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    Meet The Southern Poverty Law Center

    Meet The Southern Poverty Law Center

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    $#@! Morris Dees.

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    SPLC Scam Exposed by NY Post Reporter
    http://nypost.com/2016/12/05/report-...st-white-kids/
    “Didn’t it seem odd to you that within days of Donald Trump’s election the LMS (Lying Media Scum) were all uniformly “reporting” a “shocking” increase in “hate crimes” (against Clinton supporters) in schools all over America? How could data on such a thing have been gathered so quickly? How could literally thousands of “hate crimes” have been verified so quickly? And if there is so much simmering “hate” in the schools, why did the perpetrators wait until the election was over to express it? …

    this is just the latest Big Lie from the left-wing hate group known as the Soviet Poverty Law Center (SPLC) … The SPLC sent out an email survey to the extreme left wing, belligerent teachers union known as the American Federation of Teachers, which was a big time Hillary Clinton supporter. The teachers were asked about “hate crimes” which, according to the Soviet Poverty Law Center, includes saying “build the wall” in school. Naturally, thousands of leftist “teachers” reported such “hate crimes,” NONE of which were verified or verifiable. All word of mouth.

    It turns out that someone involved in the Soviet Poverty Law Center’s “survey” goofed and included in the email the question of hate crimes against white students. … More than 2000 of them were reported to the Soviet Poverty Law Center, but The SPLC failed to mention these anti-white student hate crimes in its “report.” Indeed, the 2000 figure is likely to be a gross understatement as much as the “hate crimes” against non-white students is a gross overstatement. …
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...atest-big-lie/


    Left-wing Hate Group SPLC Caught in Their Own Phoney Baloney Lies Once Again
    (Any False Scaremongering to Needlessly Foster Animosity and Scare Up Fundraising to Fill the Pockets of rich Mr. Dees.)

    http://nypost.com/2016/12/05/report-...st-white-kids/

    At least 2,000 educators around the country reported racist slurs and other derogatory language leveled against white students in the first days after Donald Trump was elected president. But the group that surveyed the teachers didn’t publish the results in its report on Trump-related “hate crimes.”

    The Southern Poverty Law Center partnered with the American Federation of Teachers, which formally endorsed Hillary Clinton, to circulate the questionnaire … The SPLC’s widely cited report — “The Trump Effect: The Impact of the 2016 Presidential Election on Our Nation’s Schools” — reported that 40 percent of the more than 10,000 educators who responded … “have heard derogatory language directed at students of color, Muslims, immigrants and people based on gender or sexual orientation.” The takeaway was that Trump-supporting white kids have been harassing minorities at the nation’s schools. And … sparked breathless coverage in the New York Times, Washington Post and other major media. …

    But the SPLC didn’t present the whole story. [SPLC] self-censored results from a key question it asked educators … “I have heard derogatory language or slurs about white students.” … Pressed, SPLC spokeswoman Kirsten Bokenkamp finally revealed that “about 20 percent answered affirmatively to that question.” … “They left that result out because it would not fit their ideological narrative,” former Education Department civil rights attorney Hans Bader said. “It was deemed an inconvenient truth.” Suppressing reports of crimes against Trump supporters gives a one-sided and misleading view of post-election discord.

    Founded in 1971, SPLC … receives funding from leftist groups, including ones controlled by billionaire George Soros. … its board members have contributed more than $13,400 to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaigns.

    Bader says SPLC has an agenda to derail the Trump administration before it starts. “These flawed SPLC reports will be cited by left-wing special interests to try to block the confirmation of moderate and conservative people to posts such as attorney general by falsely making it look like America’s schools and streets are pervaded by bigotry,” …

    But the SPLC acknowledges that it has not independently verified any of the claims. It collected most of them on its website, many anonymously.

    The group won’t use its $315 million in assets to investigate the “hate crimes,” or at least help alleged victims file police reports or provide them counseling or other assistance, but it has offered “sympathy.” …

    Bader pointed out that most of the anti-minority “hate crimes” and “hate incidents” cited by SPLC do not legally constitute hate crimes, and many involve constitutionally protected speech. “It is simply ridiculous that SPLC treats ‘build the wall’ as hate rhetoric,” he said. The center counted people mentioning “build the wall” as 467 incidents of hate.

