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WMUR is reporting that an FBI K-9 unit was called out to hospital to sniff for bombs during protest.
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"They sell us the president the same way they sell us our clothes and our cars. They sell us every thing from youth to religion the same time they sell us our wars. I want to know who the men in the shadows are. I want to hear somebody asking them why. They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are but theyre never the ones to fight or to die." - Jackson Browne Lives In The Balance
YES THIS IS about the father's political activities and also the parents being gun owners.
This is a political hit by kidnapping in order to terrorize and intimidate patriots. THAT IS ALL THAT THIS IS ABOUT.
These social workers are malignant statists who do this $#@! all over the country.
This is TYPICAL of these criminals:
San Diego, CA (PRWEB) June 18, 2010
A California Appellate Court found this week against Orange County and its Social Services Agency, and Affirmed what is called a “Substantial” damages award arising from a Civil Rights Verdict obtained in May 2007.
After in depth review of extensive briefs and a complex record, Division Three of the Fourth District Court of Appeal for the State of California issues its opinion today affirming an Orange County jury’s verdict awarding Deanna Fogarty-Hardwick approximately $4.9 million against the County of Orange, and two of its social workers.
In its opinion, the Court of Appeal voiced its concerns over what happened to Ms. Fogarty-Hardwick: “Stated plainly, the outcome of this case cannot be dismissed as merely the unfortunate product of a runaway jury. The evidence adduced at trial obviously caused both the jury and the judge to conclude not only that something seriously wrong was done to Fogarty-Hardwick in this case, but also that the wrongful conduct was not an isolated incident. That conclusion is something the County should be taking very seriously.”
The underlying case was filed by Deanna Fogarty-Hardwick against the County of Orange in February 2001. The suit alleged that Orange County, social worker Marcia Vreeken and her supervisor Helen Dwojak violated Ms. Fogarty-Hardwick’s constitutional rights to raise and associate with her children free from governmental interference.
On March 23,2007 an Orange County Jury found against Orange County, social worker Marcia Vreeken, and social worker supervisor Helen Dwojak and awarded monetary damages of $4.9 million. A third social worker, Elaine Wilkins was found not liable.
Lead attorney Shawn A. McMillan states: “Ms. Fogarty is very pleased with the Court of Appeal’s decision to uphold the verdict. This case encompasses extremely important issues for the people of Orange County, and the People of the State of California. Allegations of social worker misconduct of the type proven in this case is "ubiquitous" as admitted in an Amicus Brief filed by the California Association of Counties. Hopefully, the 52 counties that belong to the association will take note of the outcome of this case and promulgate policies to prevent their social workers from engaging in this type of conduct in the future.”
San Diego Lawyer Shawn A. McMillan, of the Law Offices of Shawn A.
McMillan, was lead trial counsel in the case, and the lead
appellate attorney. Attorney Sondra Sutherland was co-counsel at trial and assisted on the appeal.
RE: Fogarty-Hardwick v. County of Orange, et al.
Superior Court of California, County of Orange
Case No. 01CC02379 (Trial before Hon. Ronald L. Bauer, Dept. CX103)
http://www.prweb.com/releases/Fogart...web4157254.htm
Sorry I'm behind on all of this. I can't keep up with all of the forums I'm on.
I just heard Alex Jones say that New Hampshire is moving to TERMINATE the mother's parental rights.
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I have found no convictions of anything. I heard allegations, Apparently he had a Concealed Carry.
But some questionable bust that is being contested. a technicality that is being called weapons violations..
I believe the term I am looking for is character assassination .
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It's premature to draw a lot of speculative conclusions. The parents need to release the backstory. For now, I support the baby. The state needs some serious charges and overwhelming evidence to deny a newborn breastfeeding and parental TLC. CPS is a nationwide scam and all current and future parents need to be aware of its misdeeds.
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Bomb-Sniffing Dogs Check Hospital During Protest
Demonstrators Protest After DCYF Seizes Newborn
POSTED: 6:14 pm EDT October 8, 2010
CONCORD, N.H. -- FBI bomb-sniffing dogs were at Concord Hospital on Friday after demonstrators gathered to protest a newborn being removed from her mother's care by the state.
The hospital said there was no threat made, but it was taking precautions in part to reassure staff and patients.
http://www.wmur.com/news/25332217/detail.html
"Keep politics out of protecting our children."
http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I read over 390 posts on this thread and I still do not have enough information.
I saw the one PDF that says these folk have had a few run-ins with the cops before. I'd like a lot more detailed information before making any sort of conclusion about this case.
Assuming this couple are either angels or demons seem like really poor assumptions at this point as the whole matter is developing.
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The father is supposed to be on,
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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
Association in this case would be that if he was part of a militia they would naturally assume that he had weapons to become involved.
I have a very jaded attitute toward county law having a son that was railroaded in highschool so the county could pad the numbers of an "exploding juvenile crime wave" all because they were trying to get a state grant for a new juvy hall.
I still try and stay objective though
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This reminds me of Charles Dyer and all the people who scurried off from supporting him because the State accused him of all sorts of stuff that were ridiculous. Let us give the shadow of the doubt to the non-State person, ok?
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I think it matters.
The charge being made is that his association with Oath Keepers was used as a reason (among other reasons) for taking their baby. If the only document that mentions that is the change of venue form, then that's not true. And, apart from the mischaracterization of Oath Keepers as a militia, I haven't seen anyone explain why the mention of Oath Keepers on that document would be such a big deal.
But everything I said in the above paragraph is assuming that it really is the case that the change of venue form was the one on which that information appeared, which it is looking more and more like that's not the case.
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"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
I need an education in US history, from the ground up. Can you help point me to a comprehensive, unbiased, scholarly resource?Originally Posted by President John F. Kennedy
Oath Keepers, or not (it seems like not), the state was retarded for taking away a baby from a young mother like that after she gave birth. Justified or not in the protests, I"m glad its getting the attention it is now for exposing corrupt practices imo
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I still have heard no reason why the child was taken from the mother. The mother did nothing to the child. At what point can the govt abolish the natural right to conceive birth?
Anybody in the MD/DE/VA area going to New Hampshire to join in the protest? If so than I would be very interested in tagging along if that is o.k.
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designed to make of their victory,
there would have been no surrender at
Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
with my brave men, my sword in my right hand." - Robert E. Lee to Governor Fletcher S. Stockdale (D-Texas), 1870
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