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    Exiled Chinese Billionaire Claims 1.5 Million Infected With Coronavirus, 50,000 Dead


    by Tyler Durden
    Sun, 02/09/2020 - 13:10

    Summary:

    • Virus death toll surpasses SARS (total: 813)
    • Exiled Chinese billionaire says true death toll closer to 50k, 1.5 million infected
    • New cases confirmed in UK, Spain, Singapore
    • Passengers aboard 'Diamond Princess' warn authorities aren't doing enough to protect them - and others
    • Officials in Shenzen say they won't block Foxxconn factory reopening
    • Cruise ship quarantined in Hong Kong allowed to leave after 4 days

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    Update (1300ET): A lot of epidemiologists and 'citizen journalists' have been throwing out numbers that they believe to be the true accurate counts of the number of people infected with the Wuhan coronavirus in China, as well as the true death toll.




    But exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui said Sunday, citing leaked information out of Wuhan, that the death toll could be as high as 50,000, as Chinese officials burn bodies to cover up the true extent of the crisis.



    1.5 million chinese infected with #coronavirus.​

    50,000 cremated.​


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    This isn't the first time we've heard about the regime burning bodies, rather, it's one of those 'conspiracy theories' that grows more credible every day.

    One reporter from the Epoch Times shared this map earlier showing the sulfur dioxide content in the air spiking over Wuhan.



    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    數據網站http://windy.com 的數字顯示,#武漢 地區的二氧化硫含量遠高於其他地區,而這通常是由在機物的焚燒所引起的……#武汉肺炎 疫情中,到底死了多少人了? https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1226267582740811777 …


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    Data from http://windy.com shows a massive release of sulfur dioxide gas from the outskirts of Wuhan, commonly associated with the burning of organic matters. Levels are elevated, even compared with the rest of China.​


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    Wengui also said he has information showing 1.5 million confirmed coronavirus cases in China. To be sure, this would contradict the theory that the ~3,000 or so new cases confirmed every day in China reflects restrictions on the supply of tests.

    50,000 deaths would be an incredible thing to cover up...but then again, this outbreak is the without a doubt the greatest crisis of cinfidence faced by the regime since the June 4th incident back in 1989.
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    Last night, we reported that Chengdu had been placed under strict lockdown, adding another 14.4 million Chinese to the 400 million+ already living under virtual house arrest across the country as Beijing struggles to contain the coronavirus outbreak that has already claimed more lives than SARS did during its nearly year-long run.




    And as fears about the economic fallout from the outbreak grow, the government in Shenzen, a city that has been on lockdown for a couple of days, reportedly denied rumors that it would prevent Foxconn from re-opening local factories. In a transparent to boost confidence in China's frozen manufacturing sector, local officials said the factor would reopen asap after inspections had finished.


    *Walter Bloomberg@DeItaOne

    The local government of the city of Shenzhen in southeastern China said on Sunday it had not blocked plans by Apple supplier Foxconn to resume production, adding that the company would restart once inspections were completed$AAPL
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    CNBC's Eunice Yoon, a reporter who has doggedly covered the outbreak from Beijing, warned that factories won't go back online across the country tomorrow, as Chinese officials had said. Instead, she expects the switch back to work would be gradual and depend largely on the whims of local officials. Only minutes ago, Chinese state media reported that the first workers would return to factories in 'batches'.

    Still, whether the Chinese economy can avoid the crash predicted by JPM remains unclear.

    In other news, one reporter from the Epoch Times, a newspaper that has assiduously covered the virus despite threats from the mainland government, said she believed based upon her research that the virus might be artificial, a question that others have raised.


    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    不太清楚。各种说法很多,各种可疑之处也很多。我趋于相信是人造病毒。希望科学家能尽快调查清 楚。 https://twitter.com/romeoalanya07/status/1226485788701069313 …
    Bay doğru ( sorarlarsa Adem dersiniz)@romeoalanya07
    Replying to @Jenniferatntd​
    Hi Jen. Can this be real ? 事情正在起变化。国际社会已经注意到新型冠状病毒是在武汉P4病毒实验室,由石正丽团队人工合成。石正丽2 015年在融资计划说明书中,明确提出要把舟山蝙蝠分离出的冠状病毒改造成适合人际传播的新病毒。现在流行 的新冠病毒就是在这种病毒中加入了艾滋,艾博拉基因片段
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    Out of all 31 provinces in China, Guangdong Province is quickly becoming the second-worst-hit after Hubei, even though the two provinces don't share a land border. The ET shared a video of a third makeshift nCoV hospital being built somewhere in the province, apparently.


