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  1. #61
    My guess is, ... policy was followed
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Given that they prevented others from going in as well, their actions are pretty much consistent with someone wanting to increase casualties as much as possible.

    Hmm.

    Or- the FedGov ordered them to stand down, in the interest of not interfering with a Federal operation.

    Not sure exactly at this point, which is more likely, or which is more heinous.
    Or too many people are questioning why all the videos show a bunch of cops just standing around looking bored, a couple empty ambulances, a handful of bystanders taking cell phone videos (all of which looks like it's just a drill, not an active shooter scene with someone mowing down kids inside undisturbed) so the media narrative had to be changed again to explain it all away.
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  4. #63
    If true, this isn't looking good for the local Police.


    https://twitter.com/Scr0dman/status/1529903578906775556

    Not that this is a reliable source, but...

    A Uvalde mother says she was handcuffed while urging law enforcement officials to enter Robb Elementary School during Tuesday’s shooting, according to the Wall Street Journal. Angeli Rose Gomez, who has a second- and third-grader at the school, says that she was one of several parents begging police to breach the building. After a few minutes of increasingly urgent goading, Gomez alleges that federal marshals handcuffed her because she was intervening in an active investigation. Gomez said she tried to convince Uvalde police officers that she knew to convince the marshals to take the cuffs off, all while the scene around her grew increasingly hectic. She claims she even saw one desperate father get pepper-sprayed. When her cuffs were finally removed, Gomez claims that she jumped the school fence and dashed inside to get her children. Videos are circulating on social media that show family members, some of whom can be heard yelling at law enforcement officials, trying to enter Robb Elementary School, where 18-year-old gunman Salvador Ramos spent nearly an hour before eventually being shot dead by a Border Patrol agent.
    ...
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/uvalde...chool-shooting
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  5. #64

    More False Flag Signals: Police Were Stood Down for 40 Minutes to Hour While TX Shooter Killed

    Now where were we? As predicted, FBI knew Buffalo shooter; https://vnexplorer.net/?#the-buffalo...-s1453716.html

    - Parents were going to rush in unarmed themselves. How did a loser working at Wendys buy $4,000 worth of guns? He shot his grandmother over a phone bill. How many of these MK-Ultra Manchurians are lurking around? Are they out of control? If they are Manchurians who is triggering them in a steady beat that says "disarm Americans?" Why were the cops not ordered to charge at all costs? Who told them to stand down?

    Now we have a nice high bodycount for Beto O'Rourke to grandstand over.

    There was no confirmation that MK-Ultra was halted. The CIA just said "we have stopped. Cross our heart."

    MK-Ultra:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKUltra

    AP
    https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-te...482483df6e4683


    Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school


    By JAKE BLEIBERG, JIM VERTUNO

    "UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team..."

    “Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.


    Twitter video of parents begging cops to go in:

    https://twitter.com/StefSimanowitz/s...90631500611584


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  7. #65
    Cops Handcuffed, Arrested a Uvalde Mom for Trying To Rescue Her Kids
    Why did it take an hour for the police to stop alleged killer Salvador Ramos?
    ROBBY SOAVE | 5.26.2022

    The performance of law enforcement during the mass school shooting at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday appears to have been even worse than previously known.

    Early reporting that a school resource officer confronted alleged killer Salvador Ramos and engaged him in a gunfight was erroneous. At a press conference on Thursday, Texas Department of Public Safety spokesperson Chris Olivarez clarified that no such confrontation took place and became increasingly irritated as journalists pressed him to explain the source of the misinformation.

    Ramos entered through an unlocked door and faced no opposition until the police arrived several minutes later. He then became barricaded in a classroom, and the police failed to gain access and neutralize him for the next hour. It is likely that most of his victims—perhaps all of them—died in that classroom.

    As that hour elapsed, desperately frightened parents arrived outside the school and were prevented from entering by law enforcement. Video footage obtained by The New York Times shows parents frantically begging the police to either enter the school and intervene or get out of the way so that they could rescue their kids themselves. Their pleas were in vain.

