NH - Over 5000 out of state illegal voters swung election results

[Anti Federalist]

Explains a lot.

$#@!ing Massholes.




More than 5,000 out-of-state voters may have tipped New Hampshire against Trump

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...hire-presiden/

By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Thursday, September 7, 2017

Over 6,000 individuals registered to vote in New Hampshire on Election Day Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses — and since then the vast majority have neither obtained an in-state license nor registered a motor vehicle.

Speaker of the New Hampshire House Shawn Jasper, a Republican, issued the findings on Thursday based on inquiries he made to the Department of State, which oversees elections, and the Department of Safety.

Since election days, Republicans have charged that a significant number of non-resident Democrats, principally from Massachusetts, flowed into New Hampshire to vote illegally, tilting close elections to their party. Mr. Jasper’s findings give credence, though not outright proof, to those allegations.

The numbers read this way:

6,540 people voted using out-of-state licenses

As of Aug. 30, 1014, about 15 percent had been issued N.H. driver’s licenses.

Of the remaining 5,526, only 3.3 percent had registered a motor vehicle in New Hampshire.

Over 80 percent, 5,313, who used non-N.H. driver’s licenses, had neither a state licenses nor had registered a motor vehicle.

There are 196 people today who are being investigated for voting illegally both in New Hampshire and in other states.

Hillary Clinton defeated Donald Trump in News Hampshire by 2,736 votes.

Democratic Sen. Maggie Hassan defeated incumbent Republican Kelly Ayotte by 1,017 votes.

Last February, while meeting with senators at the White House, Mr. Trump said he lost New Hampshire because thousands of Massachusetts residents crossed state lines to vote. He also said Mrs. Ayotte lost for the same reason: illegal voting.

The liberal media dismissed his allegations. The Boston Globe called them “groundless.”

The president has appointed a special commission to investigate voter integrity, led by Vice President Mike Pence.

Democrats oppose the panel and have called for its demise.

At least two scientific surveys show that a larger number of non-citizens register and vote illegally in U.S. elections. One poll found that a large majority vote Democrat.

[Swordsmyth]

Vote Early, Vote Often.

[Zippyjuan]

registered to vote in New Hampshire on Election Day Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses

"Used an out-of state license". Perhaps somebody who has moved to New Hampshire and is still using their old license from another state until it expires before getting a new one in the state. Or maybe college students.

give credence, though not outright proof, to those allegations.

http://sos.nh.gov/nhsos_content.aspx?id=26190

HOW TO REGISTER

1) Apply to your town or city clerk’s office. You will be required to fill out a standard voter registration form and will be required to show proof of age, citizenship and domicile.

2) It may be easier for you to register with your community’s Supervisors of the Checklist. By law, they are required to meet on the Saturday 10 days prior to each election. Check the local newspaper(s) or call your clerk’s office for the date and time of such meeting.

3) Qualified individuals may also register to vote at the polling place on election day at all elections. You will be asked to show proof of age, citizenship and domicile.

http://sos.nh.gov/nhsos_content.aspx?id=12816

Identity
Driver's license (New Hampshire or out-of-state); a U.S. or state-issued photo ID; a U. S. passport, or any other proof determined reasonable by the supervisors of the checklist.

The Federal Help America Vote Act (HAVA) requires each person applying to register to vote to provide a driver's license or non-driver ID number (if the voter has a license or non-driver ID from any state) or, only if the voter is not licensed to drive or does not have a state issued non-driver identification, the last four digits of his/her social security number. Federal law requires that the validity of the registration information provided be checked against the information on file with the Department of Motor Vehicles or the Social Security Administration.

Age
Birth certificate (or copy); U. S. passport; driver's license; or non-driver identification.

U.S. Citizenship
Birth certificate (or copy); U.S. passport; or qualified voter affidavit.

Domicile
New Hampshire driver's license listing the address the voter claims as his/her voting domicile; motor vehicle registration; or government issued photo ID with current address; any other proof accepted as reasonable by the supervisors of the checklist or a domicile affidavit.

Check with the town or city clerk in the municipality where you plan to register to determine if that town/city has adopted a list of alternative documents that will be accepted as presumptive proof of domicile. Some towns accept forms issued by your college or university. You can find your clerk's contact information here.

If you do not have these forms of identification which prove identity, domicile, citizenship and age or all of these, you may complete a domicile affidavit, and/or a qualified voter affidavit.

[Swordsmyth]

"Used an out-of state license". Perhaps somebody who has moved to New Hampshire and is still using their old license from another state until it expires before getting a new one in the state.




http://sos.nh.gov/nhsos_content.aspx?id=26190

6,540 people voted using out-of-state licenses

As of Aug. 30, 1014, about 15 percent had been issued N.H. driver’s licenses.

