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  1. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    No, tell me.
    It was none of Europe's business, they never should have occupied the area,WWI and WWII were travesties.
    The situation is complex because the Arabs agreed to give the Jews a homeland in return for Jewish financing of the Arab revolt but there are no clean hands and nobody is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If we let in anyone who wants to come in without limits it is possible, especially if/when a monetary crisis/collapse/civil war happens.
    So your main concern is mestizos seceding in the event of a social collapse caused by the policies supported by native voters?

  4. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    So you're main concern is mestizos seceding in the event of a social collapse caused by native, largely white voters?
    My main concern is illegals and their anchor-babies voting Demoncrat and causing social collapse, then there is the crime they bring and the jobs they steal, THEN comes their "Reconquista".
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  5. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
    If somebody broke into your house and raped your daughter, you would give the IRS your money to build a fetishistic boondoggle?
    Only a weirdo, who can think up something like that, would do what you have suggested.


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  6. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    My main concern is illegals and their anchor-babies voting Demoncrat and causing social collapse, then there is the crime they bring and the jobs they steal, THEN comes their "Reconquista".
    1) illegals can't vote
    2) Hispanic voter turnout is far below that of white voters.

  7. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    1) illegals can't vote
    THEY DO, I guess you think there are no school shootings because it is a "gun free zone".
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    2) Hispanic voter turnout is far below that of white voters.
    In an already divided country it doesn't take a majority to swing an election.
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  9. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Did a beaner break into your house and rape your daughter? How horrible.
    I'm confident that would never happen, and for several reasons, one being I have a 6" grouping at 75 feet.


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  10. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    My main concern is illegals and their anchor-babies voting Demoncrat and causing social collapse
    What's the budget deficit going to be this year...?

    It's obvious to anyone who cares to see that a GOP controlled government is not smaller than a Democrat controlled government.

    As I said, there's no important difference a socialist rabble and a nationalist rabble (and they tend to overlap anyway).

    jobs they steal
    Jobs are property?

    ...silly me, I thought they were a matter of contract.

    How long shall the person who "steals" my job, who my employer prefers to employ because he is more productive, spend in prison for his crime?

    *any bolshevik could (and does) speak of the same "theft" of jobs; he'd just put in class rather than racial terms (same nonsense)

  11. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    THEY DO, I guess you think there are no school shootings because it is a "gun free zone".
    You are right. There was that one person they found who did. She voted Republican in 2012. Couldn't find others though.

    In an already divided country it doesn't take a majority to swing an election.
    Also true. Trump didn't even win the popular vote and still got the job.

  12. #220
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb...forum-20120201

    Ron Paul.

    "I believe Hispanics have been used as scapegoats, to say, they're the problem instead of being a symptom maybe of a problem with the welfare state," Paul told the group. "In Nazi Germany they had to have scapegoats to blame and they turned on the Jews.


    "Now there's a lot of antagonism and resentment turned just automatically on immigrants," he continued. "You say, no not immigrants, it's just illegal immigrants. I do believe in legal immigration. I want to have a provision to obey those laws. You have to understand this in the context of the economy."

    Paul said he's not one of those politicians who believes that "barbed-wire fences and guns on our border will solve any of our problems." That's not, he said, the American way. And he doesn't think that a national identification card is the way to go.

    What the country does need, he said, is "a much better immigration service" fed by more resources. Not that he'd "vote for extra money." But he does, he told the crowd, have a plan.

  13. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    THEY DO, I guess you think there are no school shootings because it is a "gun free zone".

    In an already divided country it doesn't take a majority to swing an election.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.
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  14. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    What's the budget deficit going to be this year...?

    It's obvious to anyone who cares to see that a GOP controlled government is not smaller than a Democrat controlled government.

    As I said, there's no important difference a socialist rabble and a nationalist rabble (and they tend to overlap anyway).
    RINO's are closet Demoncrats, if the Demoncrats didn't hold so many seats the RINO's wouldn't have the excuse to "compromise" and would be vulnerable to primary contests or 3rd parties.

    RINOs are bad but Demoncrats in control of all three branches are much worse.



    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Jobs are property?

    ...silly me, I thought they were a matter of contract.

    How long shall the person who "steals" my job, who my employer prefers to employ because he is more productive, spend in prison for his crime?

