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    Trump Campaign Promise Fulfilled - Killing lots of families

    https://airwars.org/news/1000th-allegation/

    Since January, alleged Coalition civilian casualty events have been outpacing those of Russia. Initial data for March provides further evidence that civilian casualty allegations are both becoming more common under President Trump, and are likely to outrun Coalition efforts to track and investigate them.
    Here's some of this month's haul so far -






    There's worse at the link at the top of the post if you care to see it.

    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018



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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Another one from 3/22. Thanks, trump for taking this 10-year old boy out before he could become a jihadist.

    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    America was first. Firas and Taiba here were second. They died in trump's March 17 holocaust in Al Jadida.

    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    This is coming from George Soros, am I correct?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This is coming from George Soros, am I correct?
    Good for him if so.

    Munatha Jasim watched Iraqi civil defense workers in red suits scurry among the ruins of her neighbors’ homes Friday, extracting the dead and zipping them into blue body bags.

    The massive explosion that tore through Baghdad Street last week killed nine of Jasim’s relatives, including son Firas, 7, and daughter Taiba, 4. “We recovered half his body,” she said of the 7-year-old. “The rest is still there.”
    http://staugustine.com/2017-03-26/us...zens-civilians
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This is coming from George Soros, am I correct?
    Do you really think the U.S. government has bombs that only kill bad guys? There is no way civilians are getting killed right? Attack the messenger, disregard the message. You neo-cons have perfected that technique.
    A sense of danger gives birth to fear. And fear is the time-honored cross for the crucifixion of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    This is coming from George Soros, am I correct?
    This was worth a -rep. If you truly don't give a crap who dies as long as trump looks good, maybe reexamine your life.

    You maybe right and 6-12 months from now, trump will become the peace president. Right now, he's a hardcore murderer like McCain and Obama. On steroids.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018



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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    This was worth a -rep. If you truly don't give a crap who dies as long as trump looks good, maybe reexamine your life.

    You maybe right and 6-12 months from now, trump will become the peace president. Right now, he's a hardcore murderer like McCain and Obama. On steroids.
    If you are onboard with a George Soros campaign, you are being deceived into something very evil with propaganda and misinformation. Additionally, you will lose credibility at least 90% of the forum who aren't shills. Do some $#@!ing homework.

    Give me as many -reps as you want, I don't give a $#@!, they mean nothing coming from someone who supports a George Soros campaign. It's really more like a badge of honor.
    Last edited by dannno; 04-04-2017 at 03:38 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    Do you really think the U.S. government has bombs that only kill bad guys? There is no way civilians are getting killed right? Attack the messenger, disregard the message. You neo-cons have perfected that technique.
    Totally irrelevant. And I am not a neocon, you are a neocon if you support George Soros.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Totally irrelevant. And I am not a neocon, you are a neocon if you support George Soros.
    Since you enjoy it when the government kills civilians, I would say you are the neocon. Nice try though. Kind of like how you say you don't support Trump then go all over the forums defending his honor. You are exactly what you say you aren't.
    A sense of danger gives birth to fear. And fear is the time-honored cross for the crucifixion of liberty.

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    Did congress declare war?

    Or is this just a continuation of Busch and Obamas killing spree?

    Seems like a good way to 'drain the swamp' would be to hang all the people involved in waging undeclared war by the neck until they're dead.

    And that includes those who have been involved in the past too........

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    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    Since you enjoy it when the government kills civilians, I would say you are the neocon. Nice try though. Kind of like how you say you don't support Trump then go all over the forums defending his honor. You are exactly what you say you aren't.
    So, you would support Satan if he complained about something he claimed that Donald Trump did? Because that is basically what you are doing. Ya, let's let Satan take over the world because after all of the MILLIONS of deaths our government has caused, Donald Trump caused a couple in trying to wind it all down.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Donald Trump caused a couple
    neocon disinformation at its finest. Sick.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    neocon disinformation at its finest. Sick.
    George Soros supports neocons, neocons support George Soros. You are literally posting neocon propaganda. If you aren't being paid by George Soros, you should be.