Of the remaining 5,526, only 3.3 percent had registered a motor vehicle in New Hampshire.

Over 80 percent, 5,313, who used non-N.H. driver’s licenses, had neither a state licenses nor had registered a motor vehicle.


HOW TO REGISTER

1) Apply to your town or city clerk’s office. You will be required to fill out a standard voter registration form and will be required to show proof of age, citizenship and domicile.

Because they couldn't have been given fake proof of domilcile by the dems right?

[Zippyjuan]

6,540 people voted using out-of-state licenses

As of Aug. 30, 1014, about 15 percent had been issued N.H. driver’s licenses.

Of the remaining 5,526, only 3.3 percent had registered a motor vehicle in New Hampshire.

Over 80 percent, 5,313, who used non-N.H. driver’s licenses, had neither a state licenses nor had registered a motor vehicle.


HOW TO REGISTER

1) Apply to your town or city clerk’s office. You will be required to fill out a standard voter registration form and will be required to show proof of age, citizenship and domicile.

Because they couldn't have been given fake proof of domilcile by the dems right?

None of which is any proof of even as single vote fraudulently cast. If you move to a new state do you get a new driver's license the first day? If you have not yet gotten a license for that state, is that proof you don't actually live in that state? Let alone cast a ballot illegally in that state?

[Swordsmyth]

None of which is any proof of even as single vote fraudulently cast. If you move to a new state do you get a new driver's license the first day? If you have not yet gotten a license for that state, is that proof you don't actually live in that state? Let alone cast a ballot illegally in that state?

It is cause for investigation.

It is a lot more than Russiagate ever was.

[dannno]

The president has appointed a special commission to investigate voter integrity, led by Vice President Mike Pence.

Well that explains why this has gone nowhere..

[TheCount]

Should be easy to find.

[angelatc]

It is a lot more than Russiagate ever was.

Yeah, that's really true.

[phill4paul]

None of which is any proof of even as single vote fraudulently cast. If you move to a new state do you get a new driver's license the first day? If you have not yet gotten a license for that state, is that proof you don't actually live in that state? Let alone cast a ballot illegally in that state?

Shaddup....

If you have an out-of-state driver's license, you must transfer it for a New Hampshire license within 60 days of moving to the state.

https://www.dmv.org/nh-new-hampshire...-hampshire.php

[Zippyjuan]

With millions of alleged fraudulent votes supposedly cast, this is the best "evidence" they can come up with?

[Zippyjuan]

Shaddup....



https://www.dmv.org/nh-new-hampshire...-hampshire.php

Do people get arrested for that? Is it enforced?

[Swordsmyth]

With millions of alleged fraudulent votes supposedly cast, this is the best "evidence" they can come up with?

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

[Swordsmyth]

Do people get arrested for that? Is it enforced?

Every state I have moved to would ticket you and eventually place you under arrest if you did not update your license and registration.

[Zippyjuan]

Every state I have moved to would ticket you and eventually place you under arrest if you did not update your license and registration.

It would only come up if you are stopped by the police and they notice you have been a resident of the state for more than 60 days. How many times were you arrested? If I had one from another state I would keep it until it expired. Put off dealing with the DMV as long as possible.

Never heard of arrests. They may give you a ticket which is erased if you take care of it within a certain amount of time.

[phill4paul]

Do people get arrested for that? Is it enforced?

[Zippyjuan]

Exactly. Not having a New Hampshire driver's license does not mean a person is not a resident of New Hampshire. It does not mean they voted. It does not mean they voted illegally. It means exactly nothing.

[dannno]

With millions of alleged fraudulent votes supposedly cast, this is the best "evidence" they can come up with?

lol, I've been seeing articles all over the place for months about more people voting than registered voters, or worse, in various locales. Then there is the evidence of illegals admitting to voting in surveys.

[Zippyjuan]

lol, I've been seeing articles all over the place about more people voting than registered voters, or worse.

Oh yeah, the ones where the machines jammed so people kept trying to stuff the same ballot in over and over raising the counter on the machines.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

How many times were you arrested?

He didn't say he was arrested.

[phill4paul]

Exactly. Not having a New Hampshire driver's license does not mean a person is not a resident of New Hampshire. It does not mean they voted. It does not mean they voted illegally. It means exactly nothing.

Not exactly. Not having a New Hampshire license doesn't mean they are a resident of New Hampshire even if they voted in New Hampshire. It's probable they voted if they registered to vote. Why go through the trouble? It may very well mean they voted illegally. To some, in close elections, it may mean quite a bit.
And if you haven't got the memo, Hillary was full of $#@!. It DID and DOES matter what really happened in Benghazi.