    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    Probably somewhere in #Guangdong province(the man in the video speaks Cantonese), a huge temporary "hospital" under construction. 据说是 #广东 某地,大型临时医院在建,收容 #武汉肺炎 #新冠肺炎 病人。#Coronavirus #coronaviruschina #CoronavirusOutbreak #全民反抗 #全民自救


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    Meanwhile, more disturbing videos of Chinese resisting the forced quarantines have surfaced.


    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    Woman fighting fierecly, with a knife, against forced quanrantine, one of the many scenes in #China during #CoronavirusOutbreak. It was said she got taken away nevertheless. #Coronavirus #coronaviruschina 女子揮刀反强制隔离。据说最后还是被制服带走了。#武汉肺炎 #新冠肺炎


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    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    Someone says what she is saying is "People are innocent", or "People are guiltless". https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1226281659861028864 …
    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    Woman can no longer bear the lockdown...seems she is saying “people are suffering” . One of the many scenes in #China during #coronaviruschina #coronavirus #coronavirusoutbreak 说什么好呢?很多人早就在担心这种情况。#武汉肺炎 #新冠肺炎


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    Tensions between villagers and outsiders continue to run high as well.


    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    In an era of #coronavirus in #China , villagers failed to stop someone from going somewhere. #coronaviruschina 与其 #全民互害 互斗,不如全民一起反抗中共。#全民反抗 #全民自救 #全民互救 #武汉肺炎 #新冠肺炎


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    The bitterness felt toward the government has prompted the creation of memes and videos like this.


    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    WHAT IS THE REAL VIRUS?​
    誰才是真正的病毒?#coronavirus #CoronavirusOutbreak#武漢 #武漢肺炎 #天滅中共 #武昌起疫 #武汉肺炎 #新型冠状病毒


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    Quarantines have lasted for more than two weeks in some places, yet many outsiders still have no idea how those living under quarantine are surviving. This video offers an important clue:


    曾錚 Jennifer Zeng@jenniferatntd

    This is how you get your food supplies at the age of #coronavirus quarantine in a village in #China. #新冠肺炎 的封村时代,大家都过上平等的社会主义新生活了? #武汉肺炎 #coronaviruschina


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    Expanding on the death toll we reported last night, local officials confirmed 89 new deaths from the virus on Saturday, a number that many suspect might be wildly underrated following additional reports of Beijing cremating bodies that haven't yet been counted in the local statistics. Still, 89 is up from 86 fatalities on Friday, according to figures released early on Sunday by the country’s health authority, per the SCMP.

    Beijing also touted the fact that the number of new cases dropped on Saturday. Newly confirmed coronavirus cases in the mainland rose by 2,656 on Saturday, down from 3,385 new cases on Friday, according to China’s National Health Commission. The total number of mainland cases now stands at 37,198, plus an additional ~350 confirmed cases outside China. A local party chief in Wuhan has called on local health officials to finish testing all suspected cases in the city (remember, the government rounded them all up a few days ago) within two days, before the people riot and Beijing sends in the tanks.



    Britain and Spain on Sunday confirmed a new coronavirus case, bringing the total cases in the UK to four, while Spain now has two. In the UK, the infected person was a "known contact of a previously confirmed U.K. case" (who allegedly contracted the virus in a French ski chateau). The case in Spain is a British man who lives on Majorca. 6 new cases were confirmed on the cruise ship in Japan (we'll get into more on that later), while authorities in Hong Kong ended the four-day quarantine of another ship after finding no evidence of infections among its 3,600 passengers and crew, per NYT.

    New cases were also confirmed in Singapore (three new cases), while a new study published by Kyodo News found that half of all new infections occur within the virus's incubation period, bolstering theories that it spreads "silently" - ie before infected patients display symptoms.

    At least one of every two instances of human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus is believed to occur while the first patient is not yet showing symptoms, according to an estimate by a group of Japanese university researchers.​

    Based on its determination, the team, headed by Hokkaido University professor Hiroshi Nishiura, has called for preventive measures as well as reinforcing the medical care system against a potential sharp rise in coronavirus patients, rather than focusing exclusively on isolation as a way to contain the disease.​

    According to the estimate based on 26 human-to-human infection cases released by six countries such as China, Thailand and the United States, the timing of the secondary infection was shorter than previously thought.​

    Elsewhere, the government is fighting back against the torrent of criticism unleashed by the death of Dr. Li by claiming that the disruption is the work of foreign state actors - a classic trope invoked by the Chinese government to whitewash its mistakes. The Global Times, a pro-Communist Party tabloid, accused "Hong Kong secessionists and foreign entities" of trying to provoke public discord in China by sensationalizing Dr. Li Wenliang's death (he succumbed to the virus late last week).

