The Copsucker in Chief: 'Call It the Surge': Vowing Nationwide Crackdown

[Origanalist]

'Call It the Surge': Vowing Nationwide Crackdown, Trump Touts Tougher and More Militarized US Police

[phill4paul]

$#@!ing death by non-responsive 'post quick reply' attempted posting. I'll try to recompose what I previously typed out and lost.

Trump's politically savvy. If anyone says he is a 'dunderhead' then they are wrong. Trump stirs up left and right extremists. And then calls on law enforcement to step in. One-two punch.
There are about 1 million law enforcement officers in the U.S. They are mostly conservative and vote. They have spouses that will vote with them. So 2 million votes. They have immediate family. Mom and Pops are gonna vote for the candidate that supports their son/daughter. So your up to 4 million. Add in ALL the contractors for support, armaments, vehicles, etc. and your probably up to 10 million dedicated voters. This doesn't even consider the citizenry that yearn for them.

Trumps a populist and looks for segments of society he can get votes from. Law Enforcement is one of them.

[pcosmar]

"In coming weeks, Attorney General Barr will announce a new crackdown on violent crime—which I think is so important—targeting gangs and drug traffickers in high crime cities and dangerous rural areas," Trump said during the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Chicago. "Let's call it the surge."

The president did not provide any details on the plan but said it is going to be "very dramatic."

"And you're going to see tremendous results very quickly," Trump added.

As if to emphasize his view of America's cities as war zones, Trump went on to tout his administration's success in putting military equipment into the hands of U.S. police officers and claimed "Afghanistan is a safe place" compared to Chicago.

"To help keep you safe, I've made $600 million-worth of surplus military equipment available to local law enforcement," Trump told the audience of police chiefs. "If you remember, the previous administration didn't want to do that... They didn't want to make you look so tough. They didn't want to make you look like you're a threat."

Saw this coming..

I think I probably said so someplace.

And they are a threat,, a Clear and Present Danger.

[Origanalist]

$#@!ing death by non-responsive 'post quick reply' attempted posting. I'll try to recompose what I previously typed out and lost.

Trump's politically savvy. If anyone says he is a 'dunderhead' then they are wrong. Trump stirs up left and right extremists. And then calls on law enforcement to step in. One-two punch.
There are about 1 million law enforcement officers in the U.S. They are mostly conservative and vote. They have spouses that will vote with them. So 2 million votes. They have immediate family. Mom and Pops are gonna vote for the candidate that supports their son/daughter. So your up to 4 million. Add in ALL the contractors for support, armaments, vehicles, etc. and your probably up to 10 million dedicated voters. This doesn't even consider the citizenry that yearn for them.

Trumps a populist and looks for segments of society he can get votes from. Law Enforcement is one of them.

I suppose, but he's still a copsucker and always has been.

"To help keep you safe, I've made $600 million-worth of surplus military equipment available to local law enforcement,"

[pcosmar]

Trump stirs up left and right extremists. And then calls on law enforcement to step in. One-two punch.

Police Union is quite the Socialist Support. He is gonna need them when he phucks everybody.

You really want to support more Police State Build-up?? Anything Trumps says is good? WTF???

[phill4paul]

I suppose, but he's still a copsucker and always has been.

Don't deny it. He is, indeed, a copsucker.

[kahless]

When I read threads like this I am at a point where I find Trump is as much the enemy as the far left. The biggest threat to lives of people in this country are not the criminals that Trump speaks or some foreign threat but rather thugs in law enforcement. (Gun crime? where is the left on gun crime since it lies mostly with law enforcement not private citizens)

Within every institution whether religious, education and in fact law enforcement, there are going to be a percentage that victimizes their constituents. The difference here is law enforcement is armed and there is no limit to who they claim to be their constituents. They are like a standing army that protects one another no matter what crime they commit and that includes any family or friend of law enforcement. So we are not talking about just a million officers we are talking about millions of people that are above the law that have the potential and do victimize people outside the blue wall. Anyone that opposes them or they think saw some crime they committed even though they had no intention of coming forward is subject to retribution.

Trump should not be arming them but rather demilitarizing our police forces since too many have become armed criminal enterprises.