    In fact, it took the police so long to get the situation under control that one mother who was 40 miles away when she learned about the shooting had enough time to drive to the school. According to The Wall Street Journal, police arrested and handcuffed her to prevent her from trying to save her children:
    ...
    More: https://reason.com/2022/05/26/uvalde...arents-killer/
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  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    If true, this isn't looking good for the local Police.
    ...
    Not that this is a reliable source, but...
    This whole story has the Standard Issue Boilerplate Cookie-Cutter Federal False Flag fingerprints all over it. Nothing but SOP as far as the eye can see. So, beware of jumping on the "local police are incompetent" bandwagon. Yes, it's cynical, but the possibility must be raised: is DC trying to make the Texas government look incompetent?

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Cops Handcuffed, Arrested a Uvalde Mom for Trying To Rescue Her Kids
    Why did it take an hour for the police to stop alleged killer Salvador Ramos?
    ROBBY SOAVE | 5.26.2022
    Counter-point: Why do the proven liars in the US MSMBS want us to believe the local police "stood down" for an hour?

  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Counter-point: Why do the proven liars in the US MSMBS want us to believe the local police "stood down" for an hour?
    Because they can't deny it because it happened in public with people around recording it on their cell phones?
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Because they can't deny it because it happened in public with people around recording it on their cell phones?
    What is the "it"? Has anyone confirmed that this is not just Sandy Hook 2.0? What does it even mean to confirm a news event nowadays, in our new "Great" Reset era of Soviet Pravda Propaganda from the traitorous US MSMBS / Enemy of the People?


  12. #70

    https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1529828388176859138
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Remember folks, most mass shootings are false flags in an effort to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
    Where did this trannie POS get the cash to buy the gear he used? Reputed to be at least $7K and he was driving an expensive pickup truck. What is his record with past police contact? WHY were the cops more concerned with holding back desperate parents from the school than they were in taking down the shooter? Proof the dead perp is the real and only perp rather than just a patsy brought to the scene to mislead?

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    What is the "it"? Has anyone confirmed that this is not just Sandy Hook 2.0?
    I'm not sure what you mean by that.

    But has anyone confirmed that the cops stood down for an hour? Yes. Lots of eye witnesses.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by that.

    But has anyone confirmed that the cops stood down for an hour? Yes. Lots of eye witnesses.
    That's gibberish. It's not possible for witnesses to confirm that the police "stood down" unless they were listening to all police scanners and they heard the chiefs of each involved agency order all their men to "stand down". Did anyone even hear a stand down order? Or is this just screeching "Mom"s spouting off that the police were "not doing anything", aka not running around in circles acting freaked out, as the script demanded?

    Or have we already forgotten that the media is THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE

  17. #74
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...cid=uxbndlbing

    Texas Department Public Safety spokesman Lt. Christopher Olivarez confirmed to a reporter during a live shot that police officers went into Robb Elementary School to get their own children during the massacre.

    Amid outrage over reports that frantic families who complained about police inaction during the massacre were held back by police, a clip of a live interview with Olivarez from Tuesday has gone viral.

    In the clip, Vanessa Croix of KENS 5 says she’s heard that police went into the school to get their own kids while the shooting was going on, asks Lt. Olivarez about it:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/uv...ed-01653564219

    https://abc7chicago.com/uvalde-texas...lice/11898413/

    First officers on the scene were inside the school within a few minutes according to authorities, who say the "carnage" had already started.

    But then, as 18-year-old Salvadore Ramos shot at police, the local officers retreated and waited almost an hour until border patrol and tactical teams arrived. By then,19 students and two teachers were already dead.
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    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  18. #75
    Are the Officers OK ?
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  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Are the Officers OK ?
    They are.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...aefe350783d03e

    However, multiple new videos and eye-witness accounts from the scene of the entirely preventable tragedy—which claimed the lives of 21 people—have revealed that several armed officers were on the scene and, in fact, did nothing to stop the 18-year-old shooter, Salvador Ramos.

    Not only does the Uvalde City School District have its own police department— staffed with a chief, five officers, and a security guardbut additional law enforcement called to the scene (including Border Patrol Agents, who ultimately killed Ramos) are shown to have stood idle in the parking lot outside of school as Ramos gunned down 19 children and two teachers in a barricaded classroom. Parents’ and bystanders’ desperate pleas can be heard on the videos, which were spliced from the livestream of an eyewitness, Hugo Cervantes.

    FFS this is the $#@! that turns people against the system.









    Continue reading

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    At a press conference on Thursday, Texas Department of Public Safety spokesperson Chris Olivarez clarified that no such confrontation took place and became increasingly irritated as journalists pressed him to explain the source of the misinformation.
    LOL. Why are they asking him to "explain the source of the misinformation"?

