Sanders campaign worker: "There's a reason Stalin had gulags...to re-educate you"

[Krugminator2]

It wasn't just you. There were several threads on the issue and other people also chimed in on how Scandinavia countries were actually capitalist in spite of all their welfare programs.

Yeah I never said Norway is more capitalistic than the US, so it was never me. And probably not anyone else.

Then you completely shifted the goalpost to people saying Scandavian countries are capitalist countries. That is true statement. That is radically different from your first claim. And you conflate the most socialistic Scandavian country Norway with Denmark because you are fundamentally dishonest.

Why be so dishonest? And why continue comparing Scandavian countries to Venezuela when an avalanche if counterpoint always get presented that show how different they are?

[juleswin]

Yeah I never said Norway is more capitalistic than the US, so it was never me. And probably not anyone else.

Then you completely shifted the goalpost to people saying Scandavian countries are capitalist countries. That is true statement. That is radically different from your first claim. And you conflate the most socialistic Scandavian country Norway with Denmark because you are fundamentally dishonest.

Why be so dishonest? And why continue comparing Scandavian countries to Venezuela when an avalanche if counterpoint always get presented that show how different they are?

I use Norway because I know its the one Scandinavian country that has majority stake ownership in their oil company. I am really sorry if I gave the impression that you used Norway instead of Denmark. This thread I am referring happened a while and I don't think its all that crazy to think if I got some of the details wrong. If I did then I truly apologize.

I bring up Norway because they seem to have a higher income tax rate than Venezuela(which makes sense because they provide way more social programs than Venezuela), socialized medicine, free post secondary education and pension system all indications that make people scream socialism . Plus war times condition tend to make govt prioritize safety over efficient economic policies,, so I wouldn't hold them on the missteps they have taken during this period of hostility with the US

[Krugminator2]

I bring up Norway because they seem to have a higher income tax rate than Venezuela(which makes sense because they provide way more social programs than Venezuela), socialized medicine, free post secondary education and pension system all indications that make people scream socialism . Plus war times condition tend to make govt prioritize safety over efficient economic policies,, so I wouldn't hold them on the missteps they have taken during this period of hostility with the US

If Venezuela is more economically free, why did the Venezuelan stock market trade at low single digit PE ratios going all the way back to the early 2000s? Why would people not want to invest in Venezuela but invest in Norway? Real puzzler isn't it? Investors could have really used your posts to tell them that there is nothing to worry about. Venezuela and Norway are exactly the same.

Here is a headline from 2002 "Capital Flight Hits Venezuela; IMF Lowers Fiscal Forecast"https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1019168278472139840


Why is capital flight not a problem for Norway? Why did Venezuela have interest rates of 44%? "The central bank lowered its discount rate to 42% from 44% Thursday."

Here is from 2008 ""Venezuelan Capital Flight Reaches Record"https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...reaches-record


"Despite strict currency controls adopted in 2004 by President Hugo Chávez's government to limit the outflow of money"

Do economically free countries have to put currency controls, price controls, and have to raise interest rates to 50%?

I wonder why Norway never had to do these things. They are after all just like Venezuela according to you. I wonder why they are ranked relatively free in all of the economic freedom indices but Venezuela is ranked almost at the bottom. Must be racism. All I can think of.

[James_Madison_Lives]

And one stoned field organizer's idiocy is important why?

[juleswin]

If Venezuela is more economically free, why did the Venezuelan stock market trade at low single digit PE ratios going all the way back to the early 2000s? Why would people not want to invest in Venezuela but invest in Norway? Real puzzler isn't it? Investors could have really used your posts to tell them that there is nothing to worry about. Venezuela and Norway are exactly the same.

Here is a headline from 2002 "Capital Flight Hits Venezuela; IMF Lowers Fiscal Forecast"https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1019168278472139840


Why is capital flight not a problem for Norway? Why did Venezuela have interest rates of 44%? "The central bank lowered its discount rate to 42% from 44% Thursday."

Here is from 2008 ""Venezuelan Capital Flight Reaches Record"https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...reaches-record


"Despite strict currency controls adopted in 2004 by President Hugo Chávez's government to limit the outflow of money"

Do economically free countries have to put currency controls, price controls, and have to raise interest rates to 50%?

I wonder why Norway never had to do these things. They are after all just like Venezuela according to you. I wonder why they are ranked relatively free in all of the economic freedom indices but Venezuela is ranked almost at the bottom. Must be racism. All I can think of.

One is in peace time period, the other has US plotting coups and military action. This is my whole argument, remove US interference and policies and results will be much different.

[Swordsmyth]

And one stoned field organizer's idiocy is important why?