    If Ron Paul were President, George Soros would be putting out a bunch of false flag bull$#@! propaganda about how Ron Paul is killing babies too. The guy is $#@!ing evil incarnate. GET OFF HIS TEAM NOW if you care about humanity.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Donald Trump caused a couple in trying to wind it all down.
    Trump's Drone Strikes Outpace Obama

    By at least one measure at this point in his presidency, Trump has been more interventionist than Obama: in authorizing drone strikes and special operations raids in non-battlefield settings (namely, in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia). During President Obama’s two terms in office, he approved 542 such targeted strikes in 2,920 days—one every 5.4 days. From his inauguration through today, President Trump had approved at least 75 drone strikes or raids in 74 days—about one every day. These include three drone strikes in Yemen on January 20, 21, and 22; the January 28 Navy SEAL raid in Yemen; more than seventy strikes in Yemen since February 28; and one reported strike in Pakistan on March 1.
    US Troop Presence In Syria At Its Highest Ever

    The Trump Administration is intensifying America’s involvement in the ground war in Syria, having announced on March 9 that it is sending 400 more troops to join the fight against ISIS there. The new deployment of Army Rangers and a U.S. Marine artillery unit raises fresh questions about the scope and timeline of the U.S. mission in Syria, where the number of American troops is now approaching a high of around a thousand (Washington has not disclosed an exact number). The U.S. is also sending another 2,500 troops to a staging base in Kuwait, awaiting possible deployment to Iraq or Syria.

    Recent comments from U.S. officials suggest that the military is contemplating a deployment in Syria that extends far beyond the defeat of ISIS as a conventional armed force. In his testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee on March 9, Army General Joseph Votel, who leads the U.S. Central Command, said additional forces may be needed in the future to help with “stability and other aspects of the operations.” The Pentagon is also considering lifting a formal cap of roughly 500 U.S. troops permitted on the ground in Syria, a limitation imposed by former President Barack Obama, according to the Washington Post.
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    If you truly don't give a crap who dies as long as trump looks good, maybe reexamine your life.
    Seconded
    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 04-04-2017 at 04:03 PM.



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    Trump has been raising troops and attacks in all the countries we are currently at war with. And stirring things up more with ones we are not yet fighting- North Korea and Iran. His foreign policy team is staffed with generals.

    https://www.ft.com/content/4d9f65d6-...5-0dd2cb31823a

    Donald Trump warns China the US is ready to tackle North Korea

    Donald Trump has warned that the US will take unilateral action to eliminate the nuclear threat from North Korea unless China increases pressure on the regime in Pyongyang.

    In an interview with the Financial Times, the US president said he would discuss the growing threat from*Kim Jong Un’s nuclear programme with Xi Jinping when he hosts the Chinese president at his Florida resort this week, in their first meeting.

    “China has great influence over North Korea. And China will either decide to help us with North Korea, or they won’t,” Mr Trump said in the Oval Office. “If they do, that will be very good for China, and if they don’t, it won’t be good for anyone.”

    But he made clear that he would deal with North Korea with or without China’s help. Asked if he would consider a “grand bargain” — where China pressures Pyongyang in exchange for a guarantee that the US would later remove troops from the Korean peninsula — Mr Trump said: “Well if China is not going to solve North Korea, we will. That is all I am telling you.”
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-04-2017 at 04:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    George Soros supports neocons, neocons support George Soros. You are literally posting neocon propaganda. If you aren't being paid by George Soros, you should be.

    If Ron Paul were President, George Soros would be putting out a bunch of false flag bull$#@! propaganda about how Ron Paul is killing babies too. The guy is $#@!ing evil incarnate. GET OFF HIS TEAM NOW if you care about humanity.
    Here's your FIFY. Donald trump supports neocons, neocons support Donald trump. You are literally posting neocon propaganda. If you aren't being paid by Donald trump, you should be.

    If Ron Paul were President, Donald trump would be putting out a bunch of false flag bull$#@! propaganda about how Ron Paul is killing babies too. The guy is $#@!ing evil incarnate. GET OFF HIS TEAM NOW if you care about humanity.

    Right now, if Open Society's giving some funding to airwars.org is equivalent to "neocon propaganda," then the neocons in this case have the moral high ground. x1000, That's HOW BAD trump is.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    Here's your FIFY. Donald trump supports neocons, neocons support Donald trump. You are literally posting neocon propaganda. If you aren't being paid by Donald trump, you should be.
    Uh, you are literally posting horse $#@!. Neocons do not like Donald Trump. I honestly have no idea what dimension you exist in if you think that.