[CCTelander]

I'm getting sick of all this winning.

Can't you just smell the freedom?

[shakey1]

Well, ain’t that $#@!ing scarey?

[Anti Federalist]

The Drunken Monkey strikes again...JFC this guy...

[Superfluous Man]

$#@!ing death by non-responsive 'post quick reply' attempted posting. I'll try to recompose what I previously typed out and lost.

Trump's politically savvy. If anyone says he is a 'dunderhead' then they are wrong. Trump stirs up left and right extremists. And then calls on law enforcement to step in. One-two punch.
There are about 1 million law enforcement officers in the U.S. They are mostly conservative and vote. They have spouses that will vote with them. So 2 million votes. They have immediate family. Mom and Pops are gonna vote for the candidate that supports their son/daughter. So your up to 4 million. Add in ALL the contractors for support, armaments, vehicles, etc. and your probably up to 10 million dedicated voters. This doesn't even consider the citizenry that yearn for them.

Trumps a populist and looks for segments of society he can get votes from. Law Enforcement is one of them.

That explanation may be 100% accurate. But it doesn't make his doing that any less treasonous.

[Superfluous Man]

I suppose, but he's still a copsucker and always has been.

Cop sucking is his #1 issue. It's the reason his supporters support him.

[Cleaner44]

Cop sucking is his #1 issue. It's the reason his supporters support him.

I don't see it as his #1 issue, I think the economy is.

He has been a copsucker since day 1 and he love building up the bloated military as well. I am glad that Trump beat Hillary and want to see him beat Warren next year, but I certainly don't support him because he is a copsucker.

I am dealing with the reality that I will never get to have a libertarian president as best I can. I still think Trump is a better choice than Obama, Clinton, Bush, Rubio, Biden, Kasich, etc...

[kahless]

Cop sucking is his #1 issue. It's the reason his supporters support him.

Not all, just the mindless. The same percentage of mindless zombies that support any candidate or party that cannot think for themselves. Our entire national and entertainment culture is centered on placing law enforcement on a pedestal as something of perfection that does the right thing, almost to be worshiped. Turn on the TV any night, program after program, channel after channel promoting the lie of virtuous god like creatures as law enforcement that always do the right thing.

All one big sham, but the mindless, due to countless years of brainwashing have no clue if the criminal enterprises we call law enforcement has not touched their lives in some way.

[kahless]

I don't see it as his #1 issue, I think the economy is.

He has been a copsucker since day 1 and he love building up the bloated military as well. I am glad that Trump beat Hillary and want to see him beat Warren next year, but I certainly don't support him because he is a copsucker.

I am dealing with the reality that I will never get to have a libertarian president as best I can. I still think Trump is a better choice than Obama, Clinton, Bush, Rubio, Biden, Kasich, etc...

^Pretty much all of this is where I am at. The LP is like that by design so we do not have a choice. They herd us accordingly to the lesser of the two evils, in this case Trump.

[acptulsa]

When I read threads like this I am at a point where I find Trump is as much the enemy as the far left.

Gee. Congratulations.

And when I told you the same four years ago, when Rand Paul was being ignored in favor of the Alpha Celebrity?

Is there a vaccine that can fix the Republican Primary Voter before they vote themselves the disease they can't cure for eight years?

Reagan the Small Government Man had grown the morass in Sacramento. Dubya "Common Core" Bush the Education President had left Texas 48th in the nation in education, and alternated promising "no nation building" with promises to go back to Iraq. What does it take to cure Republicans of their primary season blindness? I'm $#@!ing sick of saying I told you so, Trump Trainers. It isn't getting us anywhere we want to be.

If we can't find the vaccine, we'll never have another Calvin Coolidge. Never.

[Anti Globalist]

This kind of $#@! gets me legitimately scared. This is exactly what the Founders didn't want.

[Dr.3D]

This kind of $#@! gets me legitimately scared. This is exactly what the Founders didn't want.

Cops are unconstitutional and are a run around to having a standing army that can be used against the people of our country.

[kahless]

Gee. Congratulations.

And when I told you the same four years ago, when Rand Paul was being ignored in favor of the Alpha Celebrity?

