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  1. #31
    I guess I'll celebrate Cliven Bundy's victory against the BLM.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    I guess I'll celebrate Cliven Bundy's victory against the BLM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by dude58677 View Post
    I guess I'll celebrate Cliven Bundy's victory against the BLM.
    Good idea!
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    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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  6. #34
    I guess I'll also celebrate all the State Nullification laws being passed, the Gold Standard in Utah, having someone like Ron and Rand around esp in times like these, etc.

  7. #35

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    The last July 4 parade I went to (a few years ago) reminded me of the old news reels from Nazi Germany.

    all the flag waving and cheering of the military,, and blatant nationalism and rampant socialism.

    It put me in a mood I never recovered from.



    Be this guy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser
    +rep, I've seen that photo before but never knew the guy's name, thanks for sharing
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    If a face could launch a thousand ships...



    I had to do it! Love this song btw

    Happy 4th everyone! I'll spend this day aspiring to be like the people who freed us from tyranny and birthed this nation.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  10. #38
    "When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right."
    ~ Victor Hugo

    "There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world, and that is an idea whose time as come."
    ~ Victor Hugo
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  11. #39
    I think the thing to ask ourselves is yes we did lose a lot of freedoms but who has the momentum? The freedom movement or the progressives? The last few years demonstrate that momentum shifted towards the freedom movement. There is Cliven Bundy and also the Gold Standard in Utah, etc.
    Last edited by dude58677; 07-04-2014 at 09:20 AM.

  12. #40
    don't forget.....the progressive marxists will..and are..mobilizing as we speak...we have to crank it up....$#@!s getting real....step up, or get the hell out of the way...



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  14. #41
    Just got back from my local 4th parade. There were no less than 3 groups of veterans marching. Every time, everyone as far as I could see got up on their feet and clapped. I was the only one sitting (other than my boy sitting on my lap). Blech.

    I wonder if I could get the local Campaign for Liberty to march next year.
    Non-violence is the creed of those that maintain a monopoly on force.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    The last July 4 parade I went to (a few years ago) reminded me of the old news reels from Nazi Germany.

    all the flag waving and cheering of the military,, and blatant nationalism and rampant socialism.

    It put me in a mood I never recovered from.



    Be this guy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser
    That mood gets reinforced for me at concerts, at parks, and restaurants, and even driving though my neighborhood.

    So many flag-wavers, usa-chanters, World-Cup/Olympics-rooters-just-because-a-team-shares-MY-flag, and blind-pride-troop supporters.

    They're everywhere, and that picture flashes through my head at least 5 times a day.
    "You cannot solve these problems with war." - Ron Paul

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by mczerone View Post
    That mood gets reinforced for me at concerts, at parks, and restaurants, and even driving though my neighborhood.

    So many flag-wavers, usa-chanters, World-Cup/Olympics-rooters-just-because-a-team-shares-MY-flag, and blind-pride-troop supporters.

    They're everywhere, and that picture flashes through my head at least 5 times a day.
    And it is not easy to "Be That Guy".

    Going along with the crowd is always easier and usually more fun.

    But I try, every single day.

    Be that guy.

  17. #44
    Misconceptions about "the Fourth"

    1) It's NOT "America's Birthday"

    First, "America" is not a government. America is a landmass, specifically everything from Greenland and Nunavut in the North, down to Argentina and the Faukland Islands in the south. Part of America is North America. Part of North America is arbitrarily claimed by the United States. That's what you all are worshiping.

    Second, the United States was not "born" on the 4th of July, 1776. That was a day of secession, a day that a group of individuals publicly denounced ties to the British Empire. The "United States" wasn't formed until after the war had been won, and then in a form that would be unrecognizable today: a confederation of 13 governments that centralized only foreign relations.