    If Ron Paul were President, Donald trump would be putting out a bunch of false flag bull$#@! propaganda about how Ron Paul is killing babies too. The guy is $#@!ing evil incarnate. GET OFF HIS TEAM NOW if you care about humanity.
    Sorry, that is just retarded.

    Right now, if Open Society's giving some funding to airwars.org is equivalent to "neocon propaganda," then the neocons in this case have the moral high ground. x1000, That's HOW BAD trump is.
    LOL... you think that neocons care about killing babies? You think the neocons think that Donald Trump is being too rough on the Middle East???? That's pretty cute. You know if true, this literally would put you in "moron territory", right?

    First you say the neocons are for Donald Trump, now you say the neocons have the moral high ground against Donald Trump.. why can't you get your propaganda straight?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump has been raising troops and attacks in all the countries we are currently at war with. And stirring things up more with ones we are not yet fighting- North Korea and Iran.
    I'm not convinced he'll actually attack N. Korea (one hopes his advisors aren't quite that insane), but he's certainly upping the hostile rhetoric.

    For Iran, I could actually see a war breaking out, if he persists in escalating the war in Syria.

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    GOP Takes Up Russia-Aligned Attack On Soros

    A group of congressional Republicans is teaming up with Russia-backed politicians in Eastern Europe with the shared goal of stopping a common enemy: billionaire financier George Soros.


    Led by Rep. Chris Smith of New Jersey and Sen. Mike Lee of Utah, the conservative lawmakers have signed on to a volley of letters accusing Soros of using his philanthropic spending to project his liberal sensibilities onto European politics. As Lee and other senators put it in a March 14 letter to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Soros’ Open Society Foundations are trying “to push a progressive agenda and invigorate the political left.”

    It’s an accusation that’s being fomented and championed by Moscow.

    Soros, who survived the Nazi occupation of his native Hungary and fled after World War II when it was under Soviet control, has been long a bête noire of the Kremlin, which sees his funding for civil society groups in former Soviet satellite states as part of a plot to install pro-Western governments.

    For years, those complaints had generally fallen on deaf ears in Washington.

    While Republicans have long regarded Soros as a mortal enemy when it comes to domestic politics (where he has spent tens of millions of dollars backing Democratic candidates and liberal causes), their politics were more aligned on the international stage. Soros’ efforts to boost democracy and root out corruption in former Eastern Bloc countries dovetailed with traditional Republican foreign policy objectives.

    But things may have started changing after Donald Trump’s stunning victory in a presidential campaign during which he emphasized nationalist themes. Politicians with nationalist constituencies in several former Eastern Bloc states have become increasingly aggressive in seeking international support for their crusade against Soros, and they seem to have found at least some takers in the GOP.

    The particular focus of the letters from Lee, Smith and their cohort is spending by Soros’ foundations in Macedonia, a former socialist republic in the throes of a two-year political crisis, and to a lesser extent in its neighbor to the west, Albania. In the former Communist country, which has struggled with allegations of corruption, one letter expressed concerns that “Soros-backed organizations” are pushing reforms “ultimately aimed to give the Prime Minister and left-of-center government full control over judiciary power.”

    The letters, which ask the State Department and the Government Accountability Office for information about U.S. foreign aid funding for Soros groups in the Balkans, came after lobbying from the right-wing party clinging to power in Macedonia, VMRO-DPMNE.

    Chris Stone, president of the Open Society Foundations, suggested that autocratic regimes see Trump’s rise as giving them carte blanche to resist reforms, and to dismiss those proposing them.

    “Authoritarians, branded today as ‘illiberals,’ have long opposed George Soros and the vision of an open society, but they have been emboldened by Trump's victory to go even further,” Stone told POLITICO.

    So far, the Republican lobbying against Soros’ efforts in Macedonia has not resulted in much. But the involvement of several high-profile Republicans, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, is raising eyebrows within the U.S. foreign policy community, who see the baleful influence of Moscow making inroads on Capitol Hill.

    Russia is trying to exploit the crisis in Macedonia to sow distrust of the U.S. and pull the right-wing party into its orbit, regional analysts say. And the Republican lawmakers’ concern — that the U.S. is, in the words of Lee’s letter to Tillerson, “fomenting political unrest, disrespecting national sovereignty and civil society” — handed Moscow a major propaganda coup, they warn.

