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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Yes, I do. Especially since Bernie and his "Bros" are in the process of becoming personae non grata on the left ...
    I don't believe it and a part of me doesn't even think you believe it. But that is actually beside the point. AF post was right and did not need fxing, the reason why they came after him was because of politics not race or gender.

    You can factor out just about everything in that scenario but the stupid MAGA hat and that crowd would treat him the same way. There are some extreme exception but we all know exceptions don't make the rule



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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I have a soft spot for the Natives as well. But they were savage if not ruthless as the whites that wiped them out. The Comanche especially come to mind. who gang-raped women when the opportunity presented itself.
    I agree, Indians, Mexicans, love em, great people.

  4. #63
    Does anyone else remember being in high school, if the teacher looked
    left instead of right when he walked in the door we thought it was
    hysterical, you can't keep a straight face in high school unless
    you're caught smoking.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I don't believe it and a part of me doesn't even think you believe it.
    Believe as you will. Please return the courtesy by not presuming to tell me what I believe.

    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    But that is actually beside the point. AF post was right and did not need fxing, the reason why they came after him was because of politics not race or gender.

    You can factor out just about everything in that scenario but the stupid MAGA hat and that crowd would treat him the same way. There are some extreme exception but we all know exceptions don't make the rule
    Lighten up, Che. You are way over-analyzing a throwaway bit of snark.

    But since you went there ...

    Your assertion that "You can factor out just about everything in that scenario but the stupid MAGA hat and that crowd would treat him the same way" is some kind of evidence that this incident was not about race or gender constitutes a fallacy of denying the antecedent. Even if it is the case that the MAGA hat alone could have been sufficient to have caused the reaction, it does not follow that only the MAGA hat could have caused it (i.e., that it could only be "because of politics not race or gender").
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 01-20-2019 at 04:05 PM.



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  7. #65
    Zippy, you are about to embarrass yourself right into oblivion.
    #NashvilleStrong

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  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    I don't believe it and a part of me doesn't even think you believe it. But that is actually beside the point. AF post was right and did not need fxing, the reason why they came after him was because of politics not race or gender.

    You can factor out just about everything in that scenario but the stupid MAGA hat and that crowd would treat him the same way. There are some extreme exception but we all know exceptions don't make the rule
    What have you got against MAGA?

  9. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by euphemia View Post
    Zippy, you are about to embarrass yourself right into oblivion.
    Zippy has no shame, that's why he should be banned, he won't go away or stop posting lies.
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  10. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Zippy has no shame, that's why he should be banned, he won't go away or stop posting lies.
    Irony, thy name is Swordsmyth.

  11. #69
    I guess the msm has convinced you all that there was nothing going on this weekend other than a couple of women’s marches and the indigenous peopls’ event.

    Nobody bothered (hear me Zippy) to do their homework. There were pro-life marches all around the country that were ignored, or grossly underreported by msm. It happens every year.

    At least bother to check out a story before launching into tirades and false accusations. Those kids were mighty courageous to travel for hours and stand out there in the bitter cold and then be heckled by a ridiculous old man, and they are derided on the internet for behaving with more courtesy than most kids have.

    I’m poking my finger in your chest Zippy. Cut it out. You are a pathetic, small minded man.
    #NashvilleStrong

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  12. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Irony, thy name is Swordsmyth.
    Team troll members stick together through thick and thin.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    There is something about Trump and his supporters that make certain people's blood boil.
    That's what makes them horrible people. The intolerant left. The proof is right there in the picture posted earlier in the thread: the left will happily put bullets in the head of anybody who dares openly dissent with their progressive agenda.

  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Team troll members stick together through thick and thin.
    You're clearly here to portray the liberty movement as pro-Trump, and hopefully convert true libertarians to your cause. You're the troll, and I'm perfectly happy pointing it out whenever I get the chance.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    You're clearly here to portray the liberty movement as pro-Trump, and hopefully convert true libertarians to your cause. You're the troll, and I'm perfectly happy pointing it out whenever I get the chance.
    You are here to convince everyone that libertarians are leftist anarchists and drive as many people away as possible, you are the troll.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  17. #74
    Okay. I get it that Snopes can't be trusted, but this seems fairly balanced: https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/01/20...sions-at-mall/

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinnuhana View Post
    Okay. I get it that Snopes can't be trusted, but this seems fairly balanced: https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/01/20...sions-at-mall/
    If you believe Phillips.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinnuhana View Post
    Okay. I get it that Snopes can't be trusted, but this seems fairly balanced: https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/01/20...sions-at-mall/
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    If you believe Phillips.
    They didn't bother to give the MAGA kids a chance to tell their side.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Team troll members stick together through thick and thin.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You are here to convince everyone that libertarians are leftist anarchists and drive as many people away as possible, you are the troll.
    I'm here to support a Ron Paul political agenda and for good, legitimate debate and discussion, and that fact is in evidence by what I post. Just as your agenda is clear by what you post.

  21. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    I'm here to support a Ron Paul political agenda and for good, legitimate debate and discussion, and that fact is in evidence by what I post. Just as your agenda is clear by what you post.
    LOL
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  22. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL
    Compelling.