Is there a vaccine that can fix the Republican Primary Voter before they vote themselves the disease they can't cure for eight years?

Reagan the Small Government Man had grown the morass in Sacramento. Dubya "Common Core" Bush the Education President had left Texas 48th in the nation in education, and alternated promising "no nation building" with promises to go back to Iraq. What does it take to cure Republicans of their primary season blindness? I'm $#@!ing sick of saying I told you so, Trump Trainers. It isn't getting us anywhere we want to be.

If we can't find the vaccine, we'll never have another Calvin Coolidge. Never.

Oh not this $#@! again. The stuff you thought was going on in these forums was all mostly in your head but did not reflect reality. No one denied the issues with Trump as a candidate and Rand Paul being ignored. Rand did every possible thing you could do wrong during the campaign early on while Trump did everything possible in saying the right things to win the Republican primary. This was obvious to everyone and we all said so.

Stating the obvious is not a fault of the forum members here pointing it out, the news media or Trump. It falls on Rand since he chose the wrong paths of support (sought favor of the establishment on the right and loony left) and did not make a serious effort to win the Republican primary. Everyone could see that starting in 2015. It appeared that he did not want it but perhaps just needed that vehicle to secure his senate seat.

[acptulsa]

Oh not this $#@! again. The stuff you thought was going on in these forums was all mostly in your head but did not reflect reality. No one denied the issues with Trump as a candidate and Rand Paul being ignored. Rand did every possible thing you could do wrong during the campaign early on while Trump did everything possible in saying the right things to win the Republican primary. This was obvious to everyone and we all said so.

Stating the obvious is not a fault of the forum members here pointing it out, the news media or Trump. It falls on Rand since he chose the wrong paths of support (sought favor of the establishment on the right and loony left) and did not make a serious effort to win the Republican primary. Everyone could see that starting in 2015. It appeared that he did not want it but perhaps just needed that vehicle to secure his senate seat.

And blaming their rare good candidates for the fact that they succumbed to the horse race rhetoric has always been Republican primary voters' excuse for not learning from their mistakes. Being governed by psychopaths costs us everything, voting for "a loser" in a primary costs us exactly nothing, but they're more afraid of backing someone who loses than in being ruled by psychopaths. And Republicans never, ever, ever learn from their mistakes, because first they'd have to admit to making them.

No wonder the GOP is as worthless as tits on a boar hog.

[Cleaner44]

Gee. Congratulations.

And when I told you the same four years ago, when Rand Paul was being ignored in favor of the Alpha Celebrity?

Is there a vaccine that can fix the Republican Primary Voter before they vote themselves the disease they can't cure for eight years?

Reagan the Small Government Man had grown the morass in Sacramento. Dubya "Common Core" Bush the Education President had left Texas 48th in the nation in education, and alternated promising "no nation building" with promises to go back to Iraq. What does it take to cure Republicans of their primary season blindness? I'm $#@!ing sick of saying I told you so, Trump Trainers. It isn't getting us anywhere we want to be.

If we can't find the vaccine, we'll never have another Calvin Coolidge. Never.

And blaming their rare good candidates for the fact that they succumbed to the horse race rhetoric has always been Republican primary voters' excuse for not learning from their mistakes. Being governed by psychopaths costs us everything, voting for "a loser" in a primary costs us exactly nothing, but they're more afraid of backing someone who loses than in being ruled by psychopaths. And Republicans never, ever, ever learn from their mistakes, because first they'd have to admit to making them.

No wonder the GOP is as worthless as tits on a boar hog.

So you observe the obvious like everyone else here, congrats!

There is no vaccine for fixing any voters, there is only reality. You can stop saying "I told you so" anytime now. You are only repeating what we all learned many years ago.

There is no getting where we want to be, if by that you mean having a limited government that adheres to the Constitution. There won't be any Libertarian candidate winning the White House.

My suggestion, deal with the reality. We will never have another Calvin Coolidge. Never, ever, ever. The people in Washington D.C. will never shrink the government or their power. Never, ever, ever.

The federal government will only continue to grow and infringe on our rights. You can stop voting anytime. You can stop saying "I told you so" anytime now.

