAINED?



    AM I BEING DETAINED?




    LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Okay, here's one more.

    Arizona resident Terry Bressi schools a porker rookie border guard. Watch as she gets flustered.

    I used to be in contact with Terry and talked with him by phone a couple of times. All of this was the result of him filing a lawsuit against an illegal stop. It was Terry vs the border guards and the Injun tribe that stopped him.

    The government drew out the case for years, and Terry finally settled for 210K. He really wanted to win the case against them, but they had the ability to stonewall forever.

    Another one for the Don't Talk to the Police file:
    I remember that one well, I used to play that at the meetings I attended to raise awareness.

    They all think they are above the law, and the sad thing is, many Americans fall for that puke. THAT is why we are sinking into tyranny.

    I'll bet that bitch would give the nazi salute if the instruction booklet told her to
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