    Please list more.
    "You cannot solve these problems with war." - Ron Paul

  18. #45
    i am that guy!
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by mczerone View Post
    Misconceptions about "the Fourth"

    1) It's NOT "America's Birthday"

    First, "America" is not a government. America is a landmass, specifically everything from Greenland and Nunavut in the North, down to Argentina and the Faukland Islands in the south. Part of America is North America. Part of North America is arbitrarily claimed by the United States. That's what you all are worshiping.

    Second, the United States was not "born" on the 4th of July, 1776. That was a day of secession, a day that a group of individuals publicly denounced ties to the British Empire. The "United States" wasn't formed until after the war had been won, and then in a form that would be unrecognizable today: a confederation of 13 governments that centralized only foreign relations.

    Please list more.
    The "United States Government" wasn't formed until after the war was won. Our nation was formed when we decided to tell George to stick it.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I agree with this. I celebrate the sacrifices and the courage of the Founders as well.

    As far as the list goes... I don't pay much attention to the rules they have for us anyway.

    LOL is that a real show?
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    Just got back from my local 4th parade. There were no less than 3 groups of veterans marching. Every time, everyone as far as I could see got up on their feet and clapped. I was the only one sitting (other than my boy sitting on my lap). Blech.
    It seemed like about one-third of the entries in our 4th of July parade were various armed tax ticks and their vehicles , complete with an MRAP (barf). At least the official theme wasn't "honoring our first responders" -- for a change.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by mczerone View Post
    That mood gets reinforced for me at concerts, at parks, and restaurants, and even driving though my neighborhood.

    So many flag-wavers, usa-chanters, World-Cup/Olympics-rooters-just-because-a-team-shares-MY-flag, and blind-pride-troop supporters.

    They're everywhere, and that picture flashes through my head at least 5 times a day.
    Weird. Around here there are plenty of those, but there are also a whole lot of people who sit and fold their arms just to be contrary. They want to "be that guy" without being able to provide an actual reason why they're upset at those soldiers in front of them, those fellow concertgoers, etc..

    I use the holiday as a chance to show fireworks to my niece and nephew, and as a good opportunity to discuss the actual definitions of words like "patriot" and "hero" that get flung around so much. I'm aware of the arbitrary things associated with it being celebrated on July 4th, just as I'm aware of the misinformation. That's the same with every holiday. I guess I could just stick my nose up at them all, but that seems like being a contrarian $#@! just to say I sat on my butt and did nothing and stuck it to the Man! ("the Man" will not know or care, but I can still strut!)
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    * Why is it ok to celebrate violent resistance to a government by our wig-wearing ancestors, but “extremist” to say anything negative about government today?
    Because history is written by victors. Until teabaggers win a war, we'll always be bad guys

    * If people can’t be trusted to govern themselves, how is it that some people can be trusted to govern others?
    They can't, which is why anarchy is the best form of governing.

    * What’s so great about taxation with representation?
    Consent

    * Has anyone ever showed you the “social contract”?
    Nope.

    * If we’re so “free,” why can’t we even celebrate our “freedom” by lighting off a few firecrackers and bottle rockets in our own backyards? They’re illegal in most states these days for ordinary citizens to even possess – let alone use.Uncle Sam pic
    Exactly! Total farce. Giving up freedom to celebrate for one night of an illusion of safety. There's ZERO evidence fireworks causes deaths or injury, ZERO, yet the government continues to hassle the firecracker industry because they hate competition.

    * If the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, why do the “interpretations” of that law by judges supersede the plain language of the Constitution?
    That's precisely what it's the supreme law of the law, because it says Judges must interpret it.

    * Why do civilian cops have military ranks? Sergeants, captains – even four-star “generals” . . . some of them have military flair (AKA “fruit salad”) too … as if they’d “served” in a war somewhere.
    Because it's cool to have.

    * If it’s wrong for me (an individual) to do something aggressively violent, how does it become right when a group does the same thing?
    Because the majority decides what's right or wrong.

    * Is morality merely a question of numbers and percentages?
    Yes, otherwise anybody can say he can do anything he wants.

