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    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.



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    WARNING: Propaganda thread. Humans proceed at their own risk.

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    For the few RP republicans left on these forums, it is not propaganda. For facist state republicans? Yes probably.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

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    They promoted the hell out of it on breitbart when they realized their muslim ban was not going the way they planned.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    After Trump won, I was like ok let see how he governs. Everyone knows he emits content out of his mouth like used vegetable matter from the south end of hippo but let's see what he actually does as president. Supreme court pick. Ok. The wall; 30 billion make work project that will be laughing stock for years to come. Travel ban; written in such a way as to make it a violation of the first amendment. Continues to show a complete lack of understanding of the constitution.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    After Trump won, I was like ok let see how he governs. Everyone knows he emits content out of his mouth like used vegetable matter from the south end of hippo but let's see what he actually does as president. Supreme court pick. Ok. The wall; 30 billion make work project that will be laughing stock for years to come. Travel ban; written in such a way as to make it a violation of the first amendment. Continues to show a complete lack of understanding of the constitution.
    Pretty much my POV.
    There is no spoon.

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    It depends on why people point to Obama's actions. If someone is pointing to Obama having done it as a reason to do it now, then yes it is an irrational argument and Carey is correct.

    However many of us point to Obama's actions not as an argument for doing the same thing now, but rather to point out the hypocrisy of all those who either supported or turned a blind eye to the same actions when Obama did them.

    Here is the video:

    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    It depends on why people point to Obama's actions. If someone is pointing to Obama having done it as a reason to do it now, then yes it is an irrational argument and Carey is correct.

    However many of us point to Obama's actions not as an argument for doing the same thing now, but rather to point out the hypocrisy of all those who either supported or turned a blind eye to the same actions when Obama did them.

    Here is the video:

    Hypocrisy on all sides is so great right now, to even point it out is a joke. Every instant of pointing out hypocrisy resonates because it is true on both side. It has deteriorated to "Did not! Did too! did not! did To! did not! did to!" The only thing left is to laugh at both sides for trying to use hypocrisy to win an argument.
    War; everything in the world wrong, evil and immoral combined into one and multiplied by millions.



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    But you don't dare say that Bush set it all in place & Obama followed in his stead.
    Last edited by Ender; 02-05-2017 at 01:08 PM.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    But you don't dare say that Bush set it all in place & Obama followed in his stead.
    Trump will basically just be 5th term George W Bush.
    I am the spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    But you don't dare say that Bush set it all in place & Obama followed in his stead.
    Yes, of course, Obama embraced the Bush doctrine, injected it with steroids, and stepped on the gas. It has been 16 years of OBushma. To break the cycle is to call out the hypocrisy of those who cyclically embrace and then despise the very same policies depending on what color jersey the guy in office is wearing.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Hypocrisy on all sides is so great right now, to even point it out is a joke. Every instant of pointing out hypocrisy resonates because it is true on both side. It has deteriorated to "Did not! Did too! did not! did To! did not! did to!" The only thing left is to laugh at both sides for trying to use hypocrisy to win an argument.
    Caught in the false left-right dichotomy, red team versus blue team, as if there can be no other option.
    And yet, suppressing the continuous hypocrisy does nothing to break that endless left-right cycle. While it may cause cognitive dissonance for many, to break the cycle is to call out the hypocrisy of those who cyclically embrace and then despise the very same policies depending on what color jersey the guy in office is wearing.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
    "War is the health of the State." - Randolph Bourne "Freedom is the answer. ... Now, what's the question?" - Ernie Hancock.

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    A good one.. and shared (as rare as that is)
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Trump will basically just be 5th term George W Bush.
    could be a Nixon.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by klamath View Post
    Hypocrisy on all sides is so great right now, to even point it out is a joke. Every instant of pointing out hypocrisy resonates because it is true on both side. It has deteriorated to "Did not! Did too! did not! did To! did not! did to!" The only thing left is to laugh at both sides for trying to use hypocrisy to win an argument.
    The left never had real principals. The right stands on them when they are not wielding power, once they picked up the power wand principals be damned.
    USE THIS SITE TO LINK ARTICLES FROM OLIGARCH MEDIA:http://archive.is/ STARVE THE BEAST.
    More Government = Less Freedom
    Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
    Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    could be a Nixon.
    Why do so many people say that?
    I am the spoon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Why do so many people say that?
    Some people use their names interchangeably for the word racist or cheat. There's the so called Nixon tapes, and the so called Trump tapes. Some people think Trump even has a pee pee tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    could be a Nixon.
    President Richard Nixon called Miami Dolphins head coach Don Shula before the Super Bowl and recommended he run a certain play. The week prior, he reportedly did the same thing with the Washington Redskins. Both teams ran the plays he suggested; both plays failed. Both teams lost. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--pr...225925413.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F Kennedy III View Post
    Why do so many people say that?
    Old folks that remember?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    No, Bush did

    US will attack 7 countries in 5 years including Syria. Wesley Clark 10/3/2007:

    Last edited by robert68; 02-06-2017 at 03:30 AM.

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    They hate us for our freedoms

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    AI controlled dump #20003. Codename yarn. No relationship to the current thread. No connection to anything. The masses watch. Some realize there is no there there.



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