    On Sunday morning, the NYT published one of the most extensive looks at life aboard the 'Diamond Princess', where more than 2,600 passengers (minus those who have tested positive and been taken to a hospital) are understandably going stir crazy while simultaneously being consumed by paranoia as they try to avoid a monster that can't be seen or heard.

    So far, more than 70 passengers and crew have tested positive for the virus, making the ship host to the largest coronavirus outbreak outside China. Quarantining the ship was a coup for Japanese health authorities:they successfully prevented what probably would have been a brutal outbreak in Japan, a country where more than 20% of the population are elderly and/or ailing.

    The NYT reporter makes it seem like she's talking to passengers directly, as if she were aboard the ship. But judging by the Dateline, the piece was reported entirely from Tokyo. Most of these conversations must have occurred via phone.



    One passenger described keeping track of the number of cases by counting the ambulances that arrive to cart away the infected.

    "Now we will start counting ambulances and know that’s the number being removed," said Sarah Arana, 52, a medical social worker from Paso Robles, Calif.​

    The same individual discussed strategies for limiting stress, since it weakens the immune system and makes one more vulnerable to infection.​

    "I know that stress and anxiety compromise my immune system," said Ms. Arana, who is on her first cruise. "My whole thing is just to stay calm, because no matter what, I’m here. But every day it’s anxiety-provoking when we see the ambulances line up on the side of the ship."​

    The quarantine of the Diamond Princess was imposed by Japanese health officials who learned that a man who had disembarked on Jan. 25 tested positive for the virus in Hong Kong.

    Another passenger told the NYT that they didn't understand why authorities were only testing people with symptoms (aka fevers) or who had direct contact with the infected man.

    "I do not now believe they are containing this epidemic by keeping us quarantined," said Gay Courter, 75, an American novelist and avid cruisegoer who was isolated in a cabin with her husband, Philip. "Something is wrong with the plan."​

    Some passengers speculate that the virus might be transmitted through the ship's ventilation system. Others worry it could be spread via the food. This is that kind of all-consuming paranoia, the kind that injects an element of terror into every daily interaction.

    "Nobody can tell us for certain," said Ms. Courter. "There’s no scientific evidence this is not being spread through food handlers or the people delivering the food, even in rubber gloves."​

    Passengers have been speculating that the virus could be transmitted through the ship’s air ventilation system. Some shared their concerns with the United States Embassy in Tokyo.​

    One rumor that spread like wildfire across the ship claimed the US government was working to evacuate Americans aboard the cruise ship. So far, that has not happened. Some passengers with chronic health issues like diabetes are extremely worried about running out of medicine.

    On Wednesday, Carol Montgomery, 67, a retired administrative assistant from San Clemente, Calif., had a low-grade fever. Her husband John, 68, a retired city planning director, was concerned about his diabetes, and about whether he should clean the air ventilator he uses every night for sleep apnea.​

    "We’re sitting inside this room and the number of cases is slowly rising," Mr. Montgomery said. "It’s just very disconcerting that we can’t get tested to figure out if we have it."​

    About as interesting as that NYT story is this piece by WSJ. It's a blatant piece of access journalism - the worst kind when you think about it since the reporters clearly got the green light from Communist Party officials - but the reporters found a way to outsmart censors and embed clues and hinted-at criticisms within the text.

    The report recounts a cross country journey undertaken by Shen Wufu, a young businessman who was quarantined in the Chinese city of Shantou after picking up the virus during a multi-city journey. Authorities aren't certain where he picked up the virus, but he believes it was during a brief stop in Wuhan on Jan. 18, a time when government officials were still actively suppressing news about the outbreak (or so many suspect).

    A map of his journey shows how the government's sluggish initial reaction to the virus placed millions in jeopardy. In reality, Shen isn't so different from the super-spreader we mentioned earlier, though the government might argue that they acted quickly enough to prevent this.



