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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That he is LESS of NOT a threat to them and that he has made deals and chosen allies in order to survive continue the status quo.
    Fixed it for u



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Fixed it for u
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  5. #33
    Some of us are still march forward. The R3volution continues for those willing to struggle and fight (and get creative!): www.sonsoflibertyso.com/pdc

  6. #34
    If Ron was born with an alpha male personality, he'd be unstoppable.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    If Ron was born with an alpha male personality, he'd be unstoppable.
    Or Dead

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    As much as I love Ron Paul, I don't think he would be strong enough to withstand the onslaught from the Marxists in the Media and DC Establishment. You have to be a fighter like Trump is and RP is a nice guy.

    The statists are out there. They don't fight fair. They don't have honor. They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or shame... and they absolutely will not stop, ever, until they are dead.
    This 1000x.

    We all know, or at least most of us do, that the Paul campaign cowered to Romney after threats were issued. He continued attacking Santorum and Gingrich, but completely abandoned any attacks against Mitt. It was obvious. If he couldn't make it through the GOP primaries without outing Romney for the corrupted crook he was, especially after threats were issued, how could he possibly have done any better in a general election where the media would have turned up the attack knob to maximum output in order to discard him. We got a preview of that with the newsletter attacks. It would have been infinitely more intense than that.

    He had the opportunity to out Romney but refrained, because he doesn't believe in fighting that way, and instead focused on preaching good ol fashioned liberty and freedom, spreading the ideas of peace and love, spreading this message to as many as would listen. Love him for that and that's something to respect and honor, but it's not something that will help you win when fighting these snakes. In the long run I think he is going to prevail and be remembered in a very positive light, but in the 2000's, it's not going to get you very far politically speaking.

  9. #37
    My Restore America Now sticker is faded, torn, and getting ready to give up the ghost: much like the movement that it once represented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post


    $#@!...

    Woke up from a particularly vivid dream...nightmare...where Ron won, and his campaign slogan from 2012 was viewed the same as MAGA and he and his family treated the same way, but much worse than Trump.

    It did not end well, this dream.
    That people can compare Ron and Trump with a straight face is as good a sign as any of the aforementioned problem.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That people can compare Ron and Trump with a straight face is as good a sign as any of the aforementioned problem.
    You got rocks in yer head if you think Ron would not have gotten the same treatment and worse.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    You got rocks in yer head if you think Ron would not have gotten the same treatment and worse.
    He would have been treated much worse.

    For example, FOX would not be shilling for him 110% every second of the day.

    And every GOPer in elected office would not be licking his balls.

    He probably would have already been impeached, and on a bi-partisan basis (if not GOP alone).

    The hatred toward Trump is quite different; it's not based on anything substantial; it's just noise-making for future election purposes.

    It's no different than what the GOP did to Obama (or what the Dems did to Bush II, etc).

    Meaningless

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And that veto would have been overridden, and so would every other veto , Ron would have had about a dozen members of Congress on his side.
    That would be an improvement. Too bad the founders didn’t specify a 90% vote to pass new legislation.

    The Congress could do that now, if the Congress really wanted to open up government again.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    He would have been treated much worse.

    For example, FOX would not be shilling for him 110% every second of the day.

    And every GOPer in elected office would not be licking his balls.

    He probably would have already been impeached, and on a bi-partisan basis (if not GOP alone).

    The hatred toward Trump is quite different; it's not based on anything substantial; it's just noise-making for future election purposes.

    It's no different than what the GOP did to Obama (or what the Dems did to Bush II, etc).

    Meaningless
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That would be an improvement. Too bad the founders didn’t specify a 90% vote to pass new legislation.

    The Congress could do that now, if the Congress really wanted to open up government again.
    I don't see how getting none of our agenda actually enacted and Ron killed or imprisoned would be an improvement over Trump getting some of our agenda implemented.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't see how getting none of our agenda actually enacted and Ron killed or imprisoned would be an improvement over Trump getting some of our agenda implemented.
    It’s unicorn and rainbow speculation, but I’d wager Ron could have gotten a lot of things done, barring the assassination hypotheses going down.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    It’s unicorn and rainbow speculation, but I’d wager Ron could have gotten a lot of things done, barring the assassination hypotheses going down.
    I would vote for him instead of Trump because that is the right thing to do but I would expect him to get nothing done before being impeached or assassinated and anything he did get done would then be undone, I didn't think this way back when he was running but watching what is happening to Trump has changed my point of view.

    The best possibility would be if we had someone who is as hard and cunning as Trump but had more of Ron's principles.
    Without a literal revolution we won't be able to charge full speed into the front of the enemy, some compromises and stratagems will be required.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  17. #44
    US National Debt:

    January 20, 2017: $19,947,304,555,212.49

    January 20, 2019: $21,954,898,759,285.36

    + $2 trillion

    ...here's to getting things done!


  18. #45
    It's hard for me to picture someone like Ron grabbing Jim Acosta by the tail and slinging him against the wall until he ends up in a senseless stupor. I think we need Trump to keep it up a bit longer until the media machine is gone. It is still the biggest obstacle to the presidency we face, IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
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    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    It's hard for me to picture someone like Ron grabbing Jim Acosta by the tail and slinging him against the wall until he ends up in a senseless stupor. I think we need Trump to keep it up a bit longer until the media machine is gone. It is still the biggest obstacle to the presidency we face, IMO.
    What on Earth does that mean?

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post


    $#@!...

    Woke up from a particularly vivid dream...nightmare...where Ron won, and his campaign slogan from 2012 was viewed the same as MAGA and he and his family treated the same way, but much worse than Trump.

    It did not end well, this dream.
    Time has clearly punished you by eternally standing still at 6:00PM

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    US National Debt:

    January 20, 2017: $19,947,304,555,212.49

    January 20, 2019: $21,954,898,759,285.36

    + $2 trillion

    ...here's to getting things done!

    This is the stupidest tea party I've ever been to



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