Originally Posted by Jan2017
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Told ya it's not all bad.
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Macron and Le Pen square up for French presidential debate
Verbal battle royal expected but televised event may not be the ‘decisive’ moment being portrayed in the country’s media
The candidates will face off across a table for more than two hours on Wednesday evening with two journalists acting as referees.
The debate between the first and second rounds of the French presidential elections has been a tradition since 1974 and has been
described by the French media as a decisive moment.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...dential-debate
Macron still leading by nearly 20 points, but that gap's closed by about 6 points since the first round of voting.
Debate seemed like it was fun.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-live-coverage
Le Pen says the France that Macron defends is not France, it is a market.
She says her France is a nation, with a people, a culture. France has been in chaos, it is time to restore order.
"Abstention" of voting is a movement that could hurt Marcon.
fwiw, France doesn't waste any time with a transition like US . . .
new French president inaugurated 10 days after final vote on Sunday.
Last edited by Jan2017; 05-03-2017 at 03:55 PM.
Lovely, nationalistic anti-capitalism...
...that always ends well.
Ignore the polls. They've been dead wrong about anything of importance for the last year. I'd even put on the tinfoil hat and say intentionally wrong.
The parallels to Trump/Clinton are uncanny, though the "anti-establishment" candidate is the female this time. I'm betting on Le Pen. Tis mightier than Le Sword!
French debate features insults to the bitter end
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.83c97216a9ef
Last edited by devil21; 05-03-2017 at 05:08 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
They were pretty much spot on for the first round.
I meant the general election. One could consider the first round to be the "primary" and the second round to be the "general election". The US primary polling was accurate but the general election was way off.
Pollsters got Trump all wrong. They got Brexit all wrong. I'm betting they get this one all wrong too, but purposely. I have a pretty solid theory of what's really going on here and I'll explain it once Le Pen wins, despite the polling.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
The polls weren't far off on Trump. The last RCP average had Hillary up 3.2%, she ended up winning the popular vote by 2.1%; with the exception of WI (which was WAY off) most of the swing states polls were close as well. Brexit was further off. Anyway, I'd give Le Pen say 30% chance of winning. I certainly hope she loses. Trump is doing a fine job of demoralizing the global nationalist movement (no pun intended); a La Pen win would reinvigorate the nincompoops.
It is anti-female to make them wear that $#@!, it is oppressive and unnecessary in civilized society. If women want to wear it, great, but they are just promoting their own oppression.
Do you know why they started wearing burkas thousands of years ago or more? It wasn't religion - religion co-opted the burka and changed the reasons why they wore them. They made women wear that stuff thousands of years ago to help keep them from being kidnapped by other tribes. When you can see the women, then it is easy to pick out which ones are the hottest and steal them and take them back to your tribe. When they are all dressed like that, then it makes it harder, you may put in all that work and end up with an old hag.
Not sure why women would want to be reminded of those times.
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Polls for Brexit and the Trump/ Clinton results were actually within the margin of error on the final polls. Le Pen is over 20 points behind with less than a week to go. No way she can win.
That was plus or minus three points meaning a toss- up. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ows-sides-tied Financial Times poll had it 46%- 48%.a YouGov study for the Times had the pro-EU camp ahead 51 percent to 49 percent, after excluding voters who haven’t made up their minds.
Everyone said the same about Brexit and Trump too. There's still days to go and who knows what the effect of the debate will be. Or another "terrorist" incident. It's 20 points difference but of course only a 10% swing puts them dead even. 5% swing gets near the usual margin of error for dead even. That's not much really.
Perhaps the final aggregate of polls showed closer results for Trump/Brexit but it certainly wasn't portrayed that way by the media. As usual, the polls tightened at the last minute once the pollsters dumped their fake narratives in favor of more accurate ratings. I expect the same with french pollsters. We shall see!
Like I said, both are owned but I'm surprised anyone on RPF could ever knowingly support a Rothschild banker like Macron over another candidate.
Last edited by devil21; 05-03-2017 at 08:15 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Trump lost the general election popular vote. Brexit went from 48% to 52%- a two point swing. LePen is down by 20. She needs to gain ten points and the election is Sunday (60% to 40%).
About banking...
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...to-print-moneyPresidential candidate Marine Le Pen’s chief economic adviser Bernard Monot met with Bank of France Governor Francois Villeroy de Galhau in September and set out her party’s plans to take control of the central bank and use it to finance government spending. The meeting took place on the sidelines of Villeroy de Galhau’s public hearing in Brussels at the economic and monetary committee of the European Parliament, Monot, who also sits on the panel, said in a Feb. 4 interview. The Bank of France declined to comment when asked to confirm the meeting. The central bank has become one of Le Pen’s key targets as she fleshes out her plans for taking control of the French economy and leaving the euro. She intends to revoke the Bank of France’s independence and use it to finance French welfare payments and service the government’s debts after abandoning the European monetary union.
http://humanevents.com/2011/11/04/fr...-the-us-right/But the same candidate who wants France out of NATO and the EU made it clear she is not critical of all international organizations, and agreements. Le Pen wants to apply America’s Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, which legally separated investment banking and commercial banking (and was repealed in 1999), to “the banking system of each country,” and supports revival of the Havana Charter, a trade agreement that would have established an international currency and that was rejected by the U.S. in 1951. Le Pen’s mention of the 60-year-old Havana Charter, initially proposed by economist John Maynard Keynes, surprised reporters covering her from both France and the U.S. Although Le Pen considers the Euro “an idiotic currency,” she apparently has no problem with an international currency, because the Havana Charter proposed such a currency, known as the “bancor.” She also praised the charter (which 53 countries signed, but which failed because the U.S. would not sign it) for its “reasonable protectionism that encourages cooperation in trade among nations in order to bring an end to ‘unbridled free trade.’”