    To be sure, the paper noted that Shen is "living proof that some Chinese countermeasures are working," like the fact that he was eventually quarantined thanks to a pair of quick-thinking local officials (who we imagine will be scapegoated for failing to suppress the virus at the orders of the leadership).

    As it becomes increasingly clear that the outbreak is getting worse, not better, despite the supposed 'decline' in new cases (which is supposed to show that the state's heavy handed methods are working), the World Health Organization cautioned on Sunday against reading too much into those numbers, saying that Wuhan and Hubei remain in the middle of a "very serious outbreak."

    Though we didn't need the New York Times to figure that out.
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    From 1 December 2019 to 10 February 2020, a whopping 40,625 infected with the coronavirus have been reported, with 910 deaths, in more than 2 months and a week. It is estimated that a whopping 1% of those infected with the “mutated” coronavirus will die. In other words, only people that already have a compromised immune system will die...
    Is 910 deaths out of a population of 11 million (Wuhan) an epidemic or should we compare it to the 1.4 billion Chinese?!?

    Those 910 deaths are less than the amount of children that die in Yemen every single week of starvation (but never mind, even according to big pharma, starvation is NOT contagious): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6783053


    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter
    Be afraid, be terrified about this coronavirus media hysteria!
    And there it is - premeditated! Of course this coronavirus is only a test. When they do this once, the next time when they stage another “epidemic” it will seem normal, and of course nobody will think it’s strange that after the army enforces the quarantine more and more people die…


    Today, the UK government has introduced new totalitarian powers to forcibly quarantine people into isolation “for their own safety”, because it poses a serious and imminent threat, even though the risk level is only classed as “moderate”.
    The UK Department of Health and Social Care explained:
    In light of the recent public health emergency from the novel Coronavirus originating from Wuhan, the secretary of state has made regulations to ensure that the public are protected as far as possible from the transmission of the virus.
    In accordance with Regulation 3, the Secretary of State declares that the incidence or transmission of novel Coronavirus constitutes a serious and imminent threat to public health, and the measures outlined in these regulations are considered as an effective means of delaying or preventing further transmission of the virus.
    According to UK Health secretary Matt Hancock the totalitarian regulations are “an effective means of delaying or preventing further transmission”.
    The new legal measures are designed to “make it easier for health professionals to do their job”.

    A whopping 4 people have tested positive for the coronavirus in the UK, while 791 people in the UK have tested negative (this shows that they’re really searching hard to increase the amount of “confirmed cases”): https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9326326.html
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    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=68879743

    23 Americans aboard cruise ship in Japan contract coronavirus as UK declares 'imminent threat'
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    Princess Cruises, which operates the ship, announced Sunday that it is offering a full refund to all 2,666 guests on board. More than 400 passengers are from the United States, and at least 23 of them have been infected with the disease, according to a Princess Cruises spokesperson.
    ...
    In the United States, 12 confirmed coronavirus cases have been reported in Arizona, California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Washington and Wisconsin. The CDC has shipped newly approved coronavirus tests to labs across the country so states can begin their own diagnostic testing instead of shipping all samples to the agency's headquarters in Atlanta.
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    LONDON — The story of a traveling British businessman who appears to have passed the coronavirus to Britons in at least three countries has prompted concerns over “superspreaders,” who could play an outsize role in transmitting the infection.
    A British national, who has not been named, may have unwittingly spread the virus to at least 11 people in the course of his travels from Singapore to France to Switzerland to England, according to public health authorities and accounts in the British media. Infected Britons in England, France and Spain likely caught the virus from him.
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    Trump: Heat Will Kill Coronavirus

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ry/4716223002/

    Trump says Coronavirus will be gone by April when the weather gets warmer

    The president continued to suggest the Coronavirus outbreak, which has claimed 1,000 lives as of Monday, will be gone by April. He told the crowd that "in theory" once the weather warms up Coronavirus, which he referred to as "the virus," will "miraculously" go away. Trump did not offer any scientific explanation to back up his claim.

    "I think it's all gonna work out fine," he said. "Rough stuff, rough stuff."

    Trump echoed that claim during a speech to governors at the White House earlier on Monday, telling the group that China had given him the confidence that the outbreak would subside in April due to "the heat."

    “The heat generally speaking kills this kind of virus,” he said.

  8. #306
    Not a problem. Coronavirus under control.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...onavirus-china

    Trump to Trish Regan: China has coronavirus under control


    "I think China is very professionally run in the sense that they have everything under control," Trump told Regan during "Trish Regan Primetime." "I really believe they are going to have it under control fairly soon."

