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pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..
Trump lost by more than 7 million votes. Trump claims 2.7 million votes were flipped to Biden. So that would be a move of 5.4 million votes. By Trumps on account he lost the popular vote. Ronald Reagan won the popular vote by 16.7 million votes and won every state except one. You are the biggest liar in history.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Trump never admitted he lost the popular vote (he never admitted the popular vote counts were accurate, ever). Yes, he claimed that 2.7M were flipped, but it's also true he only lost by about 40,000 votes to change the outcome of the election (just like he won by only 100,000 votes in 2016)
This is why he said "just" he wanted to find 12,000 in GA.
Please don't challenge Trump's crown, he's still the biggest liar in history.
Last edited by PRB; 02-17-2021 at 02:50 AM.
pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..
I'm not a Trump fan, by any means, but you don't have to parrot the MSM line. That's not what he was saying. In context, he was saying there were all sorts of problems throughout the state, and his people put them into different categories - if the governor and his staff didn't want to get into each case, they just had to look at one category and it'd be enough.
It may be important if you want to call someone a liar that you have your facts straight. Just sayin'.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Trump has not made a definitive claim about how many votes were flipped in total, he has made some claims about at least a certain amount being flipped, far more were than he needs to claim or prove to reverse the results.
Then there are all the Trump votes that were destroyed and the Biden votes that were invented out of thin air.
Biden lost by more than Reagan won by easily.
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Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
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I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
The 2.7 million flipped number hasn't even been proven.
Come up with an actual number then. You won't because you can't.Then there are all the Trump votes that were destroyed and the Biden votes that were invented out of thin air.
Biden lost by more than Reagan won by easily.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
That is one report of some of the votes switched, destroyed and invented, we have seen evidence of far more and Trump does not say that is the limit of it.
I don't have to provide an exact number and can't because so far nobody will have the investigations required to provide an exact number.
The fraud amounted to tens of millions of votes and erased the biggest landslide in history, Trump won more votes than any POTUS ever even after all of the fraud and there is no way Biden came anywhere close based on the evidence of fraud we have and the total lack of popularity and enthusiasm for him combined with his total wreck of a campaign.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
not at all contradicting what I said.
My point was, it's a fact that by only about 40,000 votes, in the closest states (AZ, WI, GA, total of 37 electoral votes, then NE-2, 1 electoral vote), Trump could have won, including GA by about 12,000 votes.
That's why he settled for "just find these", even if flipping GA wouldn't be enough to get him to 270
People who said 269/269 was impossible were relying on the fact that some states called their elections earlier, and GA was recounted too.
I was calling Trump a liar for his reputation of lying, not for anything in this call with Raffensperger.
Last edited by PRB; 02-17-2021 at 02:51 AM.
pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm just not a pathological liar either. You and @Swordsmyth are mirror images of each other, going on pushing false claims in the face of contrary evidence.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Of course you do. Do you and @Swordsmyth still share a cubicle, or do they have you two working from home now?
Technically, President Trump was just quoting journalists at OAN. However, their website lays it all out quite well.
https://www.oann.com/tag/voter-fraud/
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
For starters:
https://www.oann.com/evidence-of-for...ection-mounts/
https://www.oann.com/every-legal-vot...speaks-to-oan/
https://www.oann.com/project-veritas...raud-evidence/
https://www.oann.com/coming-up-on-in-focus/
https://www.oann.com/fulton-county-g...irector-fired/
https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...lots-pa-may-be
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
So none of them?
It's looking like in post #137 when you claimed that OANN laid out the evidence for those claims at the link you provided, you might have been lying, and actually were not aware of any article at that link where they did that. Were you?
If not, could you just link the actual article where that is done?
They did an expose' and I do not have the time now to spoon-feed you all the info.
https://www.oann.com/absoluteproof/
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
I'm at a loss about post 137 and all your follow ups.
What is the point of claiming that they laid out evidence to substantiate the claims in Trump's tweet, and providing first the link in post 137, and then several more, when not one of those links goes to a place where they do what you said?
It's not about spoon feeding. But you never had to make the claim or provide that link in the first place if you actually weren't aware of any article in the list that came up when following that link that did what you claimed.
Last edited by Invisible Man; 02-17-2021 at 10:41 AM.
I suspect that what happened was that Trump's tweet really was a quote from an article at OANN, but that they subsequently took that article down because they realized that they made false claims in that article and were no longer willing to stand by them.
Last edited by Invisible Man; 02-17-2021 at 10:49 AM.
Should states be allowed to cheat if they want? Why not? Should Governors and Mayors be allowed to let riots continue if they want? Should States and Cities decide they want more or less police present? Should they be able to decide what type of weapons and vehicles they use to neutralize crime in their own city or states?
You have exposed the @Swordsmyth paradox. Claim something is proven by pointing out that it isn't.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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