    Russia’s state-controlled English-language websites rushed to trumpet Lee’s and Smith’s letters, holding them up as proof that the U.S. is guilty of exactly what it accuses Russia of doing in 2016 — interfering in another country’s politics.

    “Senators ask Tillerson to probe US ‘fomenting unrest’ in other countries,” RT blared.

    Sputnik News reported on Lee’s letter under the headline “Tables Turned: Have Obama and Soros Hacked Foreign Elections?”

    The claims have been echoed in right-wing U.S. outlets, from the conspiracy website Infowars to Fox News.

    “It’s straight from the Russian playbook — the idea that some American NGO is fomenting the demonstrations is like ascribing to the CIA mystical powers that don’t exist,” said a policy analyst with knowledge of the Balkans. “The Russians have been using all tactics at their disposal, and it’s a very inexpensive way to stir the pot.”

    ...
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...blicans-214938
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    I'm not convinced he'll actually attack N. Korea (one hopes his advisors aren't quite that insane), but he's certainly upping the hostile rhetoric.

    For Iran, I could actually see a war breaking out, if he persists in escalating the war in Syria.
    Aside from military action, the US on its own has no leverage with North Korea. There aren't any economic ties to sever or sanctions we can impose (sanctions have an extensive record of failing anyways and not just with Korea- they have rarely worked anywhere in the world). But yeah, some think it may be part of a negotiation tactic ahead of the Chinese leader meeting with Trump this week.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-04-2017 at 04:32 PM.

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    “It’s straight from the Russian playbook — the idea that some American NGO is fomenting the demonstrations is like ascribing to the CIA mystical powers that don’t exist,” said a policy analyst with knowledge of the Balkans. “The Russians have been using all tactics at their disposal, and it’s a very inexpensive way to stir the pot.”
    LOL

    American NGOs (national endowment for democracy, etc, etc) do foment pro-US demonstrations around the world, esp. in former Soviet space. And the Kremlin does the exact same thing, esp. in Europe. The US wants to break Ukraine et al away from Russia, Russia wants to break up NATO. "Pro-democracy" type movements are often a US government front, as "anti-globalist" type movements are often a Russian front. The only difference, really, is that the US does it better ($$$), at least so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/george-soros-russia-republicans-214938
    Soros, who survived the Nazi occupation of his native Hungary
    ....by confiscating Jewish property...
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    i don't blame Trump. I blame ignorant liberal voters, and the entire foreign policy that goes back to the 50's, and the MIC...

    sure, blame Trump all you want. Doesn't change the fact he inherited the sins of the past.

    Thats why i supported Ron Paul. Entangling Alliances with none, but i think it will take a few decades to end this bull$#@!.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    i don't blame Trump. I blame ignorant liberal voters, and the entire foreign policy that goes back to the 50's, and the MIC...
    How about, all of the above?

    Trump shouldn't get a pass for being a warmonger just because his predecessors were also warmongers.

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Or is this just a continuation of Busch and Obamas killing spree?
    More than a continuation. He has increased the rate of bombings by 3x.

    President Trump is looking far more interventionist than President Obama was, even though Trump promised the opposite during the campaign. During President Obama’s two terms in office, he approved 542 targeted drone strikes over the course of 2,920 days, equalling one every 5.4 days. From his inauguration through today, President Trump had approved at least 37 drone strikes or Special Operations Forces raids in 68 days, or one every 1.8 days.
    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/30/...keeping-saudi/
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    How about, all of the above?

    Trump shouldn't get a pass for being a warmonger just because his predecessors were also warmongers.
    i know Ron said we could just 'pull out', but do you really think that can happen?...and what would the blow back be?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    https://airwars.org/news/1000th-allegation/



    Here's some of this month's haul so far -

    There's worse at the link at the top of the post if you care to see it.
    your source is questionable at best and completely untrustworthy at the worst. How about that fake government gas attack in 2013?

    It is important to note, however, that particularly in the context of Iraq and Syria, casualty monitoring presents significant challenges. We report information on alleged strikes and casualties in good faith, though are often unable to follow up or to further verify such claims.
    https://airwars.org/methodology-new-draft/
    Last edited by spudea; 04-04-2017 at 05:20 PM.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
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    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

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