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  1. #511
    The communists otherwise known as authoritarians now have new populist leaders with almost identical ideas Trump and Bernie! Guess which one is more principled and honest?



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  3. #512
    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    The country is as divided as it's been since the 1860's.
    Couldn't be because so many people are trying to divide and conquer us. Must just be an accident.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    The only group I know of who is attempting to conquer the public is the various strains of Communists which occupy both parties, but which are especially prevalent in the Democratic party.
    Enjoying doing their dirty work for them?

    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    The communists otherwise known as authoritarians now have new populist leaders with almost identical ideas Trump and Bernie! Guess which one is more principled and honest?
    Neither of the above! What did I win?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  5. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    The country is as divided as it's been since the 1860's.

    The only group I know of who is attempting to conquer the public is the various strains of Communists which occupy both parties, but which are especially prevalent in the Democratic party.
    Like I said earlier in the thread I think many of them are here. I would put money many are being paid to post here from moveon.org. The talking points match with every news cycle and in this one trying to silence discussions on Trump.

    No way the little cabal that is advocating the suppression of civil discourse of certain topics are pro-liberty or Paul supporters.
    * See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
    * Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.

  6. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Couldn't be because so many people are trying to divide and conquer us. Must just be an accident.



    Enjoying doing their dirty work for them?
    They do get the good feeling of group affirmation and belonging, not much of a principled feeling.

  7. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    What does that have to do with communism or socialism?
    If you post something on here against Trump, you will get called a communist, socialist, open borders progressive, SJW, etc., depending on what day of the week it is.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  8. #516
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Like I said earlier in the thread I think many of them are here. I would put money many are being paid to post here from moveon.org. The talking points match with every news cycle and in this one trying to silence discussions on Trump.

    No way the little cabal that is advocating the suppression of civil discourse of certain topics are pro-liberty or Paul supporters.
    I don't know. At *best* they're extremely politically confused.

    From Libertarian to Communism is a long walk.

  9. #517
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post



    Neither of the above! What did I win?
    Ding ding ding you win your individual mind and sanity.

  10. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    I don't know. At *best* they're extremely politically confused.

    From Libertarian to Communism is a long walk.
    I think the tactic is to post a little in support of the Pauls and libertarian beliefs to gain some credibility so they can sell their Progressive talking points. Otherwise it would be too obvious. Although this effort to try to suppress discussing Trump in the 2016 candidates forum is way too obvious. That is right out of the moveon - Progressive playbook right now.
    * See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
    * Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.

  11. #519
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  12. #520
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I think the tactic is to post a little in support of the Pauls and libertarian beliefs to gain some credibility so they can sell their Progressive talking points. Otherwise it would be too obvious. Although this effort to try to suppress discussing Trump in the 2016 candidates forum is way too obvious. That is right out of the moveon - Progressive playbook right now.
    lol,..it been hilarious watching them condemn an African American Trump supporter who hit a protester wearing a Klan hood.



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  14. #521
    It's pretty simple these days. They usually have a "Feel the Bern" bumper sticker.

    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post

  15. #522
    What we are asked NOT to do is PROMOTE Trump as the president candidate.
    What about work against? Slander? Report false stories taken from msm without researching the veracity. All of the stories posted on this site about the so called violence by trump supporters...there's the black man who beat up the white man who spit on him...there's Trump's manager pulling a protester by the shirt collar, but he was actually keeping the guy from grabbing and manhandling a young girl..only other violence was the white guy who punched somebody, don't know what caused that for sure but the demonstrators were throwing the finger in people's faces...let's see, there's the fabricated story by the Breitbart reporter, proven false...so, that's 4 incidences....all with a story not reported by the msm...and this site reports on them and never clarifies...and encourages the misconception promoted by the msm that it is the Trump supporters who are violent...why is that ok?

    The other issue is definition of promote...not at all black and white...pretty gray...very vague. It's ok, not my site and I'm somewhat of a newbie here...don't have much of a say, but saying it anyway.

  16. #523
    Anything this popular wether it be MSM stories or the goings on at trump rallies is complete BS, fabricated or knowingly instigated BS. No point in trying to find truth or reason in it, besides the obvious diabolical plan.

  17. #524
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Like I said earlier in the thread I think many of them are here. I would put money many are being paid to post here from moveon.org. The talking points match with every news cycle and in this one trying to silence discussions on Trump.

    No way the little cabal that is advocating the suppression of civil discourse of certain topics are pro-liberty or Paul supporters.
    I tend to concur. They are a too motivated, a too voluminous, and studiously stave off any and all attempts to be reasonable with them.

    And there's a suspicious lack of actual activity towards the cause of liberty in their ranks.

  18. #525
    Maybe we can shine the light on these communist subversives within our ranks with well reasoned discussion and thought? Or maybe we should just drink pure grain alcohol and avoid the women trying to take our essential essence?

  19. #526
    Man I miss 2007 when it was just Ron Paul guys on here and the operatives had not started full on Astro turf operations.

  20. #527
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    I tend to concur. They are a too motivated, a too voluminous, and studiously stave off any and all attempts to be reasonable with them.

    And there's a suspicious lack of actual activity towards the cause of liberty in their ranks.
    You mentioned that you'd vote for Hitler, right?

    How does that, or whoring for Donald Trump, equate to promoting liberty?
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  21. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    Man I miss 2007 when it was just Ron Paul guys on here and the operatives had not started full on Astro turf operations.
    me too



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  23. #529
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    You mentioned that you'd vote for Hitler, right?

    How does that, or whoring for Donald Trump, equate to promoting liberty?
    Thats pretty ironic, considering his "social justice warrior" mentality around his religion.

  24. #530
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    You mentioned that you'd vote for Hitler, right?