I have come to the conclusion that the best path forward is rejecting liberals and neocons like Obama and McCain. Currently we have a president that wasn't groomed by a lifetime of "public service" and isn't a Marxist. In fact he is a leader in declaring that the U.S. will never be a socialist nation. Now we can argue that he believes in tons of BIG GOVT ideas and a certain amount of socialism, but he still is leading a public movement to openly reject socialism.

My goal in 2008 and 2012 was to punish the GOP and force them to reject neocons. That plan largely worked in my opinion.

My goal in 2016 and 2020 is to punish Marxists that hate the Constitution. This plan is going well in my opinion.

What is your plan?

[Swordsmyth]

So you observe the obvious like everyone else here, congrats!

There is no vaccine for fixing any voters, there is only reality. You can stop saying "I told you so" anytime now. You are only repeating what we all learned many years ago.

There is no getting where we want to be, if by that you mean having a limited government that adheres to the Constitution. There won't be any Libertarian candidate winning the White House.

My suggestion, deal with the reality. We will never have another Calvin Coolidge. Never, ever, ever. The people in Washington D.C. will never shrink the government or their power. Never, ever, ever.

The federal government will only continue to grow and infringe on our rights. You can stop voting anytime. You can stop saying "I told you so" anytime now.

I have come to the conclusion that the best path forward is rejecting liberals and neocons like Obama and McCain. Currently we have a president that wasn't groomed by a lifetime of "public service" and isn't a Marxist. In fact he is a leader in declaring that the U.S. will never be a socialist nation. Now we can argue that he believes in tons of BIG GOVT ideas and a certain amount of socialism, but he still is leading a public movement to openly reject socialism.

My goal in 2008 and 2012 was to punish the GOP and force them to reject neocons. That plan largely worked in my opinion.

My goal in 2016 and 2020 is to punish Marxists that hate the Constitution. This plan is going well in my opinion.

What is your plan?

If we accept reality and deal with it then we might make incremental progress and actually get where we want to be eventually.
If we insist that we get perfection or nothing immediately we will get nothing.


Typical Purist libertarian:

[acptulsa]

So you observe the obvious like everyone else here, congrats!

What bothers me is not the Republican embrace of hindsight, but the never ending rejection by Republican voters if foresight.

What is your plan?

'Little progress can be made by merely attempting to repress what is evil. Our great hope lies in developing what is good.'--Calvin Coolidge

But, of course, Republican voters rush to compromise because they think good is unachievable, and Democrats can't tell it from evil. So, if no one is willing to step up to the plate, but only willing to declare Right to be unachievable and blame everyone else for it...

[Cleaner44]

What bothers me is not the Republican embrace of hindsight, but the never ending rejection by Republican voters if foresight.



'Little progress can be made by merely attempting to repress what is evil. Our great hope lies in developing what is good.'--Calvin Coolidge

But, of course, Republican voters rush to compromise because they think good is unachievable, and Democrats can't tell it from evil. So, if no one is willing to step up to the plate, but only willing to declare Right to be unachievable and blame everyone else for it...

I think Trump develops capitalism, which is good in my opinion.

I reject central planning in favor of free markets. Now obviously our markets are manipulated, but moving toward more freedom in markets and less regulation of markets is a good thing IMO.

Trump has been successful in reducing regulations and I think that is one way to develop what is good.

The Democrat party is a lost cause. The GOP is the only viable path to develop what is good from what I see.

The left openly hates the Bill of Rights. The right promotes the Bill of Rights and that is good.

I as a libertarian will gladly be allies with the right in their battle against the left.

There will always be things to bitch about with the right, but there is also plenty worthy of praise if you choose to acknowledge it.

Between the left and right, the greater good is on the right and our great hope lies in developing what is good. Thus the choice is obvious, develop the right.

[Swordsmyth]

I think Trump develops capitalism, which is good in my opinion.

I reject central planning in favor of free markets. Now obviously our markets are manipulated, but moving toward more freedom in markets and less regulation of markets is a good thing IMO.

Trump has been successful in reducing regulations and I think that is one way to develop what is good.

The Democrat party is a lost cause. The GOP is the only viable path to develop what is good from what I see.

The left openly hates the Bill of Rights. The right promotes the Bill of Rights and that is good.