    *any bolshevik could (and does) speak of the same "theft" of jobs; he'd just put in class rather than racial terms (same nonsense)
    Jobs are opportunity, those opportunities are not legally theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Those 'scapegoats' will have a majority soon and their consensus will be driving us further over the cliff. Look at the elections in Central America and Mexico. Raving lunatic socialists at the top of the ticket that make America's look mild.

  16. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Well, I start off with saying that it`s a big problem. I don`t like to get involved with the Federal Government very much, but I do think it is a federal responsibility to protect our borders....And that`s why I don`t think our border guards should be sent to Iraq, like we`ve done. I think we need more border guards. But to have the money and the personnel, we have to bring our troops home from Iraq. Ron Paul


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    Totally free immigration! I`ve never taken that position...Well, you work on both. The most important is the welfare state, but you can still beef up your borders and get rid of some incentives for illegals....Ron Paul


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  18. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Those 'scapegoats' will have a majority soon and their consensus will be driving us further over the cliff. Look at the elections in Central America and Mexico. Raving lunatic socialists at the top of the ticket that make America's look mild.
    According to projections, even by 2065 (almost 50 years from now) Whites will be twice as numerous as Hispanics. It is the Asians you need to watch out for. They are the fastest growing group these days (and top Hispanics in both legal and illegal immigration). Another thing to take into account is that the more generations immigrants are in the country, the more they become like everybody else.

    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 04-04-2018 at 07:19 PM.

  19. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Another thing to take into account is that the more generations immigrants are in the country, the more they become like everybody else.
    And the more everybody else becomes like them.
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  20. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    RINO's are closet Demoncrats
    If by "RINO's" you mean the entire Republican Party save Rand Paul and half a dozen other guys, yea.

    QED (about them being the same)

    if the Demoncrats didn't hold so many seats the RINO's wouldn't have the excuse to "compromise" and would be vulnerable to primary contests or 3rd parties.
    The GOP promotes ever bigger government because that's what the overwhelmingly majority of the base wants.

    Even if a handful of them (like former Ron Paul supporters) say they want smaller government, they're easily lured by nationalism or other distractions (culture war, ISIS!). The key thing to understand about any party, in any democracy, is that 99% of the voters have not the foggiest clue what's going on and simply react to the infantile propaganda they're fed. There is no great liberty-loving faction in America, or anywhere else, and there never was, or ever will be. A liberal politician winning is a function of his skill at manipulating essentially indifferent (if not actively illiberal) voters into voting for him through sheer force of personality (Ron), if not pure dumb luck. Whereas, socialism and nationalism, the true religions of the people, will always do well at the polls.

    RINOs are bad but Demoncrats in control of all three branches are much worse.
    So sayeth Mitch McConnell.

    Jobs are opportunity, those opportunities are not legally theirs.
    You didn't answer my question:

    If my employer chooses to fire me and hire someone else, how long should my replacement spend in prison for his theft?

    Or how much should he pay through a civil action?

  21. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And the more everybody else becomes like them.
    Which is their right.

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    President has officially deployed National Guard Troops to the Mexican border

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    ”Wednesday evening, a senior administration official said the president had signed a proclamation authorizing the National Guard to assist the border patrol.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And the more everybody else becomes like them.
    I could not care less what color they are. Their culture is wholly incompatible with libertarianism or any type of conservative thought. That's what really sticks in my craw. Much of the demographic polling shows how 'progressive' Hispanics are. They are largely anti-2nd Amendment and hostile to free market principles as well as the Bill of Rights.
    Last edited by AuH20; 04-04-2018 at 07:14 PM.

  24. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    If by "RINO's" you mean the entire Republican Party save Rand Paul and half a dozen other guys, yea.
    Yeah, I really don't understand the term RINO.

    If RINO means Republican in name only, then the very people that label should be applied to are the ones who, like Rand Paul, put principle over party. And the establishment shills should be castigated precisely for *not* being RINOs.

  25. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I could care less what color they are.
    Oh.

    Then who was the "us" you mentioned in post 223 who will eventually no longer be in the majority? Right-handed people?



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  27. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Yeah, I really don't understand the term RINO.

    If RINO means Republican in name only, then the very people that label should be applied to are the ones who, like Rand Paul, put principle over party. And the establishment shills should be castigated precisely for *not* being RINOs.
    That very sensible analysis is at least 30 syllables too long to impact the average voter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Oh.

