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    Selling Your Privacy On Facebook - Wall Street Journal

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

    Not so long ago, there was a familiar product called software. It was sold in stores, in shrink-wrapped boxes. When you bought it, all that you gave away was your credit card number or a stack of bills.

    Now there are "apps"—stylish, discrete chunks of software that live online or in your smartphone. To "buy" an app, all you have to do is click a button. Sometimes they cost a few dollars, but many apps are free, at least in monetary terms. You often pay in another way. Apps are gateways, and when you buy an app, there is a strong chance that you are supplying its developers with one of the most coveted commodities in today's economy: personal data.

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    Im sure most of you dont care. But that isnt the point. The point is that even if you use Privacy Settings on your Facebook acct, if you talk about your friend on Facebook, those kinds of posts are not covered by the Privacy Settings. Hey wait a sec? Who gave you permission to decide for someone else what some other company is going to do with that data?

    And for those of you that "do nothing wrong", remember the word "Wrong" is a Subjective Term. If you drink "Pepsi", then in the eyes of "Coke", you are doing something wrong. Or, if you are Jewish, in the eyes of a Baptist, you are doing something wrong. The extent that the information is being "used against you" may or may not be as extreme as life and death, but to treat you like a Resource to be Harvested. You earn money, which, to them, is the Harvestable Resource you are after. And guess what. Advertising is alive because it is effective. Do you think that personalized Advertising will result in Less Ads for you, or a whole slew of more effective ones? Since you drink Pepsi, I'll be sure to show you an ad that says Pepsi is on sale so you are more inclined to buy Pepsi. But if Coke was on sale, showing you an ad for Coke would be ineffective, so lets market to you some other product you have purchased before. So, by showing you personalized ads, you are now going to spend money you dont have on crap you dont need. Congratulations! You've just been Harvested. And when you are Depleted, bankrupt, dried up and used up, you will be disposed of. But, you didnt "do anything wrong".
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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    I care.

    Which is why you don't see me on Farcebook, or using a "smart" phone, among many other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post


    You're probably more likely to find people who care here than most other places.

    Personally, I've started to become more vocal on facebook because keeping quiet and shutting up about an emerging police state just isn't very effective.
    We have allies many of you are not aware of. Watch the tube. Show this to your 30 and under friends. Listen to it. Even if you don't like rap, it has 2.7 million views.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmBnvajSfWU#t=0m16s

    Cut off one min early to avoid war porn.

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    There is something more effective than Facebook. Talking to people in Real Life. Go find one of your Facebook buddies in Real Life when they go on vacation, and say "Thank you for telling me that you are on vacation, now I know you wont be home so I can break into your home while you are on vacation and steal your TV, Refrigerator, Car, Dishwasher, but Im gonna leave your Wii (that I know you have) because it is a piece of crap." and see how they respond.

    The abuse that the Lack of Privacy provides the potential for may not always come from a Government or Corporation.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    I really don't see a problem with this. If you care so much about keeping your privacy, then don't post personal information publicly on a privately-owned website!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xhin View Post
    I really don't see a problem with this. If you care so much about keeping your privacy, then don't post personal information publicly on a privately-owned website!
    That isnt quite the problem. The problem is the Implied Concent that is assumed by All Companies. Just because I borrowed your Weedwhacker doesnt mean that every $#@!ing weedwhacker manufacturer needs to start showing me ads for their crappy products. I am not Imlying Concent by telling you my weedwhacker is busted to allow Advertisers to Track me in ANY FORM OF ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION. Advertising is persuasion to get me to spend money I dont have on $#@! I dont need. And it isnt just about Farcebook. Its about Advertisers and Manufacturers treating you like a consumable resource, that, when exhausted, is to be disposed of as quickly as possible.
    Last edited by DamianTV; 04-08-2012 at 02:36 PM.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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