+Rep for the hat tip to the winged Hussars. If Vienna would have fallen in the 15 or 1600s we would have been as screwed as the Byzantine Empire. It's a shame that that history is no longer taught. Pierzstix (one of the few people I was glad to see banned) actually called the Greek and Armenian genocide blowback after initially denying it, and called me a despicable liar when I said that Europe would have fallen into a dark age if Vienna had fallen. There is great and seething hatred for all the good that Western Civilization has produced.
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