    Then who was the "us" you mentioned in post 223 who will eventually no longer be in the majority? Right-handed people?
    Americans who don't hail from the southern lands.

  29. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Which is their right.
    But it isn't a right of the foreigners to come here and influence the natives, doubly so for illegals.
    We have a right to limit foreign influence on our politics through immigration.
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  30. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    But it isn't a right of the foreigners to come here and influence the natives, doubly so for illegals.
    We have a right to limit foreign influence on our politics through immigration.
    "We" have no right to participate in politics (i.e. highly organized crime) at all.

    This is not a corporation; you are not a shareholder.

    Voting to seize your neighbor's property or restrict his enjoyment of it (restrict his right to contract, etc) is not a right.

    The only purpose of politics (which is a regrettable necessity) is to protect property rights.

    Anything that better protects property rights is good; anything that impairs property rights is bad.

    If you, let alone the mestizos, voting does the latter (as it invariably does), that is bad.

  31. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    If by "RINO's" you mean the entire Republican Party save Rand Paul and half a dozen other guys, yea.

    QED (about them being the same)
    There are RINOs and there are less than perfect Republicans and then there are liberty candidates like Rand.



    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The GOP promotes ever bigger government because that's what the overwhelmingly majority of the base wants.

    Even if a handful of them (like former Ron Paul supporters) say they want smaller government, they're easily lured by nationalism or other distractions (culture war, ISIS!). The key thing to understand about any party, in any democracy, is that 99% of the voters have not the foggiest clue what's going on and simply react to the infantile propaganda they're fed. There is no great liberty-loving faction in America, or anywhere else, and there never was, or ever will be. A liberal politician winning is a function of his skill at manipulating essentially indifferent (if not actively illiberal) voters into voting for him through sheer force of personality (Ron), if not pure dumb luck. Whereas, socialism and nationalism, the true religions of the people, will always do well at the polls.
    The people want less government until they are lead astray, too many are easily swayed by appeals to emotion and therefore we need liberty candidates that can appeal to their emotions.

    P.S. there is no liberty without enough nationalism to protect it.


    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    So sayeth Mitch McConnell.
    So sayeth the Demoncrats, they trumpet their communism these days.



    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    You didn't answer my question:

    If my employer chooses to fire me and hire someone else, how long should my replacement spend in prison for his theft?

    Or how much should he pay through a civil action?
    If he is here legally he didn't steal anything, all Americans and those we grant the privilege of coming here have an equal right to try for the opportunities here.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  32. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    "We" have no right to participate in politics (i.e. highly organized crime) at all.

    This is not a corporation; you are not a shareholder.

    Voting to seize your neighbor's property or restrict his enjoyment of it (restrict his right to contract, etc) is not a right.

    The only purpose of politics (which is a regrettable necessity) is to protect property rights.

    Anything that better protects property rights is good; anything that impairs property rights is bad.

    If you, let alone the mestizos, voting does the latter (as it invariably does), that is bad.
    Immigration and politics are a property rights issue, we've had this conversation before so I won't go any deeper than this:
    My liberty is my property and I have a right to defend it from foreigners who would come here and vote to take it away, the fact that I already have to deal with domestic enemies only makes the foreign threat worse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  33. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    There are RINOs and there are less than perfect Republicans and then there are liberty candidates like Rand.
    And the weighted average results in massive spending increases and no meaningful reforms of any kind.

    The people want less government until they are lead astray, too many are easily swayed by appeals to emotion and therefore we need liberty candidates that can appeal to their emotions.
    So you acknowledge that they are led by emotion, not reason?

    P.S. there is no liberty without enough nationalism to protect it.
    Liberty has been in steady decline since nationalism (and democracy and socialism, its bosom brothers) arrived in the world.

    Large mobs of poorly educated people make poor decisions (shocking!).

    See: the Austrian aristocrat and also Austrian-in-the-other-sense who graces my signature line.

    So sayeth the Demoncrats, they trumpet their communism these days
    McConnell is telling you that you need to vote GOP to make sure that...they (the GOP?) don't increase spending even more, no?

    If he is here legally he didn't steal anything, all Americans and those we grant the privilege of coming here have an equal right to try for the opportunities here.
    I see.

    So, employers should be prohibited from employing persons they wish to employ if the majority of the community objects?

  34. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    P.S. there is no liberty without enough nationalism to protect it.
    Nations do not protect Liberty. You know nothing.



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