Because they haven't fired him and he is typical of the supporters and staff and the candidate himself.

[Swordsmyth]

One is in peace time period, the other has US plotting coups and military action. This is my whole argument, remove US interference and policies and results will be much different.

The world is always full of enemies trying to undermine you, if your system can't resist them it isn't any good.

And the system does more damage than the enemies.

[nikcers]

One is in peace time period, the other has US plotting coups and military action. This is my whole argument, remove US interference and policies and results will be much different.

Remove influence from world powers and most of these socialist walled gardens don't exist. The United States can't stop influencing other nations without joining the red matrix. The democrats want to bend over backwards not to offend China. Obama literally wanted to pretend China didn't exist. Trump actually cares about liberty and that means interfering with puppet states.

[Swordsmyth]

[Danke]

bernie bernie bernie!

[tommyrp12]

[Sammy]

He should be careful.I'm a Gun Owner

[EBounding]

A low-level communist doofus. This will be long forgotten in a few days. Another O'Keefe dud.

I barely remember saying this.

[Anti Globalist]

I wonder what fancy name Sanders will be calling these gulags if he actually gets elected.

[AngryCanadian]

Sanders is far to crazy for my liking dispute his stances on the endless wars.

[TomtheTinker]

I wonder what fancy name Sanders will be calling these gulags if he actually gets elected.

Don't you worry, these aren't gulags, they're democratic gulags.

[Swordsmyth]

I wonder what fancy name Sanders will be calling these gulags if he actually gets elected.

Vocational Education and Training Centers

[Swordsmyth]

[eleganz]

Just here for an update, does Juleswin still believe these gulag loving commies still only want innocent and cute scandinavian socialism for America?

[misterx]

These people mean business. If they ever get the civil war they want they are going to regret it. They can only win with the power of government.

[timosman]

[juleswin]

Just here for an update, does Juleswin still believe these gulag loving commies still only want innocent and cute scandinavian socialism for America?

I don't trust politicians but I know for sure they don't want communism or plan on bringing back the gulags.

[timosman]

I don't trust politicians but I know for sure they don't want communism or plan on bringing back the gulags.

That's very reassuring. Thank you so much!

[eleganz]

I don't trust politicians but I know for sure they don't want communism or plan on bringing back the gulags.

Here I'm talking about "gulag loving commies" and then you quote me and talk about politicians. Why? Because you don't want to admit to the existence of commies that blatantly justify mass extinction for the successful? Maybe watch the project veritas expose series again. Or maybe just watch any Bernie Bro ANTIFA assault on innocent people.

You either have your head in the sand about who these people really are or you are truly the commie loving Bernie voter that you are leading us to believe. You just never cease to stop making the case.

[juleswin]

Here I'm talking about "gulag loving commies" and then you quote me and talk about politicians. Why?

See, a commie that blatantly justifying mass extinction for the successful.

An unverified twitter handle that goes by socialdemocracyrox saying crazy stuff about mass killing. I am sure you will also believe it when a twitter handle named ronpaul4 prez that talking about how it should be legal for parents to sell their children in the free market. False identity posting don't ever happen on the internet

Sorry but I just assumed the gulag loving commies you are refereeing to were communists. Still don't see communism or gulags in the US's future

[eleganz]

An unverified twitter handle that goes by socialdemocracyrox saying crazy stuff about mass killing. I am sure you will also believe it when a twitter handle named ronpaul4 prez that talking about how it should be legal for parents to sell their children in the free market. False identity posting don't ever happen on the internet

Sorry but I just assumed the gulag loving commies you are refereeing to were communists. Still don't see communism or gulags in the US's future

Classic deflection.

Don't even bother quoting me if you can't handle the debate.

[juleswin]

Classic deflection.

Don't even bother quoting me if you can't handle the debate.

Oops, I meant to say

Sorry but I just assumed the gulag loving commies you are refereeing to were communists the politicians not the powerless and often ignored supporters *. Does that help?

[Swordsmyth]

Oops, I meant to say

Sorry but I just assumed the gulag loving commies you are refereeing to were communists the politicians not the powerless and often ignored supporters *. Does that help?

Fortunately we have recordings of paid Bernie staffers saying the same things and they weren't fired afterwards.

[timosman]

Oops, I meant to say

Sorry but I just assumed the gulag loving commies you are refereeing to were communists the politicians not the powerless and often ignored supporters *. Does that help?

Nope, you should have used the "it was just a joke" line.

[juleswin]

Fortunately we have recordings of paid Bernie staffers saying the same things and they weren't fired afterwards.

Evidence they weren't fired? I will be shocked if they were still working after saying what they said. They should have at least fired if only to save face