    “Alas, these days the SPLC is mainly a fundraising machine,” said Gail Heriot, a US Commission on Civil Rights member who voted against Friday’s resolution. “The more it can persuade its donors that hate groups have penetrated every nook and cranny of American society, the more money it can raise. Now it wants us to believe that the election has unleashed unprecedented waves of hatred and violence among schoolchildren. Let’s stop and take a deep breath before we assume that’s true. The SPLC has no credibility with anyone — on the left or the right — who is familiar with its methods.” …


    (Not a big fan of Kristol's Weekly Standard, but this cover is accurate).
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    "I'm mad that those racists correctly called me a racist." -Most People Either Applauding/Criticizing The SPLC

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    $#@! Morris Dees.
    I think you might have said that a couple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "I'm mad that those racists correctly called me a racist." -Most People Either Applauding/Criticizing The SPLC
    You lost me on that one.



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    Catherine Bleish is awesome, she was in my Ron Paul 2008 meetup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You lost me on that one.
    Let me translate:

    "If you disagree with the SPLC you're more than likely a closet racist."

    Racist, cisgender, white, male, $#@!lord you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "I'm mad that those racists correctly called me a racist." -Most People Either Applauding/Criticizing The SPLC
    The reality is I am mad at the SPLC for labeling supporters of Ron Paul domestic terrorists, and worthy of extra secret state surveillance.

    But if it really means I'm a racist, oh well.

    No $#@!s given, do not care anymore.

    In this current environment, I'm a racist scumbag no matter what I do, so, $#@! it.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-13-2017 at 06:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    You lost me on that one.
    Most of the people the SPLC calls racists are racists (from frothing at the mouth NAZIs to the relatively harmless Mexicuns r takin muh jerbs types). And, on the other side, most of the people supporting the SPLC are also racists (from Black Panther types to mindless liberal arts drones). My overarching point (...which needs to be made a lot these days), is that libertarians don't have a dog in this fight. The culture war (of which the back and forth about the SPLC is an example) is being fought between two equally monstrous groups that both hate our guts and we shouldn't be rooting for either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Most of the people the SPLC calls racists are racists (from frothing at the mouth NAZIs to the relatively harmless Mexicuns r takin muh jerbs types). And, on the other side, most of the people supporting the SPLC are also racists (from Black Panther types to mindless liberal arts drones). My overarching point (...which needs to be made a lot these days), is that libertarians don't have a dog in this fight. The culture war (of which the back and forth about the SPLC is an example) is being fought between two equally monstrous groups that both hate our guts and we shouldn't be rooting for either.
    What a stupid comment, obviously you haven't been paying attention to the fact that the SPLC has been targeting all sorts of right-wing groups from those who support gun rights to those opposed to abortion, those opposed to police abuse and those who advocate for very small government and labeling them as radical racist hate groups.

    Yes, anybody who believes in small government absolutely has a dog in the fight against the SPLC.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Catherine Bleish is awesome, she was in my Ron Paul 2008 meetup.
    And she thinks RP is a traitor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Nobody's perfect
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Most of the people the SPLC calls racists are racists (from frothing at the mouth NAZIs to the relatively harmless Mexicuns r takin muh jerbs types). And, on the other side, most of the people supporting the SPLC are also racists (from Black Panther types to mindless liberal arts drones). My overarching point (...which needs to be made a lot these days), is that libertarians don't have a dog in this fight. The culture war (of which the back and forth about the SPLC is an example) is being fought between two equally monstrous groups that both hate our guts and we shouldn't be rooting for either.
    Wrong. They target all kinds of groups and label them as hate groups, including libertarians.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What a stupid comment, obviously you haven't been paying attention to the fact that the SPLC has been targeting all sorts of right-wing groups from those who support gun rights to those opposed to abortion, those opposed to police abuse and those who advocate for very small government and labeling them as radical racist hate groups.

