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    Stossel hobnobbing with the neocons

    Anyone care to guess why Stossel was at this meeting? I thought he was a libertarian!

    Bolton unloads on Trump’s foreign policy behind closed doors

    John Bolton, President Donald Trump’s fired national security adviser, harshly criticized Trump’s foreign policy on Wednesday at a private lunch, saying that inviting the Taliban to Camp David sent a “terrible signal” and that it was “disrespectful” to the victims of 9/11 because the Taliban had harbored al Qaeda.

    Bolton also said that any negotiations with North Korea and Iran were “doomed to failure,” according to two attendees.

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    Bolton spoke to around 60 Gatestone donors at the exclusive restaurant Le Bernardin in Manhattan. Attendees included noted lawyer Alan Dershowitz and his wife Carolyn, former attorney general Michael Mukasey, Newsmax CEO Chris Ruddy, First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams, former Fox Business Network host John Stossel, former New York Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey and New York billionaire John Catsimadis.

    Billionaire Rebekah Mercer introduced Bolton as “the best national security adviser our country could have hoped for,” garnering her very loud applause. Bolton had been scheduled to speak to the group before Trump fired him.

    In his talk and the Q&A session that followed, Bolton took attendees through a number of global issues.

    On Afghanistan, another frequent subject of disagreement with the president, Bolton said that the U.S. should not have pursued a peace deal with the Taliban.

    Instead, he said, the U.S. should keep 8,600 troops in Afghanistan with intelligence support and other support elements. He called the proposed deal that was on the table similar to the agreement the Taliban offered the U.S. after 9/11, but said “it doesn’t make any sense.”

    More than once, Bolton said, Israel would “sooner or later” see a new government, even though he personally liked Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    On Venezuela, a focus of his short White House tenure, Bolton claimed there were 20,000 to 25,000 Cuban troops in the South American country. The day they left, he predicted, the Nicholas Maduro regime would fall by midnight.

    He also said that if British Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn were to become prime minister, it would be “fatal to the special relationship” between the U.S. and Britain.

    During the Q&A session, Dershowitz told the crowd that it was “a national disaster” that Bolton had been booted from the White House, to what the attendee described as “thunderous applause."
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...policy-1501932



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    Social guy in New York. Seemed friendly with Bolton on his TV show even while calling him naive to his face. Remember a long time ago he spoke a Bill Kristol event and didn't give an inch.

    And then he ripped Donald Rumsfeld to his face at dinner where Stossel introduced Rumsfeld. Wouldn't read too much into this.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/washingt...fense-spending

    John Stossel got a little bit feisty Tuesday night in his introduction of Donald Rumsfeld as the keynote speaker at the 30th anniversary dinner party for the conservative newspaper The Washington Times. The former Secretary of Defense wasn't impressed.

    Instead of praising Rumsfeld, as keynote introductions often do, Stossel, an investigative journalist and libertarian columnist, said he didn't know why he was tasked with introducing Rumsfeld because "I'm very skeptical of our involvement in many parts of the world."

    Known as much for his criticism of government programs as his signature mustache, Stossel criticized the Department of Defense for spending too much money and continuing to have an uniformed presence in too many countries. "We're going broke. Can we afford to keep spending 600 billion dollars on our military?"

    Last edited by Krugminator2; 09-19-2019 at 10:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Anyone care to guess why Stossel was at this meeting? I thought he was a libertarian!



    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...policy-1501932

    Disgraced Foxnews neocon Bill O'Really also used to identify as a 'Libertarian'.. but that doesn't mean he really was ; to be a genuine bearer of libertine philosophy requires more than just being cool with weed, guns, LGBTQ choices etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Disgraced Foxnews neocon Bill O'Really also used to identify as a 'Libertarian'.. but that doesn't mean he really was ; to be a genuine bearer of libertine philosophy requires more than just being cool with weed, guns, LGBTQ choices etc.
    Why did you just write that post? Did you completely miss the one right above yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post

    Disgraced Foxnews neocon Bill O'Really also used to identify as a 'Libertarian'.. but that doesn't mean he really was ; to be a genuine bearer of libertine philosophy requires more than just being cool with weed, guns, LGBTQ choices etc.
    Why did you just write that post? Did you completely miss the one right above yours?
    Yes I did, I was responded to OP comment there only.

    Don't know much about Stossel, it is very possible that fakenews wars lies pimping Foxnews channel host Stossel is an anomaly and is a genuine truth telling libertarian and like neocons tools Bolton, Dershowitz, Levin, hannity etc is not a fakebag plant of foreign-first neocon lobbies. I just have not seen enough of his track record to opine on that.

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    I like Stossel in general but I've learned that anyone that's given a spotlight (especially "news" related like Fox News) is likely controlled opposition and should not be blindly trusted about anything.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    Anyone care to guess why Stossel was at this meeting? I thought he was a libertarian!


    Could have been there in the capacity of a journalist. As the last true journalist, it wouldn't be surprising.

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    Since when does being a libertarian limit who you can hobnob with?



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