    * Does calling a thing by a different name change the nature of the thing? Does a cat become “not-cat” by dint of calling it “not-cat”? If it’s still a cat – no matter what I call it – how is it that taking someone else’s money (theft) becomes not-theft when it’s called “taxation”?
    According to Lincoln, no. Which is why sooner or later this country has to confront the reality of calling consensual sex with children "rape". It's not rape if there was no coercion.

    * If abortion is acceptable because it’s “the woman’s body” and thus, “her right to choose”- how come a man can’t choose to do what he likes with his body? Like choosing not to wear a helmet while riding his motorcycle, for instance?
    In fairness, women can't choose to not wear a helmet either. My guess is, when a person dies on a road he's trash for other people to clean up.

    * How come there are no “senile citizen checkpoints”?
    there should be!

    * If the “right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed,” why are the people forced to get the government’s permission to keep and bear arms?
    A bit too late to be asking now, it's been accepted for decades.

    * How is it “reasonable” to stop people en masse and at random, and force them to submit to an interrogation/search?
    I didn't say it was.

    * Why are we forced to transact our business with privately owned banks? Why is it illegal for us to exchange value for value among ourselves?
    It's not illegal to transact anonymously, just not with government issued dollars.

    * If you have the right to not incriminate yourself, why is it considered a criminal act to decline to fill out a federal tax form?
    It's not a criminal act, you can choose not to collect your paycheck and your employer can also withhold for you. also, filling in a tax form does not waive your 5th amendment right, courts have consistently ruled on this

    * Did anyone ever ask you for your “consent” to be governed? What if you do not consent?
    Nope.

    * Why is an officer’s “safety” more important than your safety?
    Nobody's safety is more important than mine

    * If the “civil” war was fought to free the slaves, how come the commanding general of the Union Army, Ulysses S. Grant, owned a black man while he waged war on the South? (He freed the poor man eventually)
    Because he freed him eventually and used him as needed.

    * If corporations are “persons,” how come you can never get one on the phone – much less put “him” in prison when he defrauds you?
    You can get owners and officers in prison.

    * Why is it ok for big cartels like Monsanto to sell genetically modified foods on their say-so that it’s ok, but a “crime” for a local farmer to sell unpasteurized milk?
    It's not legal for Monsanto to sell unpasteurized milk, try making an actual apple to apple comparison (no pun intended)

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    * If slavery is against the law, why is it we’re compelled to work for the benefit of others?
    You're not, ever heard of unemployed people?

    * Shouldn’t everywhere – anywhere – be a “free speech zone”?
    Except private property, as in, you can't compell a person to tolerate your speech on his property.

    * If you own your home, why must you pay rent to the government every year in order to be allowed to continue to live there?
    Don't like it? Don't own it.

    * How come other people choosing to have sex – and choosing to have kids – imposes a financial obligation on you that’s enforceable at gunpoint, but choosing to adopt a cat and figuring out how you’ll feed him and pay for his bills is entirely your own problem?
    Because humans have rights, cats do not.

    * Why don’t school busses have to have seat belts?
    I didn't know they didn't.

    * If guns are so dangerous, how come politicians are surrounded by cordons of heavily armed men?
    What's the contradiction? They're surrounded by them BECAUSE they are dangerous.

    * How did the good ol’ USA become the “homeland”?
    it's not your homeland? go away then!

    * If you believe it’s ok to fight off a mugger, how come it’s not ok to fight off a tax collector?
    It is, both have consequences.

    * If only “Congress may declare war,” how come we’ve been “at war” (on “terror”) for going on 13 years without a congressional declaration of war?
    It wouldn't be the only time, it's only a legal semantic technicality.

    * Why can’t DMV (or IRS) “customers” say “no thanks” to the services offered?
    You can, you can refuse to drive and refuse to earn.