    Why don't they ask their fellow "journalists" - specifically, the ones who reported it - where they got it from?

  21. #78
    This is being put out by the Washington Post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  23. #80
    Arm Ukrainian’s!

    Dis Arm American’s!

    Clown show.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Are the Officers OK ?
    Yes. By not entering the school, they ensured their lives are safe while the same can't be said about the 21 people that lost their lives.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  27. #83
    This mornings headline on Insider , Retired Federal agent may have known about plans for Buffalo shooting ahead of massacre, report says .By Bill Bostck at Business Insider
    Do something Danke

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Arm Ukrainian’s!

    Dis Arm American’s!

    Clown show.
    It most certainly is.
    It's perfectly OK to arm Ukrainian civilians and their military (give them rifles, bombs, drones, tank busters, etc.) so they can protect their sovereignty against the ruskies (all started by a U.S. backed coup and Ukraine not following up on established treaties for 7 years), but here in America? "Nope, you racist, misogynist REEEEEE REEEEEEEEE, you need your guns taken away!"

    The left is mentally ill.

    ---

    Now that I've had a few days to digest all of this and the emotional fog of war is lifted, this kid was yet another depressed psycho. Looks like he didn't live with his parents, but his grandparents (grandpa was supposedly a felon). Some reports are being put out that he was often made fun for his clothes...

    So he decides to go shoot innocent kids? Yea, ok. Either he was really messed up or something else was happening (drugs, controlled by handlers). I doubt 7 year olds made fun of how he dressed.

    Even so, why doesn't every public school have a cop and/or private security on campus all day, every day? And even if they did, we see they do $#@! all about it when the time comes, right? So tell me again, when we have completely open borders how we're supposed to keep guns out when we disarm the millions of law abiding citizens?

    Does the left want to defund police or let them be the only ones with guns? I'm confused, what day is it and maybe I can tell you what we're supposed to think today.
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This is being put out by the Washington Post.


  31. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Yes. By not entering the school, they ensured their lives are safe while the same can't be said about the 21 people that lost their lives.
    Does anyone else in this thread feel uncomfortable dog-piling on the local Texas police, along with Biden/Obama/DC/MSMBS? I'm no fan of the up-armoring of police and excessive police power but you can be sure that, in Texas, the citizens are heavily armed too. So we're not talking about a situation of NYPD or LAPD beating the snot out of unarmed citizens because they feel like letting off a little steam. We simply don't know what happened yet. Based on the information available so far, it appears that the Border Patrol (Feds) actually took Ramos down, so it appears to be a situation where the Feds pre-empted the locals. Not sure how the Feds interfering in the local police response to an ongoing crime is supposed to be the fault of the locals...
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 05-27-2022 at 09:43 AM.

  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Does anyone else in this thread feel uncomfortable dog-piling on the local Texas police, along with Biden/Obama/DC/MSMBS?
    Not at all. The way you're framing this is ridiculous.

    The fact that a federal officer did what the local police should have done but simply didn't is no excuse for them, as though somehow that federal officer prevented them from acting. Meanwhile, those police actively prevented civilians from acting to protect innocent children.

    It would have been justified for those civilians to perform citizens' arrests on those cops in order to force them to stop impeding the activities of those who wanted to enter the school, up to the use of deadly force if necessary. In fact, making it possible for citizens to do that is one good way that this story illustrates the need to preserve the right to keep and bear arms.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)



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  34. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Not at all. The way you're framing this is ridiculous.

    The fact that a federal officer did what the local police should have done but simply didn't is no excuse for them, as though somehow that federal officer prevented them from acting. Meanwhile, those police actively prevented civilians from acting to protect innocent children.

    It would have been justified for those civilians to perform citizens' arrests on those cops in order to force them to stop impeding the activities of those who wanted to enter the school, up to the use of deadly force if necessary. In fact, making it possible for citizens to do that is one good way that this story illustrates the need to preserve the right to keep and bear arms.
    Citizens...all of us are citizens not "civilians".

    Just picking a nit...carry on.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    This mornings headline on Insider , Retired Federal agent may have known about plans for Buffalo shooting ahead of massacre, report says .By Bill Bostck at Business Insider
    If only one could be publicly unraveled.

    would anyone listen?
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