    Trump noted that warmer weather should help quell some of the germs, too, but in the meantime, the United States is sending World Health Organization experts to Wuhan, China, to observe and help as needed.

    "I can tell you ... we're working with them," Trump mentioned. "You know, we just sent some of our best people over there."
    But don't worry about the virus. It will be OK.

    "I think the virus is going to be fine," Trump asserted. "They're working very hard, and we are in communication with them."

    The viral outbreak that began in China has infected more than 40,600 people globally and killed more than 900 people.
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  9. #307
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51466362

    Coronavirus disease named Covid-19

    The World Health Organization says the official name for the disease caused by the new coronavirus is Covid-19.

    "We now have a name for the disease and it's Covid-19," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters in Geneva.

    It comes after the death toll from the virus passed 1,000. Tens of thousands of people have been infected.

    Dr Ghebreyesus called on the world to fight the new virus as aggressively as possible.

    The word coronavirus refers to the group of viruses it belongs to, rather than the latest strain.

    The virus itself has been designated SARS-CoV-2 by the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses.

    Researchers have been calling for an official name to avoid confusion and stigmatisation of any group or country.

    "We had to find a name that did not refer to a geographical location, an animal, an individual or group of people, and which is also pronounceable and related to the disease," the WHO chief said.

    "Having a name matters to prevent the use of other names that can be inaccurate or stigmatising. It also gives us a standard format to use for any future coronavirus outbreaks."

    The new name is taken from the words "corona", "virus" and "disease", with 2019 representing the year that it emerged (the outbreak was reported to the WHO on 31 December).

    There are now more than 42,200 confirmed cases across China. The number of deaths has overtaken that of the Sars epidemic in 2002-2003.

    On Monday, some 103 people died in Hubei province alone, a daily record, and the national death toll is now 1,016.

    But the number of new infections nationally was down almost 20% from the day before, from 3,062 to 2,478.

  10. #308
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Trump: Heat Will Kill Coronavirus

    Trump did not offer any scientific explanation to back up his claim.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ry/4716223002/
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  12. #310
    Medical researchers in China have found the incubation period for coronavirus ranges up to 24 days — 10 days longer than experts previously thought.
    The research was co-authored by Dr Zhong Nanshan, who discovered the SARS coronavirus in 2003 and has been appointed as a leading advisor in managing the current coronavirus crisis.

    Current advice from health organisations and ministries say the virus’ incubation period is as long as 14 days, based on the incubation period of previous MERS viruses.
    Public Health England and the Department of Health and Social Care has urged anyone travelling from specific countries, including China, to quarantine themselves at home for 14 days.

    The findings, which have not yet been peer reviewed, were published on Sunday and titled ‘Clinical characteristics of 2019 novel coronavirus infection in China’.

    More at: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9326591.html
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    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Incubation period of nCoV may be longer than you expect. A woman in North China's Shanxi Province was diagnosed with #coronavirus 42 days after returning from Wuhan. (Global Times) pic.twitter.com/nUo0jCDzOq
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    WTH!!!

    Now AF will have to put up with me for almost two months?
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

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  17. #314
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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  18. #315
    42 day incubation period . Danke has infected millions .
    Do something Danke

  19. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    42 day incubation period . Danke has infected millions .
    What does your medicine man say? I'll come and visit if he has a cure. Maybe I'll come anyway, with gifts.
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  20. #317
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What does your medicine man say? I'll come and visit if he has a cure. Maybe I'll come anyway, with gifts.
    I am considering using you as a bio weapon.
    Do something Danke

  21. #318
    Coronavirus death toll leaps in China's Hubei province

    By Winni Zhou and Dominique Patton,
    ReutersFebruary 12, 2020

    Something Went Wrong
    By Winni Zhou and Dominique PattonBEIJING (Reuters) - The Chinese province at the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak reported a record rise in the death toll on Thursday, as global health experts warned the epidemic could get far worse before it is brought under control.Coronavirus cases jumped by nearly 3,000 overnight: Is it a pandemic?
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    Health officials in Hubei province said 242 people had died from the flu-like virus on Wednesday, the fastest rise in the daily count since the pathogen was identified in December, and bringing the total number of deaths in the province to 1,310. The previous record rise in the toll was 103 on Feb. 10.