    * How can health care be a right if someone else is forced to provide it?
    It's PRECISELY a right if you are forced to provide it. If it was a luxury, privilege, or non-right, you'd be allowed to sell it for money.

    * Do you suppose motorcycles would be “allowed” if they were a new invention?
    Why wouldn't it be?

    * If you’re a free man, why must you obtain permission to travel, marry or work?
    Permission to travel, you don't.
    Marry, only because you want the government granted benefits.
    Work, only to protect citizens from foreigners and competition.

    * How is eminent domaining a man off his land any different than simply stealing his land?
    Taking requires just compensation, read the Constitution.

    * Why are we forced to do business with, feed, house – even hang out – with people we’d avoid if we were free to do so?
    Who? Homeless people? Illegal immigrants? Black people?

  26. #52
    Here it is four years later, and Eric is just as right.

    The Bolshevik left is wailing about losing rights that are not, and we are under just as much and more surveillance and government control.

    Thankfully, there might be a little pushback, finally.

  27. #53
    Most of the answers to the questions in the OP will start to become clear if these two things are read and comprehended.

    http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/THE...-ADVENTURE.pdf

    https://www.pdfdrive.net/fruits-from...e20167616.html
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  28. #54
    Original text of the Declaration of Independence; in my view as an avowed anti-statist, the greatest political document ever penned.

    Transcript of Declaration of Independence (Rough Draft)

    A Declaration by the Representatives
    of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in
    General Congress assembled.

    WHEN in the Course of human Events it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth the separate & equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.

    WE hold these Truths to be self-evident: that all Men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with inherent and* [certain] inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness: that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, & to institute new government, laying it's foundation on such principles, & organizing it's powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness. Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light & transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses & usurpations begun at a distinguished period and pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government, & to provide new guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; & such is now the necessity which constrains them to expunge [alter] their former systems of government. The history of the present king of Great Britain is a history of unremitting [repeated] injuries & usurpations, among which appears no solitary fact to contradict the uniform tenor of the rest but all have [all having]in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this let facts be submitted to a candid world for the truth of which we pledge a faith yet unsullied by falsehood.

    HE has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome & necessary for the public good.

    HE has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate & pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; & when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    HE has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them, & formidable to tyrants only.

    HE has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    HE has dissolved representative houses repeatedly & continually for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

    HE has refused for a long time after such dissolutions to cause others to be elected, whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise, the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without & convulsions within.

    HE has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners, refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, & raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.

    HE has suffered [obstructed] the administration of justice totally to cease in some of these states [by] refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.

    HE has made our judges dependant on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, & the amount & paiment of their salaries.

    HE has erected a multitude of new offices by a self assumed power and sent hither swarms of new officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    HE has kept among us in times of peace standing armies and ships of war without the consent of our legislatures.

    HE has affected to render the military independent of, & superior to the civil power.

    HE has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitutions & unacknowledged by our laws, giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:

    FOR quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

    FOR protecting them by a mock-trial from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states

    FOR cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:

    FOR imposing taxes on us without our consent:

    FOR depriving us [in many cases] of the benefits of trial by jury

    FOR transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offences:

    FOR abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging it's boundaries, so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these states [colonies]:

    FOR taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:

    FOR suspending our own legislatures, & declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in allcases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated government here withdrawing his governors, and declaring us out of his allegiance & protection. [by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.]

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, & destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation & tyranny already begun with circumstanccs of cruelty and perfidy [scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, & totally] unworthy the head of a civilized nation.

    He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends & brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.

    He has [excited domestic insurection among us, & has] endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, & conditions of existence.

    He has incited treasonable insurrections of our fellow-citizens, with the allurements of forfeiture & confiscation of our property.

    He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. This piratical warfare, the opprobium of INFIDEL Powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. Determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce. And that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, by murdering the people on whom he also obtruded them: thus paying off former crimes committed against the LIBERTIES of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the LIVES of another.

    In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injuries.