I as a libertarian will gladly be allies with the right in their battle against the left.

There will always be things to bitch about with the right, but there is also plenty worthy of praise if you choose to acknowledge it.

Between the left and right, the greater good is on the right and our great hope lies in developing what is good. Thus the choice is obvious, develop the right.

[acptulsa]

I The Democrat party is a lost cause. The GOP is the only viable path to develop what is good from what I see.

First you say, 'This is the viable path,' then you say, 'There is no viable path.' And that is exactly why the GOP never bothers to accomplish anything much--because all they have to do to get by is throw their voters the occasional bone.

'I have found it advisable not to give too much heed to what people say when I am trying to accomplish something of consequence. Invariably they proclaim it can't be done. I deem that the very best time to make the effort.'--Calvin Coolidge

[Cleaner44]

First you say, 'This is the viable path,' then you say, 'There is no viable path.' And that is exactly why the GOP never bothers to accomplish anything much--because all they have to do to get by is throw their voters the occasional bone.

'I have found it advisable not to give too much heed to what people say when I am trying to accomplish something of consequence. Invariably they proclaim it can't be done. I deem that the very best time to make the effort.'--Calvin Coolidge

No, that is not what I am saying.

The GOP is the only viable path to develop what is good from what I see. I stand by this.

I am not saying 'There is no viable path.' Seems pretty clear to me.

I like how Trump is leading the GOP much better than the neocons did. I like how the media has been exposed greater than ever before. I like how the socialists in the Democrat party are being exposed.

It isn't the libertarian solution I would have like to have seen from a President Ron Paul, but it does have its positives.

Your mileage may vary.

P.S.
I think the D.C. establishment would have destroyed Ron Paul, as he is a nice guy and he wouldn't have been able to fight back as effectively as Trump.

[Swordsmyth]

No, that is not what I am saying.

The GOP is the only viable path to develop what is good from what I see. I stand by this.

I am not saying 'There is no viable path.' Seems pretty clear to me.

I like how Trump is leading the GOP much better than the neocons did. I like how the media has been exposed greater than ever before. I like how the socialists in the Democrat party are being exposed.

It isn't the libertarian solution I would have like to have seen from a President Ron Paul, but it does have its positives.

Your mileage may vary.

P.S.
I think the D.C. establishment would have destroyed Ron Paul, as he is a nice guy and he wouldn't have been able to fight back as effectively as Trump.

Trump isn't the President we want but he is the President we need.

[Origanalist]

No, that is not what I am saying.

The GOP is the only viable path to develop what is good from what I see. I stand by this.

I am not saying 'There is no viable path.' Seems pretty clear to me.

I like how Trump is leading the GOP much better than the neocons did. I like how the media has been exposed greater than ever before. I like how the socialists in the Democrat party are being exposed.

It isn't the libertarian solution I would have like to have seen from a President Ron Paul, but it does have its positives.

Your mileage may vary.

P.S.
I think the D.C. establishment would have destroyed Ron Paul, as he is a nice guy and he wouldn't have been able to fight back as effectively as Trump.

Oh, I don't know. Seems to me he could muster all the fortitude he needed when there was a call for it. He just wasn't non stop belligerent.

[devil21]

https://apnews.com/22c06ecce9dc430f9a9620af8282b2f9

12:15 p.m.

President Donald Trump says the Justice Department will begin a stronger crackdown on violent crime in the United States.

Trump spoke Monday at the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Chicago.

The president says the crackdown will target gang members and drug traffickers in high-crime areas. He says: “Let’s call it the surge.”

Trump says the crackdown will be announced by Attorney General William Barr in the next few weeks. He says the best way to combat gun violence is to put criminals with firearms behind bars.

The Justice Department has prioritized reducing violent crime and encouraged prosecutors to take a strong stance against repeat offenders and felons in possession of firearms.

The contents of the Executive Order he signed, declaring further federalization of state and local LEOs, is here (it's a doozy):
https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...ation-justice/

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to enhance public safety and support the well-ordered administration of justice, it is hereby ordered as follows:

It starts out there but quickly becomes about how DOJ will start to take over state and local LEO in violation of the 10th amendment.