    Yes, anybody who believes in small government absolutely has a dog in the fight against the SPLC.
    Therefore, we should ally with other people who do the same thing.



    It's sad that so many libertarians (former?) are now the useful idiots of people like Beck.

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    Last edited by r3volution 3.0; 11-13-2017 at 05:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Therefore, we should ally with other people who do the same thing.

    I can fight on more than one front at a time, can you walk and chew gum at the same time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I can fight on more than one front at a time
    The one fight directly undermines the other.

    I can type with one hand and hold DELETE with the other, but that would be dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The one fight directly undermines the other.
    Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Nobody's perfect

    Even AJ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Most of the people the SPLC calls racists are racists
    What a ignorant and accusation. You mean like anarcho-capitalists, or the Tenth Amendment Center, or Oathkeepers, or various Tea Party groups, or the Constitution Party, or Ron Paul supporters, Family Research Council, or lewrockwell.com, or WeAreChange.org, Freedom's Phoenix, Alliance Defending Freedom, Liberty Counsel, WoldNetDaily, Gun Owners of America/Larry Pratt, Eagle Forum, former Libertarian Party Presidential nominee Michael Badnarik, Chuck Baldwin, Joe Bannister, Alex Jones, Doug Casey, and many many others which have all been targeted victims by SPLC smear campaign as extremist or hate groups.

    The SPLC is a fraud, a fake scaremonger, a scam.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    The SPLC is an extreme leftist political activist organization pushing radical collectivist leftist ideology under the masquerade of fighting hate groups. Their website is plastered with pictures vile hate spewing of swastikas and nutzo Klansman (which is mostly FBI provocateurs leading and exploiting semi-retarded patsies). Of course these are insignificant nothings, roundly and nearly universally condemned and virtually zero power and influence.

    Having no legitimate real opposition targets to use for scaremongering and more importantly fundraising, the SPLC has to manufacture fictional, imaginary hate groups to condemn so it can con more dupes to fill its coffers with millions. Racketeering in fear and defamation for riches. Of which, between 68 to 89% of revenues are poured right back into more fundraising efforts. https://www.splcenter.org/sites/defa..._fs_103116.pdf

    So the SPLC goes after a myriad of unrelated others, many of which are philosophically and ideologically diametrically opposite of the vile collectivist outfits noted above. Under its “Hatewatch” tab it specifically states its goal is to expose not hate, but rather the “American radical right.” Of course to SPLC, anyone who does not subscribe to its leftist ideology is “radical right.”

    The goal is to irrationally smear and associate all those that disagree with their totalitarian leftist political ideology as somehow connected and the moral equivalent of Nazis and Klansmen. These targets of the SPLC include libertarians, conservatives, Christians, free marketers, and anyone they disagree with politically.

    Specific targets of the SPLC have included Ron Paul supporters, Oathkeepers, WeAreChange.org , the Bundy ranchers, border security advocates, lewrockwell.com, Tenth Amendment Center, Tea Party groups, Alliance Defending Freedom, Family Research Council, National Christian Foundation, Center for Immigration Studies, WorldNetDaily, Alex Jones, the Constitution Party, Freedom’s Phoenix, Doug Casey, Michael Badnarik, Liberty Dollar, anarcho-capitalist, Eagle Forum and many more

    The SPLC is nothing more than a money begging fraudulent scam political operation.

    More:
    http://thoughtsonliberty.com/militia...s-in-new-study
    http://tomwoods.com/splc-attacks-dangerous-extremists/
    http://libertarianviewpoint.com/blog...nter-hit-list/
    http://reason.com/blog/2012/12/17/sh...ople-splc-targ
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.d540cef7ab44
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...aires-why.html
    http://www.constitutionpreservation....enter-hit-list
    https://archive.is/lpQ5k
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...ong-there.html
    http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF17J27.pdf
    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/opi...cam/666904001/
    http://www.resistancemedia.org/2017/...aw-center.html
    http://humanevents.com/2006/12/11/so...ition-of-hate/
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/king-o...article/714573
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/section/splc
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    My overarching point (...which needs to be made a lot these days), is that libertarians don't have a dog in this fight.
    Yes, we do, when the SPLC, which has the ear of government, labels us domestic terrorists.



