They just showed their pictures on Fox. The whole lot combined IQ probably 60
They even had posted videos showing how they hated Trump as well, so why are MSM still accusing the group as a right wing group?Originally Posted by olehounddog
Reports are saying informants. Plural.
FTFY.Militia Member: “Someone should kidnap that crazy bitch!”
FBI Informant: “I’ve got a truck full of M4s, Night Vision, Body Armor, Duck Tape, a Map to her Summer House, and $5000 in cash in case we need anything else. We doing this or what boys?!? ‘Merica!!”
FBI Informant 2: "I'm in! Come on you bunch of candy-ass pussies! Gonna wait till Gretchen marches us to a FEMA camp?!"
FBI Informant 3: "He makes a good point. Does anyone know how to make a bomb or fully automatic weapon? We could raise some money by selling meth."
FBI Informant 4: "I have a connection who can get meth wholesale."
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You forgot FBI Informant 5, female: "I feel like all we ever do is talk. You're going to help us out right? A real man wouldn't turn down this kind of opportunity.. It's time to take some action!"
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- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
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This belongs here: The FBI had a confidential informant who built the bomb for the 1993 WTC bombing that killed 6 people.
The Corbett Report:
Alex Jones interviews Emad Salem:
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
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My predictions don't always come to pass, but it is sadly ironic...Reports are saying informants. Plural.
FTFY.Militia Member: “Someone should kidnap that crazy bitch!”
FBI Informant: “I’ve got a truck full of M4s, Night Vision, Body Armor, Duck Tape, a Map to her Summer House, and $5000 in cash in case we need anything else. We doing this or what boys?!? ‘Merica!!”
FBI Informant 2: "I'm in! Come on you bunch of candy-ass pussies! Gonna wait till Gretchen marches us to a FEMA camp?!"
FBI Informant 3: "He makes a good point. Does anyone know how to make a bomb or fully automatic weapon? We could raise some money by selling meth."
FBI Informant 4: "I have a connection who can get meth wholesale."
White supremacist gang members charged in federal drugs and weapons case
Eleven of 15 suspects are accused of distributing 50 grams or more of methamphetamine.
Federal authorities in Utah announced a crackdown Friday on 21 white supremacist gang members and associates in the Salt Lake City area who allegedly distributed drugs or illegally possessed guns.
...
The U.S. Department of Justice's Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force launched an investigation last year, concluding members of the gangs trafficked methamphetamine and firearms, according to the statement.
Investigators said they purchased 1.65 pounds of meth and recovered 15 guns during the operation.
...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-case-n1243799
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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HL-71: Were Gov. Whitmer's Accused Kidnappers ENTRAPPED? Viva & Barnes HIGHLIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB5i3Ll9bg
The Bastiat Collection ˇ FREE PDF ˇ FREE EPUB ˇ PAPER
- "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
-- The Law (p. 54)- "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
-- Government (p. 99)- "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
-- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)- "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
-- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)ˇ tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito ˇ
Judge has started dismissing the charges. Ring leader was FBI informant, as we all suspected.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...fbi-informant/
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"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-involved-plot
12 members of the "militia" were FBI informants and agents.
That gold-fringed flag they always have behind them is a war flag. Guess who their enemy is and always has been?
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"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
2 guilty of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer
The jury also found Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr. guilty of conspiring to obtain a weapon of mass destruction
https://abc7ny.com/michigan-governor...-plot/12157621
Joey Cappelletti & Ed White (23 August 2022)
GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. -- A jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, delivering a swift verdict in a plot that was broken up by the FBI and described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists.
The result was a big victory for the U.S. Justice Department. A different jury just four months ago couldn't reach a verdict on Adam Fox and Barry Croft Jr. but acquitted two other men, a stunning conclusion that led to a second trial.
Fox and Croft were convicted of two counts of conspiracy related to the kidnapping scheme and attempts to obtain a weapon of mass destruction. Prosecutors said they wanted to blow up a bridge to disrupt police if the abduction could be pulled off at Whitmer's vacation home.
Croft, 46, a trucker from Bear, Delaware, was also convicted of another explosives charge. The jury deliberated for roughly eight hours over two days.
"Today's verdicts prove that violence and threats have no place in our politics and those who seek to divide us will be held accountable. They will not succeed," said Whitmer, a Democrat, who turned 51 years old on Tuesday.
"But we must also take a hard look at the status of our politics," she added. "Plots against public officials and threats to the FBI are a disturbing extension of radicalized domestic terrorism that festers in our nation, threatening the very foundation of our republic."
Fox attorney Christopher Gibbons, who had railed against the FBI's investigative tactics, said the verdict was disappointing.
"We were hoping for a different outcome," he told reporters.
During closing arguments Monday, a prosecutor had a blunt message: No one can strap on an AR-15 rifle and body armor and snatch a governor.
"But that wasn't the defendants' ultimate goal," Assistant U.S. Attorney Nils Kessler said. "They wanted to set off a second American civil war, a second American Revolution, something that they call the boogaloo. And they wanted to do it for a long time before they settled on Gov. Whitmer."
The investigation began when Army veteran Dan Chappel joined a Michigan paramilitary group and became alarmed when he heard talk about killing police. He agreed to become an FBI informant and spent the summer of 2020 getting close to Fox and others, secretly recording conversations and participating in drills at "shoot houses" in Wisconsin and Michigan.
The FBI turned it into a major domestic terrorism case with two more informants and two undercover agents embedded in the group. Evidence showed the group had many gripes, particularly over COVID-19 restrictions imposed by Whitmer early in the pandemic.
Fox, Croft and others, accompanied by the government operatives, traveled to northern Michigan to see Whitmer's vacation home at night and a bridge that could be destroyed. Ty Garbin and Kaleb Franks, too, were on that ride. They pleaded guilty and testified for the prosecution.
Whitmer was not physically harmed; six men were arrested hours away from her home in October 2020.
Defense attorneys tried to put the FBI on trial, repeatedly emphasizing through cross-examination of witnesses and during closing remarks that federal players were present at every crucial event and had entrapped the men.
Fox and Croft, they said, were "big talkers" who liked to smoke marijuana and were guilty of nothing but exercising their right to say vile things about Whitmer and government.
"This isn't Russia. This isn't how our country works," Croft attorney Joshua Blanchard told jurors. "You don't get to suspect that someone might commit a crime because you don't like things that they say, that you don't like their ideologies."
Gibbons said the FBI isn't supposed to create "domestic terrorists." He described Fox as poor and living in the basement of a Grand Rapids-area vacuum shop, which was a site for meetings with Chappel and an agent.
Whitmer has blamed then-President Donald Trump for stoking mistrust and fomenting anger over coronavirus restrictions and refusing to condemn hate groups and right-wing extremists like those charged in the plot.
Trump recently called the kidnapping plan a "fake deal."
Is conspiring to overthrow a US president with false accusations a punishable act?
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