    The grim new tally came a day after China had reported its lowest number of new coronavirus cases in two weeks, bolstering a forecast by Beijing's senior medical adviser for the outbreak there to end by April.
    But the 2,015 new confirmed cases reported in mainland China on Wednesday was dwarfed by the 14,840 new cases reported in Hubei alone on Thursday, when provincial officials said they had adopted a new methodology for counting infections.

    It was not immediately clear how the new methodology affected the results, nor why the death toll rose so sharply.
    Asian stock markets wobbled and the safe-havens of the Japanese yen, gold and bonds rose after the Hubei numbers were reported. Results from Chinese trials testing a combination of antiviral drugs used to treat HIV against the new coronavirus are due in weeks, but experts say a vaccine could still be months away.

    WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned any apparent slowdown in the spread of the epidemic should be viewed with "extreme caution".

    "This outbreak could still go in any direction," he told a briefing in Geneva.
    Another expert said that while the coronavirus may be peaking in China, this was not the case elsewhere."It has spread to other places where it's the beginning of the outbreak," Dale Fisher, head of the Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network coordinated by the WHO, said in an interview in Singapore. "In Singapore, we are at the beginning.

    "
    Singapore has 50 cases, including one found at its biggest bank, DBS , on Wednesday that caused an evacuation at the head office.

    Hundreds of infections have been reported in more than two dozen other countries and territories, but only two people have died from the virus outside mainland China - one in Hong Kong and another in the Philippines.
    Tedros said a WHO-led advance team that traveled to China this week had made good progress on the composition and scope of its work.

    The head of the WHO's emergency program, Dr. Mike Ryan, said it was too early "to predict the beginning, the middle or end of the epidemic"
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  22. #319
    All those clueless hacks who warned us for years not to trust China's economic numbers, yet were so gullible to believe any coronavirus pandemic "data" released by Beijing are going to look pretty stupid right about now.
    Hubei just released its latest round of coronavirus outbreak figures, and in a clear confirmation of the 'conspiracy theory' that China had altered the way it was reporting Covid-19 deaths and cases - clearly in order to suggest that things were improving and you should go back to work, while ideally buying stocks, the province at the epicenter of the Coronavirus pandemic just came clean and the numbers are stunning.
    The number of cases exploded by 14,840, resulting in a total of 48,206 cases, including 13,332 clinically diagnose cases:


    And just like that we are back on the quadratic growth path in new cases, as one would expect from an exponentially spreading viral pandemic.

    This also means that JPM, which earlier today was delighted by how far the infected case load is from its "pessimistic" forecast...

    ... will have to dramatically change its narrative.

    So what happened?
    Recall that on Monday we published "This Is How China Is Rigging The Number Of Coronavirus Infections" (just two days after pointing out that "There Is Something Very Strange In The Latest Chinese Official Coronavirus Numbers") in which we explained that China on Feb 7 moved the goalposts by changing the definition of the term "infection" and that "going forward patients who tested positive for the virus but have no symptoms will no longer be regarded as confirmed."
    Well, it appears that a few days later, China changed its mind and has reverted to the original definition of "infection" while also including "clinical diagonisis" to determine if a new infection had take place. This is how Hubei explained the change:.
    With the deepening of understanding of new coronavirus pneumonia and the accumulation of experience in diagnosis and treatment, in view of the characteristics of the epidemic in Hubei Province, the General Office of the National Health and Health Commission and the Office of the State Administration of Traditional Chinese Medicine issued the "Diagnosis and Treatment Plan for New Coronavirus Infected Pneumonia (Trial (Version) "adds" clinical diagnosis "to the case diagnosis classification in Hubei Province, so that patients can receive standardized treatment according to confirmed cases as early as possible to further improve the success rate of treatment.
    According to the plan, Hubei Province has recently conducted investigations on suspected cases and revised the diagnosis results, and newly diagnosed patients were diagnosed according to the new diagnosis classification. In order to be consistent with the classification of case diagnosis issued by other provinces across the country, starting today, Hubei Province will include the number of clinically diagnosed cases into the number of confirmed cases for publication.
    Of course, the real reason for the original change as noted above was to give the impression that China was succeeding in containing the infection, which helped boost stocks - both in China and globally - sharply higher, and in the case of the S&P, to new all time highs.
    As for the catastrophic revision, it may also explain why on Tuesday morning, China's CCTV reported that Hubei province removed its two top health officials, namely health commission head Liu Yingzi and party chief Zhang Jin from their posts. Almost as if, in retrospect, they were caught hiding something...