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    Sounds like a good time to post this handy booklet on the SPLC and the ADL

    http://fakehatecrimes.org/The-Watchd...ird-Wilcox.pdf

    Forward

    Any criticism of so-called anti-racist “Watchdog”1 organizations and activists is not
    without its perils. In the “either/or” and “good guys versus bad guys” mentality that
    characterizes the moral absolutism of the anti-racist milieu it’s easy to be misunderstood.
    Most people, unaware of the ideological roots of many anti-racist activists or their general
    disdain for the civil liberties of their critics, regard them as reasonable response to
    legitimate grievances - which in certain cases they may be.
    ...
    There is an anti-racist industry entrenched in the United States that has attracted
    bullying, moralizing fanatics, whose identity and livelihood depend upon growth and
    expansion of their particular kind of victimization. In certain respects the anti-racist
    movement has become a massive extortion racket, as lawyers have used every nuance of
    civil rights and equal opportunity laws to extract massive judgments for objectively lesser
    offenses, and anti-racist street fanatics have attacked and vilified individuals for their
    values, opinions and beliefs. This is not what the civil rights movement was originally
    about.
    This was not written in 2016 but 20 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, we do, when the SPLC, which has the ear of government, labels us domestic terrorists.
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%

    Chance that us throwing in our lot with teocons/Trumpkins/Levin/Beck/Hannity/similar-douches helps said douches and hurts us politically? 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "I'm mad that those racists correctly called me a racist." -Most People Either Applauding/Criticizing The SPLC
    Wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Most of the people the SPLC calls racists are racists (from frothing at the mouth NAZIs to the relatively harmless Mexicuns r takin muh jerbs types). And, on the other side, most of the people supporting the SPLC are also racists (from Black Panther types to mindless liberal arts drones). My overarching point (...which needs to be made a lot these days), is that libertarians don't have a dog in this fight. The culture war (of which the back and forth about the SPLC is an example) is being fought between two equally monstrous groups that both hate our guts and we shouldn't be rooting for either.
    Wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%

    Chance that us throwing in our lot with teocons/Trumpkins/Levin/Beck/Hannity/similar-douches helps said douches and hurts us politically? 100%
    Strawman. No one is throwing in with anyone over this. You are either terribly naive, or you have some other agenda.
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    SPLC Defends Antifa:

    "the Soviet Poverty Lie Center (SPLC) ... has refused to label “Antifa” as one of its “hate groups.” [Yet] The Singing Nuns are on its list … as is almost every conservative and libertarian organization in America. The American Enterprise Institute was condemned by the SPLC … It was the SPLC, under contract with the Department of Fatherland Security, that advised during the Obama administration that anyone with a “Ron Paul for President’ bumper sticker should be considered to be a potential terrorist. …"
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Chance that the SPLC convinces the government to label us a terrorist group? 0%
    What the $#@! are you on about?

    SPLC has already labeled Ron Paul supporters as potential terrorists.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by milgram View Post
    Sounds like a good time to post this handy booklet on the SPLC and the ADL

    http://fakehatecrimes.org/The-Watchd...ird-Wilcox.pdf

    There is an anti-racist industry entrenched in the United States that has attracted
    bullying, moralizing fanatics, whose identity and livelihood depend upon growth and
    expansion of their particular kind of victimization. In certain respects the anti-racist
    movement has become a massive extortion racket, as lawyers have used every nuance of
    civil rights and equal opportunity laws to extract massive judgments for objectively lesser
    offenses, and anti-racist street fanatics have attacked and vilified individuals for their
    values, opinions and beliefs. This is not what the civil rights movement was originally
    about.


    This was not written in 2016 but 20 years ago
    Which is why I have adopted a "no $#@!'s given" attitude towards being labeled "racist" (or any other -ist or -phobe for that matter).

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