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If it gets to the top of the range I will take 2/3rds off and then see how it acts. So 14ish.
I used GBTC because I just liked the looks of it better on the chart. Very unscientific. It is also trading at a big discount to the the bitcoin it holds. I would never trade the actual Bitcoin. The few times I have traded something other than GBTC I have used the futures.
Edit July 23rd. I sold a third around the close of 7/15 and most of the rest on the open the next day with a nub end sold into the 15s. Still in a major downtrend. Would like to see it hold higher lows and firm up.
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MAJOR change in character in Bitcoin overnight. It is at $21k. Big hold of 20k. Seems like the kind of thing that can have some follow through.
Any one here going to admit to holding some heavy, heavy bags now that the ponzi is starting to collapse?
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"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28
OK, carry on then. One of the biggest global (if not the biggest, depending who you ask) AUM crypto firm has been exposed as an insolvent ponzi and has filed bankruptcy, with Congress now clamoring to pull Bankman-Fried into hearings about regulation....but nope, no collapse underway at all. Move along, nothing to see.
Gee, you think it could be all controlled and manipulated?BTW, gold also feels pegged at $1,700ish. Not quite as long as BTC, but the price definitely does not seem organic to me.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Do you understand the difference between an exchange and the blockchain? Every exchange can collapse and if you hold your own Bitcoin, it won't affect you except that it might make it more difficult to convert Bitcoin into USD (which they're already making as difficult as possible, anyway).
In case you haven't noticed, Bitcoin isn't trying to be compatible with USD. Bitcoin is an entirely separate monetary regime, full-stop.
If you want to play the black-pill gambit, suit yourself. The Abyss is truly bottomless. There's this thing called "faith" and you need at least a mustard-seed's worth to get into heaven. I don't know what specific tools God is going to use to destroy this world order. Bitcoin may be one of them, or it may not be. All I know for sure is that he's about to destroy this world-order, and what's on the other side is the thing that all men are truly seeking ... Paradise. All the usual suspects hate Bitcoin with the flaming fury of a billion suns. So, for now, Bitcoin must be doing something right...Gee, you think it could be all controlled and manipulated?
Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28
I don't care if it's blockchain or smoke signal based. A ponzi is a ponzi and they all collapse eventually when the greater fool bagholders dry up. I understand quite well that the blockchain is just a string of numbers and has no inherent value except as a new kind of accounting ledger gimmick, brought to us by the usual accounting-gimmick suspects. It has no monetary value unto itself and therefore the numbers on your little USB wallet thingie have no inherent value either. It has the same inherent value as your neighbor's dick pic on a USB stick does.
Yeah yeah....XYZ hates it so it must be great. That schtick is getting pretty tired lately.All the usual suspects hate Bitcoin with the flaming fury of a billion suns. So, for now, Bitcoin must be doing something right...
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"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Well, you're in good company!
The Federal Reserve and every other central "bank" in the world is nothing but a ledger, to which numbers are added whenever the government wants them to buy more of its bonds (which it just prints out of thin air, and which they purchase with ledger money created out of thin air). So, if all ledger money is a ponzi scheme, and doomed, then Bitcoin is no worse than any other fiat money in the world on that grounds. The difference is that, unlike a central bank's ledger, the Bitcoin ledger cannot be added to (except for the mining subsidy, which is fully predictable, thus, priced in by the market). Let's see, I can either hold FRNs on the Federal Reserve's magic money ledger, which it dilutes and devalues ad nauseum, or I can hold BTC on the Bitcoin network's magic money ledger which cannot be diluted/devalued. I wonder which is better? The fact that Bitcoin is preferable to any ledger operated by a central "bank" means that we should expect that the ledger-money ponzi schemes operated by central "banks" will collapse before Bitcoin does. So, if all boats are sinking, I'd rather be in the Bitcoin boat than in an FRN boat. Et cetera.I understand quite well that the blockchain is just a string of numbers and has no inherent value except as a new kind of accounting ledger gimmick, brought to us by the usual accounting-gimmick suspects.
Nothing has monetary value unto itself. Search "subjective theory of value."It has no monetary value unto itself
Calm down with the gay porn there, cowboy... no need to get emotional about an Internet debate. Bitcoin is not free of faults, nor above criticism. But it's objectively better than the fiat "money" issued by any central "bank" in the world, and we're all quite used to doing business with that funny-money. So, Bitcoin is more than capable of doing exactly the same thing, with the same level of performance over time, meaning, ability to function until the "inevitable" ponzi-scheme collapse. And that's assuming your point that it's a ponzi-scheme. Which it objectively is not.and therefore the numbers on your little USB wallet thingie have no inherent value either. It has the same inherent value as your neighbor's dick pic on a USB stick does.
XYZ hates it, and they're not pretending, so it's certainly not "just another trick of the Establishment." Bitcoin may be a lot of things, but it's not a trick of the Establishment. They truly, madly, deeply hate Bitcoin...Yeah yeah....XYZ hates it so it must be great. That schtick is getting pretty tired lately.
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El beso de la muerte.
Almost hit $64k an hour ago, nearing it’s all time high.
The one think I like about Bitcoin is its stability.
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