Thank you for those links. After reading the quoted sections I have even more belief that Le Pen will win.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
But less enthusiasm for her winning (I hope)?
I don't have enthusiasm for either of them. I don't think voting matters for presidential elections in Rothschild central bank controlled countries.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Fair enough
She has been back and forth on leaving the Euro lately.
https://www.ft.com/content/bc1358a4-...5-23ef563ecf9a
Maybe this is why:What was the policy last week?
Ms Le Pen had previously said that in government she would immediately enter talks with Brussels to push for radical change to the EU’s institutions, including abandoning the euro to re-establish the franc and a national central bank.
She would then, after six months of talks, call a referendum on France’s future in the EU, recommending a “Frexit” if she failed to achieve a satisfactory number of reforms to the political bloc.
What is the policy now?
Over the weekend she seemed to play down the importance of leaving the euro, saying it was not in fact essential to her economic programme and that the “six-month” timetable was not fixed.
On striking an electoral deal on Saturday with the Eurosceptic Nicolas Dupont-Aignan and his Stand up, France party she issued a new mission statement, saying leaving the euro was “not a prerequisite for all economic policy”.
While there is strong support for leaving the euro from within her party, polls suggest that about 70 per cent of French people are against it — partly because they think it will make them poorer.
https://www.ft.com/content/935a7d98-...4-13e067d5072c
In an interview with Le Parisien newspaper on Sunday, she said that her first priority in taking power would be reinstating border controls and stopping factory jobs from moving abroad, not leaving the euro.
“I don’t want chaos, it needs to be done carefully,” she said, adding: “The euro will be the final step because I want to wait for the result of the German election.”
Germany’s vote will take place in September.
Earlier this year, Ms Le Pen attempted to her soften language on what leaving the euro would mean.
She has suggested a “common currency” — similar in structure to the European Currency Unit, or Ecu, that preceded the euro — that would exist in parallel with the franc and be used by big companies and governments.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 05-03-2017 at 08:50 PM.
Worked pretty well for Norway, eh?
Referendum voting to never even get in the European Union in the first place, and of course keep their currency,
control their own resources, and don't have to contribute in quite the same way economically as the "Socialist States of Europe" have to abide by. Not very free market at all really.
Last edited by Jan2017; 05-04-2017 at 06:34 AM.
Sacre bleu Macron! Un hack!
Another Trump/Clinton parallel.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fr...-idUSKBN1820BO
It's almost like they're begging the french people to suspect something. Thou doth protest too much!France sought to keep a computer hack of frontrunner Emmanuel Macron's campaign emails from influencing the outcome of the presidential election, with the electoral commission warning on Saturday that it may be a criminal offense to republish the data.
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"On the eve of the most important election for our institutions, the commission calls on everyone present on internet sites and social networks, primarily the media, but also all citizens, to show responsibility and not to pass on this content, so as not to distort the sincerity of the ballot," the commission said in a statement on Saturday.
Last edited by devil21; 05-06-2017 at 02:00 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
wtf? lol
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It seems that mis-labeling people as racist doesn't shut people up on a libertarian leaning forum as it used to. Now the buzz word is anti-free market.
Example: If you are for your current culture and way of life and are against your women being oppressed into wearing a burka, you are now anti-free market.
...
Oooh, some intrigue and drama in the French election, me like it. The act looks so real, I wonder if Macron and Le Pen are at the back snickering at the people who think there is a real choice between those 2 Zionist candidates Btw, I haven't done much research on Macron but I automatically believe he is one. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
Have not followed French election and don't know much about Macron. But if this helps, saw some pieces of news yesterday suggesting he was endorsed by various zionism supporters including highly controversial Obama.
Emmanuel Macron really wants to be the French Obama.
www.slate.com/
2 days ago
Obama endorses French presidential candidate Macron
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politi...ndorse-macron/
3 days ago
James Woods on Obama: He’s the ‘gift from hell’
The Washington Times Thursday
The latest came this week, in response to a report from British press that revealed the National Security Agency commonly provides Israel with intelligence data — without first stripping out private and personal information on American citizens. The Guardian in London reported the item, the latest in its coverage of document leaks from Edward Snowden.
Mr. Woods unleashed his views of the matter — and of Mr. Obama's role in allowing the practice to occur — on Twitter.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/12/james-woods-obama-hes-gift-hell/
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
Turnout numbers suggest the lowest turnout since the 80's, maybe even the 70's. Will Macron voters show up or will low turnout be used as an excuse for a Le Pen surprise?
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Cleanup!
We really may be alone, aside from some countries like Hungary, who recognize the dangers of the NWO system.
Le Pen isn't really Far Right, but that's how the psychological labeling works. They attempted the same labeling theory with Trump.
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