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Oh wait... Is that the same kind of polling data that gave us President Hillary??
Or is it the same kind of polling data that tells you what you already want to hear??
Or, perhaps, it's the same kind of polling data that is trying to direct public opinion and not measure it.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Here is a good article that breaks it all down:
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...ional-approval
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
I saw nowhere in that article that it referred to the law you mentioned, much less showing specifically where it authorized Trump to make this executive order. Maybe I missed it. Could you quote the part of the article that does? And if not (and even better yet), then, since you are acting like you know the law in question, can't you just cite the actual part of the law that you have in mind?
There aren't any limits on the President if he declares a National Emergency of which he did. The National Emergency Act has given him the authority to declare it, which he declared on the southern border because of the caravans invading the country. Congress could challenge it and Congress can pass a concurrent resolution to terminate the state of emergency, but ultimately it would come back to the President to veto it.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
You realize that logic gives the office of the President power to do just about anything, right? Forget checks and balances. Forget Constitutional limitations.
If you agree with what you just wrote, then you shouldn't complain when the other party's Executive does the same thing, or assumes increasing power.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution names the President as the Commander-in-Chief of the naval and land forces of the United States.[[1]]U.S. CONST. art. II, § 2.[[1]]{{1}} It is generally agreed that the Commander-in-Chief role gives the President power to utilize the armed forces to repel attacks against the United States.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
It seems like you're changing your whole argument now. So you're no longer talking about some law pertaining to national emergencies that was passed in 1976?
Note also that even the president's authority over the armed forces, even when using them to repel invasions, is limited by the funding Congress gives him for that.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
H.R.3884 — 94th Congress (1975-1976)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/94th-c...ouse-bill/3884
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
I'm confused by what you're talking about now. Are you talking about funding that he requested? Or the funding he is trying to allocate via his national emergency declaration?
My understanding is that reallocating money that Congress allocated to the military in the budget it passed and Trump signed recently to the building of a border wall is what Trump's national emergency declaration does.
I guess the question then is one of what constitutes an emergency? This becomes subjective then. There are arguments that can be made that there is a national emergency at the borders and others can argue differently.
I respect Rand Paul’s position on this, as it is a principled one, but I agree with Trump that there is an emergency and with his plan to use the military to complete the project. Especially when it is political games being played to thwart Trump on a project (border walls) which up until recently was a bipartisan issue. The dems have already demonstrated that fairness and acting for the benefit of the American citizens are things they easily ignore for political expediency and to gain power.
I hope this doesn’t hurt Rand within the impassioned GOP base at this polarized time because he is by far the best politician in Washington.
Last edited by TER; 03-04-2019 at 10:33 AM.
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
And the funny thing is i have helped more Libertarians win office then a keyboard warrior like you. YAL and winatthedoor i played a huge part. While you sit with a bag of cheetos in your mothers basement. Props to you!
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
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