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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Yawn..... are we done yet?
    We were done before you even started. You're literally the least interesting "member" here; and that word is in quotes because you're not a Ron-Paulian at all... but of course you know that. You're just a Trump-troll. And you're boring. And wrong, most of the time. So frequently, in fact, that you're posts are worth ignoring.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    These verses are where you find God's sanction for the State? Really?

    You seem to know the Bible decently well... is it necessary for me to cite where God sanctions the individual? Or are you some kind of Christian Socialist? :lol:
    GOD sanctions both, they each have their place.
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  5. #33
    Time to get this thread back on track:

    Tennessee Bill Would Create Second Amendment Sanctuary

    A bill pending in the Tennessee State House of Representatives would forbid funds from the state being used to enforce federal restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms.
    Proposed as an amendment to current state law, the legislation (House Bill 1407) “prohibits the expenditure of state or local funds or employees to implement, regulate, or enforce any federal law or executive order regulating the ownership or possession of firearms or firearm ammunition regardless of whether the expenditure of funds or use of employees would violate a state law or the state constitution.”
    That’s the sort of next-level legislative levee against federal infringement on the Second Amendment that we need.

    If state lawmakers can be counted on to approve this amendment, then laws passed over the past couple of years would go into effect and essentially turn Tennessee into a sanctuary for gun owners, users, and manufacturers.
    Particularly praiseworthy is the fact that the proposed statute similarly prohibits state agents, funds, and other resources from contributing to the carrying out of any aspect of an international treaty or agreement that would impede the right of Americans to keep and bear arms, as protected by the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ment-sanctuary
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    We were done before you even started. You're literally the least interesting "member" here; and that word is in quotes because you're not a Ron-Paulian at all... but of course you know that. You're just a Trump-troll. And you're boring. And wrong, most of the time. So frequently, in fact, that you're posts are worth ignoring.
    Now you really hurt me.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Now you really hurt me.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    GOD sanctions both, they each have their place.
    Uh huh...

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    We were done before you even started. You're literally the least interesting "member" here; and that word is in quotes because you're not a Ron-Paulian at all... but of course you know that. You're just a Trump-troll. And you're boring. And wrong, most of the time. So frequently, in fact, that you're posts are worth ignoring.

    Way too many of that sort around here nowadays. The inevitable result of focusing on winning elections over advancing principles.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Courts have ruled an awful lot of garbage, does Dred Scott ring a bell?
    Cool; so do we all just have to come to you to find out which court rulings are garbage and which are correct?

    If "yeah well but those decisions that I don't like is garbage and so everyone should ignore them" is an argument, that applies equally well to court rulings on immigration as it does on gun control.
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Cool; so do we all just have to come to you to find out which court rulings are garbage and which are correct?

    If "yeah well but those decisions that I don't like is garbage and so everyone should ignore them" is an argument, that applies equally well to court rulings on immigration as it does on gun control.
    You could try reading the Constitution and then you would see that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed while invasion/immigration is not listed as a right at all.
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Courts have ruled an awful lot of garbage, does Dred Scott ring a bell?
    That example always seems to shut up the leftists here.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    That example always seems to shut up the leftists here.
    But not The Count, he has no shame, after all vampires don't have to look at themselves in the mirror when they shave.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Cool; so do we all just have to come to you to find out which court rulings are garbage and which are correct?

    If "yeah well but those decisions that I don't like is garbage and so everyone should ignore them" is an argument, that applies equally well to court rulings on immigration as it does on gun control.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Cool;
    Even cooler,,
    http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm
    As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197).



    “An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

    “Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306.

    How can one properly resist an illegal arrest if he is handicapped by laws that favor the attacker?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You could try reading the Constitution and then you would see that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed while invasion/immigration is not listed as a right at all.
    We've been over that before but you just conveniently forget those threads every time.


    Also, once again, the whole sanctuary city thing has nothing to do with the legality of illegal immigrants and everything to do with the legality of local government refusing to cooperate with voluntary government programs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  17. #44
    This will go nowhere unfortunately. The Senate Sponsor, Mae Beavers, is now running for Governor and no longer in the state Senate. If you look at the legislative page for the bill you'll discover it was taken off notice meaning it is now dead in the house.

    Senator Beavers did pass the TN Firearms Freedom Act a few years ago. In 2013 she tried to add some enforcement language (teeth) to the bill but sadly the Republican establishment killed it. I can provide video of this 3-ringed circus as it was one of the most ridiculous hearings they have seen in TN for some time.

    Montana has a bill that was passed in to law too if I remember.
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  18. #45
    Good.

    The more the states push back against the feds, for whatever reason, the better.

    Brings us one day closer to secession and separation.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Montana has a bill that was passed in to law too if I remember.
    I thought so too,
    But reading the Montana Laws, they still recognize federally prohibited persons.

    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  20. #47
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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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