[Zippyjuan]

Not exactly. Not having a New Hampshire license doesn't mean they are a resident of New Hampshire even if they voted in New Hampshire. It's probable they voted if they registered to vote. Why go through the trouble? It may very well mean they voted illegally. To some, in close elections, it may mean quite a bit.
And if you haven't got the memo, Hillary was full of $#@!. It DID and DOES matter what really happened in Benghazi.

Exactly. Why go through the trouble? Why would you drive all the way to another state where you did not live and were not registered to cast your single ballot when you have zero idea that it would even make a whit of difference in the outcome of that state after waiting in line to cast your ballot in your own state? Or would you travel as a group? It would be kinds suspicious if an entire bus of people pulls up with out of state IDs and tries to register at a single precinct at the same time. It makes no sense.

[dannno]

Oh yeah, the ones where the machines jammed so people kept trying to stuff the same ballot in over and over raising the counter on the machines.

Oh, so I guess voting for Hillary makes the machines jam

[Swordsmyth]

Oh yeah, the ones where the machines jammed so people kept trying to stuff the same ballot in over and over raising the counter on the machines.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Or would you travel as a group? It would be kinds suspicious if an entire bus of people pulls up with out of state IDs and tries to register at a single precinct at the same time. It makes no sense.

It makes no sense because you just made up a dumb scenario.

Exactly. Why go through the trouble?

Why do you go through the trouble of posting on this site? What is the common element motivating a lot of devious activity?

...you have zero idea that it would even make a whit of difference...

Are you making a difference here? Do you know? If so, how do you know?









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[Swordsmyth]

Exactly. Why go through the trouble? Why would you drive all the way to another state where you did not live and were not registered to cast your single ballot when you have zero idea that it would even make a whit of difference in the outcome of that state after waiting in line to cast your ballot in your own state? Or would you travel as a group? It would be kinds suspicious if an entire bus of people pulls up with out of state IDs and tries to register at a single precinct at the same time. It makes no sense.

Religious fervor.
And who said they all came on the same bus?

[specsaregood]

It's probable they voted if they registered to vote. Why go through the trouble?

Especially if they registered to vote ON election day. Besides, They know if they voted and it says in the OP exactly how many: "6,540 people voted using out-of-state licenses" of course it isn't "evidence" but its enough to investigate and charge people with crimes. I suspect the fines that could be issued would cover the costs.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Time to post on Ron Paul Forums! Where is our fearless leader, ZippyJuan?

[Zippyjuan]

Oh, so I guess voting for Hillary makes the machines jam

http://time.com/4599886/detroit-voti...-election-day/

Detroit Voting Machine Failures Were Widespread on Election Day

More than 80 voting machines in Detroit malfunctioned on Election Day, officials say, resulting in ballot discrepancies in 59% of precincts that raise questions about the reliability of future election results in a city dominated by Democratic and minority voters.

"This is not the first time," adds Daniel Baxter, elections director for the city. "We've had this problem in nearly every election that we administer in the city of Detroit." Baxter says that the machines were tested for accuracy before election day in accordance with state and federal guidelines, but that sometimes the machines "hit up against each other and malfunction" as they're being transported to the precincts.

The machines were optical scanners, meaning they registered and counted the votes marked on paper ballots. Many of the machines jammed over the course of election day, perhaps because Michigan had a two-page ballot this year, which meant that paper ballots were collected but inconsistently recorded by the machines. Michigan does not have early voting, so any mechanical malfunction would necessarily happen on election day, since that's the only day the machines are used. That's why so many machines malfunctioned at the same time. "You don't expect a laptop to last 10 years, and you shouldn't expect a voting machines to last 10 years," says Detroit City Clerk Janice Winfrey.

The errors were found as part of a recount process prompted by losing Green Party candidate for President Jill Stein. The Michigan recount was halted last week after a judge determined that Stein, who has urged recounts in several states, did not qualify as an "aggrieved party" in the election, making her request for a recount invalid. Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes. "The recount campaign was premised on the notion that we deserve a voting system we can trust," said Dr. Jill Stein in a press call Tuesday about the recount efforts. "No, we do not have a voting system we can trust."

Even if the recount had moved forward, Clinton would have been unlikely to have picked up the state.

[Zippyjuan]

Religious fervor.
And who said they all came on the same bus?

Who says they weren't residents of New Hampshire? Registration, even on election day, requires proof of residency. You can't just walk in and vote. Not having a New Hampshire license is not proof they weren't.

3) Qualified individuals may also register to vote at the polling place on election day at all elections. You will be asked to show proof of age, citizenship and domicile.

Domicile
New Hampshire driver's license listing the address the voter claims as his/her voting domicile; motor vehicle registration; or government issued photo ID with current address; any other proof accepted as reasonable by the supervisors of the checklist or a domicile affidavit.

Links in earlier post.