David Icke: Trump is an actor and a puppet

[Ender]

Ender believes in some grand conspiracy theory where the media lied about Trump, treated him unfairly, all of the neocons and elite were in on it, too. They all had a huge meeting and said, "hey, we actually like Trump, he's one of us, but we are going to pretend to hate him. And not just a little, we are going to treat him like complete $#@!".

Now, they could have treated him fairly and still given him a lot of attention, but they didn't.

Why?

Because they wanted to trick the conspiracy theorists on RonPaulForums who don't like the media, because it is really important that Trump had our vote.. even though, you nor I, actually voted for Trump...

Leeesseee...... we all know the media lied about Ron Paul, treated him unfairly, and acted like he wasn't even in the running, forgot his name and never included him, even when he was # 1 or 2 with the most votes.

But naaahhh- that could never have happened to Trump! The media and elites would never come together over one candidate & push their preference forward. Why, the righties would never have flocked to Trump if they thought the MSM/elites/TPTB were behind him.

Maybe learn a little bit about how PR really works- then this kinda crap would be very obvious from the start.

[dannno]

Leeesseee...... we all know the media lied about Ron Paul, treated him unfairly, and acted like he wasn't even in the running, forgot his name and never included him, even when he was # 1 or 2 with the most votes.

But naaahhh- that could never have happened to Trump! The media and elites would never come together over one candidate & push their preference forward. Why, the righties would never have flocked to Trump if they thought the MSM/elites/TPTB were behind him.

Maybe learn a little bit about how PR really works- then this kinda crap would be very obvious from the start.

I know how it works a lot better than you do. Ron Paul had about 10% support or less. The polls had him at 0-2%, but I believe he peaked at somewhere closer to 10%.

Trump had way more support off the bat. The media can't ignore somebody who legitimately has 20%+ of the vote already.

[Swordsmyth]

Oh, I thought David Icke was going to say that Trump is a reptilian.

He is, but of course that would be immediately discarded as crazy talk, ironically by the same people that think it's perfectly rational for someone to have actually and literally died and then came back to life three days later.

[Anti Globalist]

I know how it works a lot better than you do. Ron Paul had about 10% support or less. The polls had him at 0-2%, but I believe he peaked at somewhere closer to 10%.

Trump had way more support off the bat. The media can't ignore somebody who legitimately has 20%+ of the vote already.

Not to mention that Trump was the most famous person running for president in 2016 outside of Hillary Clinton. You can't exactly censor someone whose been a household name since the 80s.

[Stratovarious]

PNAC!
with some NAU sprinkled in...

PNAC!
with some NAU and AIPAC
sprinkled in...

[jkr]

PNAC!
with some NAU and AIPAC
sprinkled in...

the PLATE is
a
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p
a
c
!

[Stratovarious]

Granted some of his mideast policies, MIC big debt spending and appointments/picks like Bolton, Pompeo, Iraqi freedom war Elliot Abram, Jeffrey Epstein sweet deal Alex Acosta, Kushner, respected neoconservative freedom medal Sheldon Adelson can be hard to defend at times, I'm still not convinced that MAGA is a hardcore PSON.

Also, even his critics would admit that he had brilliant performances as Reality TV star and WWE fake-wrestling piblicity stunts but he used those talents to convince America to take a route that puts America First.



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But Trump puts Israel First, sells the America First dream but
has the spelling wrong.

[enhanced_deficit]

But Trump puts Israel First, sells the America First dream but
has the spelling wrong.

Could it be he's doing things in foreign policy against his will due to external pressures.

[Stratovarious]

Could it be he's doing things in foreign policy against his will due to external pressures.

ha ha........ could be,

Similarly, every time I see a photo of Trump with the Clintons I can't help
but think he assured Hillary that there would never be a 'real' Hillary
investigation (Foundation, Espionage, