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    NYC braces for fewer cops, more trash as vax deadline looms

    NYC is about to get Ugly(er).

    https://apnews.com/article/coronavir...e144aa59436590


    NEW YORK (AP) — Mounting trash. Closed firehouses. Fewer police and ambulances on the street.

    That’s the possibility New York City is bracing for come Monday as a COVID-19 vaccine mandate looms and thousands of municipal workers remain unwilling to get the shots.

    Police officers, firefighters, garbage collectors and most other city workers face a 5 p.m. Friday deadline to show proof they’ve gotten at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine.

    Workers who don’t comply will be put on unpaid leave starting Monday.

    Mayor Bill de Blasio held firm on the mandate as firefighters rallied Thursday outside his official residence, sanitation workers appeared to be skipping garbage pick ups in protest and the city’s largest police union went to an appeals court seeking a halt to the vaccine requirement.

    Pat Lynch, president of the Police Benevolent Association, said the hard deadline “sets the city up for a real crisis.” Andrew Ansbro, president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, warned longer response times will “be a death sentence to some people.”

    De Blasio said Thursday that the city has contingencies to maintain adequate staffing and public safety, including mandatory overtime and extra shifts — tools that he said were typically used “in times of challenging crisis.”

    The mayor called the sanitation slowdowns “unacceptable” and said the department will move to 12-hour and Sunday shifts to ensure trash doesn’t pile up.

    “My job is to keep people safe — my employees, and 8.8 million people,” de Blasio said at a virtual news briefing. “And until we defeat COVID, people are not safe. If we don’t stop COVID, New Yorkers will die.” <Yeah, no concern about those who die because of his fatwas, though...>

    People who refuse to get vaccinated are now a big factor in the continued spread of the virus. Backers of mandates say New Yorkers have a right not to be infected by public servants unwilling to get the shots. <But if they get infected from someone who's been jabbed - that's ok??>

    Nearly one-quarter of city employees covered by the impending mandate have yet to receive at least one vaccine dose as of Thursday, including 26% of police personnel, 29% of firefighters and EMS workers and 33% of sanitation workers, according to city data. City jail guards have another month to comply.

    The fire department said it was prepared to close up to 20% of its fire companies and have 20% fewer ambulances in service while changing schedules, canceling vacations and turning to outside EMS providers to make up for expected staffing shortages.

    “The department must manage the unfortunate fact that a portion of our workforce has refused to comply with a vaccine mandate for all city employees,” Fire Commissioner Daniel Nigro said.

    Police Commissioner Dermot Shea, who had COVID-19 in January, said his department was sending reminders to workers whose records indicated they hadn’t yet received a shot and that NYPD vaccination sites will remain open all weekend.

    More than 700 officers were vaccinated on Thursday alone, the NYPD said, rushing to meet the deadline for the mandate and an extra incentive: workers who get a shot by Friday will get $500.

    “On Monday, when this thing really starts being enforced, we’re going to check the vaccination status and if you’re not vaccinated, no pay and you’re going to be not able to work,” Shea said in a video message Wednesday to officers. “I don’t think anyone wants that to happen. I don’t think you want it to happen. I certainly don’t. We need you out there.”

    Fire department officials are holding virtual meetings with staff, imploring them to get vaccinated.

    A Staten Island judge on Wednesday refused a police union’s request for a temporary block on the mandate, but she ordered city officials into her courtroom next month to explain why the requirement shouldn’t be reversed. If the mandate is deemed illegal, workers put on leave will be given back pay, the city said.

    Mike Salsedo, 44, was among hundreds of firefighters protesting Thursday outside de Blasio’s residence, Gracie Mansion. He said he believes he has natural immunity to COVID-19 after having the disease last year and doesn’t need to be vaccinated, a stance that’s contrary to the consensus among public health experts. <Wait - what?! Sorry, AP... You're going to have to produce these "experts">

    “I’m a man of faith, and I don’t believe that putting something manmade into my body is good,” Salsedo said.

    Another firefighter, Jackie-Michelle Martinez, said the ability to choose was “our God-given right” as she questioned the city’s decision to move away from its previous policy, which allowed workers to stay on the job if they had a negative COVID-19 test.

    “If the weekly testing is working, why are you, Mayor de Blasio, eliminating it?” she asked.

    COVID-19 is the leading cause of death of law enforcement officers in the U.S., killing 498 officers since the start of 2020 compared to 102 gun deaths, according to the Officer Down Memorial Page, which tracks police fatalities.

    De Blasio on Thursday credited the impending deadline for moving the needle on vaccinations across city government. In the last week, the number of affected workers who’ve gotten at least one dose rose from 71% to 76%.

    When the state required all workers at hospitals and nursing homes to get vaccinated, a last-minute rush of people to comply meant that few facilities experienced staffing challenges.

    “We expected that a lot of the vaccinations would happen toward the end of the deadline,” de Blasio said. “We also know a lot of people make the decision once they really realize that they’re not going to get paid. That’s just the human reality.” <You mean after you cut off their livelihood??!>
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire



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    Vaccinated just as likely to spread delta variant within household as unvaccinated: study

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ccinated-study

    BY CAROLINE VAKIL - 10/29/21 09:07 AM EDT

    People who have received COVID-19 vaccinations are able to spread the delta variant within their household despite their vaccination status just as easily as unvaccinated individuals, a new study published on Friday shows.

    According to the study published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal, people who contracted COVID-19 had a similar viral load regardless of whether they had been vaccinated. The study further found that 25 percent of vaccinated household contacts contracted COVID-19. while 38 percent of unvaccinated individuals were diagnosed with the disease.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    These people are retarded . Let them wallow in filth.
    Do something Danke

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    “And until we defeat COVID, people are not safe. If we don’t stop COVID, New Yorkers will die.”

    Same old song and dance. Funny how the police are so willing to enforce the fatwa's handed down by these clowns until it applies directly to them.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    These people are retarded . Let them wallow in filth.
    Only the elected politicians are. Their bosses are the opposite. Too smart for Americans to keep up with.
    Too crafty for the American populace to stop. This will be clear after the violent times ahead.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    Can't wait to see how much crime goes up in NYC because of this. Chicago eliminated half of their police force last week. I'm sure the weekend following that was real bloody.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 10-29-2021 at 11:11 AM.
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    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Funny how the police are so willing to enforce the fatwa's handed down by these clowns until it applies directly to them.
    https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucusTX/...92528192901139
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    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
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      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

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    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post

    Of course they will. Does anyone really believe otherwise?
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Of course they will. Does anyone really believe otherwise?
    Just doing their job. You can't blame them, they don't make the laws.

    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    “And until we defeat COVID, people are not safe. If we don’t stop COVID, New Yorkers will die.”

    Same old song and dance. Funny how the police are so willing to enforce the fatwa's handed down by these clowns until it applies directly to them.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko
    ^^^this^^^

    Is how people learn. Nobody gives a $#@! until its on them.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Here we go again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Funny how the police are so willing to enforce the fatwa's handed down by these clowns until it applies directly to them.
    https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucusTX/...92528192901139
    https://twitter.com/BuckSexton/statu...09292669677575

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