    How does that, or whoring for Donald Trump, equate to promoting liberty?
    The Germans took politics a little more seriously after Hitler.

  25. #531
    Quote Originally Posted by P3ter_Griffin View Post
    The Germans took politics a little more seriously after Hitler.
    You're arguing the benefits for Germany because of Hitler's rise to power?

    And furthermore, what exactly are you referring to? They won't elect another national socialist? Maybe a few here should learn that fire is hot without having to touch it?
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  26. #532
    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    Man I miss 2007 when it was just Ron Paul guys on here and the operatives had not started full on Astro turf operations.
    Speaking of Astro turf, where'd you come from? I don't remember ever seeing you post before these past few weeks. Whose sock puppet are you?

  27. #533
    Quote Originally Posted by thoughtomator View Post
    Speaking of Astro turf, where'd you come from? I don't remember ever seeing you post before these past few weeks. Whose sock puppet are you?
    What about you?

  28. #534
    I don't post much, but I've been a consistent supporter of the Paul's , even though I was labeled a dissenter for not being enthused about rands establishment camouflage.

    Maybe you remember







    I like doing things rather then posting. I won the Big Island for Ron Paul in 2012.
    Last edited by afwjam; 03-20-2016 at 04:59 PM.

  29. #535
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    You're arguing the benefits for Germany because of Hitler's rise to power?

    And furthermore, what exactly are you referring to? They won't elect another national socialist? Maybe a few here should learn that fire is hot without having to touch it?
    Nothing of the sorts. I'm just saying a principle that is well known, the government is the government's own worst enemy. The government's actions are what causes people to oppose it. And I'd argue a government's intents can also do the same. So I can see the logic that, if you are able to prevent the harm from being done, promoting a government that intends to do actions that would cause people to oppose it can be done to promote liberty.

  30. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by P3ter_Griffin View Post
    Nothing of the sorts. I'm just saying a principle that is well known, the government is the government's own worst enemy. The government's actions are what causes people to oppose it. And I'd argue a government's intents can also do the same. So I can see the logic that, if you are able to prevent the harm from being done, promoting a government that intends to do actions that would cause people to oppose it can be done to promote liberty.
    And how is one to prevent the harm from being done?

    Is it possible?
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump



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  32. #537
    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    I don't post much, but I've been a consistent supporter of the Paul's , even though I was labeled a dissenter for not being enthused about rands establishment camouflage.

    Maybe you remember







    I like doing things rather then posting. I won the Big Island for Ron Paul in 2012.
    Good job, then.

    I give you credit for getting off your butt and getting something done. Puts you in rare company here.

  33. #538
    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    I hope any Trump supporters feel as uncomfortable posting here as would Romney, Hillary, Cruz, Rubio, Obama, etc... supporters. A lot of people don't like Liberty, but this is the Liberty Forest and non of the aforementioned belong.
    That pretty well sums it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    The butthurt continues.....
    The Trumpbots posting in this thread are doing a fine job demonstrating why the new policy's needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by squirl22 View Post
    There were a lot of people actively supporting Cruz while Rand was still running...why was that ok?
    I can recall a few isolated posts, nothing remotely approaching the Trumpmania that's plagued this forum for the last 6 months.

    In any event, there's a discussion ongoing right now about whether to restrict Cruz promotion (I say yes, restrict it).

    ...only academic at this point, though, as there is no real Cruz promotion, but that could change and it's best to be prepared.

    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    Man I miss 2007 when it was just Ron Paul guys on here and the operatives had not started full on Astro turf operations.
    The price of growth


  34. #539
    Quote Originally Posted by Champuckett View Post
    This decision has nothing to do with free speech or freedom. I'm sure this has already been reiterated 20 times in this thread alone, but I guess it has to be made perfectly clear.
    *sigh* Big issue with those left in these forums, no one listens or seems to comprehend things that are stated. Some of you are so God damn hard headed, NOTHING penetrates!!! Of course there is no free speech here, BECAUSE it is a privately owned forum, and has national users that are not bound by the Constitution. So allow me to rinse and repeat and see if you hard headed die hards can comprehend...

    The blatant quashing of free speech on a forum that was founded on it, is just sad.
    It is quashing free speech on a private forum that supposedly stemmed from Libertarianism and rooted in the Constitution, which has that whole damned First Amendment clause in it. As I said, the forums are Bryan's to so with as he pleases. I guess you guys missed that part as well. I flat our stated I support his decision to make bad choices, and he is more than welcome to run these forums into the ground, if he so chooses. A guy that supports freedom of choice, imagine that.

    On the subject of privately owned, the RNC is as well. This is why they can nominate and promote whomever they like and change the rules on the fly as they do. I also support their right to make bad decisions and run the Republican party into the ground, if they so desire. Again, a guy that supports freedom of choice.

    Unlike so many of you here, I actually adopt and adhere to a more Libertarian, free thought, freedom to choose, mentality then the closed minded we hate Trump bunch that have plagued these forums. Yea those who support Trump are wrong, for a plethora of reasons. Stating in a private forum that they are not allowed to discuss or promote him in a positive manner, will most likely not change their minds. And if promoting him, they are able to sway any of the rest of you, then I would clearly have to question your integrity and fortitude and that you were ever a true liberty minded American in the first place.

    Just stop acting like a bunch of feeble minded pussies. These forums have a great ignore feature, I have used it for many here that I simply do not wish to view posts from any longer. WOW! Freedom to choose who to ignore...you gotta love it!
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    "I am convinced that there are more threats to American liberty within the 10 mile radius of my office on Capitol Hill than there are on the rest of the globe." -- Ron Paul

  35. #540
    Trump's campaign is destructive to the site mission. Ignoring it doesn't stop the destruction.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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