    A prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a [free] people who mean to be free. Future ages will scarcely believe that the hardiness of one man adventured, within the short compass of twelve years only, to lay a foundation so broad & so undisguised for tyranny over a people fostered & fixed in principles of freedom.

    Nor have we been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend a [an unwarrantable] jurisdiction over these our states [us]. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration & settlement here, no one of which could warrant so strange a pretension: that these were effected at the expense of our own blood & treasure, unassisted by the wealth or the strength of Great Britain: that in constituting indeed our several forms of government, we had adopted one common king, thereby laying a foundation for perpetual league & amity with them: but that submission to their parliament was no part of our constitution, nor ever in idea, if history may be credited: and, we [have] appealed to their native justice and magnanimity [and we have conjured them by] as well as to the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations which were likely to [would inevitably] interrupt our connection and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice & of consanguinity, and when occasions have been given them, by the regular course of their laws, of removing from their councils the disturbers of our harmony, they have, by their free election, re-established them in power. At this very time too they are permitting their chief magistrate to send over not only soldiers of our common blood, but Scotch & foreign mercenaries to invade & destroy us. These facts have given the last stab to agonizing affection, and manly spirit bids us to renounce forever these unfeeling brethren. We must endeavor to forget our former love for them, and hold them as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends. We might have been a free and a great people together; but a communication of grandeur & of freedom it seems is below their dignity. Be it so, since they will have it. The road to happiness & to glory is open to us too. We will tread it apart from them, and [We must therefore] acquiesce in the necessity which denounces our eternal separation! [and hold them as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.]

    We therefore the representatives of the united States of America in General Congress assebled [appealing to the Judge of the World for the recititude of our intentions] do in the name & by authority of the good people of these states [colonies] reject and renounce all allegiance & subjections to the kings of Great Britain & all others who may hereafter claim by, through or under them: we utterly disolve all political connection which may heretofore have subsisted between us & the people or parliment of Great Britain: and finally we do assert and declare these colonies to be free and independent states, [solemly Publish and Declare that these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, Free and Independent States; that they are dissolved from allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connection between them and the State of Great-Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved;] and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract allies, establish commerce, & do all other acts & things which independent states may of right do.

    And for the support of this declaration, [with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence] we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, & our sacred honor.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Original text of the Declaration of Independence; in my view as an avowed anti-statist, the greatest political document ever penned.
    Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light & transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses & usurpations begun at a distinguished period and pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such government, & to provide new guards for their future security.
    Could not agree more.

    The absolute right to rebel, being the cornerstone of all that follows.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Here we go!!

    https://twitter.com/NRO/status/572814567316840449

    As Russell Kirk once said, "as if some eminent Neoconservatives mistook Tel Aviv for the capital of the United States."



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    LOL is that a real show?
    I have been using a similar permit for decades.
    Do something Danke

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Could not agree more.

    The absolute right to rebel, being the cornerstone of all that follows.
    :thumbs:

    And that - the right to rebel: the RIGHT to overthrow a State - untangles ANY justification for the existence of a State, if one follows that logic to it's inevitable conclusion.

    What underpins any rebellion/revolution is the inherent obviation of the authority of the State. There is no legitimate State except that one which is voluntarily so joined. Thus there is no legitimate State (because of course the State is the implementation of unprovoked force).

    QED

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    :thumbs:

    And that - the right to rebel: the RIGHT to overthrow a State - untangles ANY justification for the existence of a State, if one follows that logic to it's inevitable conclusion.

    What underpins any rebellion/revolution is the inherent obviation of the authority of the State. There is no legitimate State except that one which is voluntarily so joined. Thus there is no legitimate State (because of course the State is the implementation of unprovoked force).

    QED
    IMO, the DOI was the first socialist manifesto, and unleashed that monster on the world.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

  35. #60
    HAPPY UNGRATEFUL COLONIALs DAY EVERYONE!!!!!

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