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ch...ble-gold-soars
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  23. #320
    An ex-Fed governor said on CNBC earlier that he was recently told by a high rank CCP committee-member to add at least one zero (maybe two zeros) to whatever "official" numbers are released. That's a remarkable statement to come from a Fed insider on a mainstream news broadcast during lunch time. Such statements are usually relegated to conspiracy forums and ignored. Even if it's not true, the effect of such a statement can change the perception of the situation enough to manifest a crowd reaction.


    Also, a rumor floating around on the net that the CDC, DHS, FEMA along with other federal agencies is holding a mass casualty "drill" exercise on March 3 in Ravenna NE, where participants will actually be injected with a faux vaccine. Don't ask where my train of thought goes when they're giving "faux vaccines" to people as part of an exercise. Anybody that allows themselves to be stuck with an actual needle and injected with something as part of an exercise is gd moron.
    Last edited by devil21; 02-13-2020 at 02:54 PM.
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    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    An ex-Fed governor said on CNBC earlier that he was recently told by a high rank CCP committee-member to add at least one zero (maybe two zeros) to whatever "official" numbers are released. That's a remarkable statement to come from a Fed insider on a mainstream news broadcast during lunch time. Such statements are usually relegated to conspiracy forums and ignored. Even if it's not true, the effect of such a statement can change the perception of the situation enough to manifest a crowd reaction.


    Also, a rumor floating around on the net that the CDC, DHS, FEMA along with other federal agencies is holding a mass casualty "drill" exercise on March 3 in Ravenna NE, where participants will actually be injected with a faux vaccine. Don't ask where my train of thought goes when they're giving "faux vaccines" to people as part of an exercise. Anybody that allows themselves to be stuck with an actual needle and injected with something as part of an exercise is gd moron.
    Well, if it is an internet rumor, it must be true! (Ravenna only has a population of about 1,300 people).

  26. #322
    A professor at the University of South Carolina found that smokers have significantly higher levels of ACE2 than non-smokers ... but that no difference was found based on age, gender or racial group:

    In this study, we analyzed four large-scale datasets of normal lung tissue to investigate the disparities related to race, age, gender and smoking status in ACE2 gene expression. No significant disparities in ACE2 gene expression were found between racial groups (Asian vs Caucasian), age groups (>60 vs <60) or gender groups (male vs female). However, we observed significantly higher ACE2 gene expression in smoker samples compared to nonsmoker samples. This indicates the smokers may be more susceptible to 2019-nCov and thus smoking history should be considered in identifying susceptible population and standardizing treatment regimen.

    Could this could help to explain why Chinese men are more susceptible to Coronavirus than other people?

    Actually, it might...

    The Chinese smoke a lot. BBC reported in 2015:

    China is the world's biggest consumer of cigarettes - one in three cigarettes smoked globally is in China - as well as the world's biggest tobacco producer.

    More than 300 million people - about a quarter of the population - smoke, with the average smoker consuming 22 cigarettes a day.

    And it turns out that Chinese men smoke a lot more than Chinese women. For example, Gallup reported in 2005:

    Smoking in China is overwhelmingly a male habit. At least two-thirds of all Chinese men (68%) smoke at least occasionally, and roughly half (49%) are regular smokers. In contrast, only 6% of women smoke regularly (3%) or occasionally (3%).

    Wikipedia writes:

    China ... accounted for 51.4% of the world's male smokers in 2015.


    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-...en-chinese-men
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  27. #323
    Last edited by sparebulb; 02-14-2020 at 12:05 AM.

  28. #324
    What is it?
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  29. #325
    ^^^^^^^^^
    If France is ravaged by coronavirus also then there's the proof lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan
    Well, if it is an internet rumor, it must be true! (Ravenna only has a population of about 1,300 people).
    Settle down Zip. Rumors are rumors, may be true, may be not. I don't think it's far-fetched that the CDC and others would run an exercise on the virus coming here. Nor do I think it's far-fetched to think that anyone that allows those people to inject anything into them as part of an exercise is a moron. There's plenty of documented examples of the feds using the population as guinea pigs without their knowledge.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  30. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    What is it?
    I couldn't get the video clip to load, so here is the gif.

  31. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    LOL
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  32. #328
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I am considering using you as a bio weapon.
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  34. #329
    Will @oyarde hold these dances when I come to his reservation?

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  35. #330
    'murikan bio- distribution center dance and chant.


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