  23. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Compelling.
    Just like your post.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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  25. #81
    I don’t believe the Snopes report. Dude is backpeddling. The Covington students were being harassed everywhere. Some kind of black Hebrew group was there, and was reported as having spit on one of the students. That’s assault. Phillips was way out of line. If he wanted to diffused the situation he could have stayed out of it. But that would have been the adult thing to do.

    I’m not sure where the group’s chaperones were. That’s a bit of a concern.

    People jumped on the social media account of this story so fast school admin was ready to expel the students. Not so fair to teens who raised their own money to come to the rally.

    Social media and msm are not reliable sources for news.
    Last edited by euphemia; 01-20-2019 at 05:04 PM.
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  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Just like your post.
    Your posting history says it all.

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    Your posting history says it all.
    Yes it does, and so does yours.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Yes it does, and so does yours.
    👍

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  29. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The vast majority of the Native population died from diseases that spread across the entire continent.. when westward expansion began, they had largely already been wiped out. No evidence they came from blankets, either.
    My hometown was founded By Fr. Marquette before the US existed and long before any western expansion..

    Seems that some people were able to interact peacefully with the indigenous people. and some people were not.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    My hometown was founded By Fr. Marquette before the US existed and long before any western expansion..

    Seems that some people were able to interact peacefully with the indigenous people. and some people were not.
    The same goes for the natives, some of them were peaceful and others were rabid.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  32. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The same goes for the natives, some of them were peaceful and others were rabid.
    Rabid to English but not to French..
    Respond better to trade than Demands.

    I would guess that they were just highly anti-authoritarian.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  34. #89
    Nathan Phillips, the Native American man at the center of the controversy involving Covington Catholic High School students who were unfairly smeared by the media, is raising money with the help of a major big-money left-wing operation, and has a history of appearing in the press claiming to be a victim of anti-Native racism.
    “[Phillips] is a Vietnam Veteran and former director of the Native Youth Alliance,” according to Heavy.
    The Native Youth Alliance appears to be a standalone entity. However, the larger well-funded Native Youth Leadership Alliance — which told us that it is not associated with Phillips — is currently promoting Phillips’ fundraising campaign stemming from the incident with the Catholic teens.
    The Native Youth Leadership Alliance (NYLA) is a non-profit organization that is funded by the same far-left power players who are often involved in bankrolling leftist causes. The organization’s funding partners include the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Social Justice Fund Northwest.


    The homepage for the NYLA is promoting Phillips’ fundraising campaign.


    The point is this: Phillips is not simply a random Native man who was accosted by “racist” MAGA-hat wearing teens, as the mainstream press has reported. He is connected to leftist activists who donate large sums to leftist causes. And now, he is personally fundraising off the mainstream press’ misdeeds.
    Given that the full, unedited video of the interaction between Phillips and the students shows that Phillips clearly approached the students, and given that he is connected to left-wing social justice causes, one could conclude that he targeted the teenagers for their support of President Donald J. Trump. Yet the mainstream press narrative is exactly the opposite – that the boys targeted Phillips.
    Additionally, this is not the first time that Phillips has been at the center of controversy involving alleged racism against the Native Population. In 2015, Phillips claimed that he was “bombarded by racial slurs” by students at Eastern Michigan University.
    Fox2 reported:
    An Ypsilanti man says he was trying to teach a few students dressed in American Indian theme party about respecting Native Americans.
    Not long afterward, Nathan Phillips said that an interaction with party-goers and students turned ugly.
    Nathan Phillips says he was out for a noon walk on a Saturday in mid-April
    He walked by a home where he saw Eastern Michigan University students dressed as Native Americans.
    “They had little feathers on, I was just going to walk by,” Phillips said. “A group of them said ‘Come on over, come here.'”
    He says he walked over to the fence and saw roughly 30 to 40 students involved in a theme party.
    “They had their face painted,” Phillips said. “I said what the heck is going on here. ‘Oh we are honoring you.’ I said no you are not honoring me.”
    It was a statement he says they took offense to.
    “Then started whooping and hollering,” he said. “I said that wasn’t honoring, that was racist. Then at that time, it really got ugly.”
    Phillips says he was bombarded with racial slurs.
    “(They said) ‘Go back to the reservation, you blank indian,'” he said.
    One student, he says, threw a beer can at him.
    “If I would have stayed where I was at, it would have hit me in the head,” he said. “I backed up and it hit me in the chest.”

    Phillips has proven himself to be something of a leftist activist, and the mainstream press, which still has egg on its face from the embarrassing Thursday display accusing Trump of directing his personal lawyer to lie to the Senate, ought to be treading more lightly.
    Instead, the press has decided to vilify teenaged boys, who did nothing wrong, in yet another despicable display.

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclus...wing-activism/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  35. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Rabid to English but not to French..
    Respond better to trade than Demands.

    I would guess that they were just highly anti-authoritarian.
    Some of them were just rabid, they weren't all the same nor were they somehow more virtuous than Europeans, they did horrible things to eachother long before the white man came.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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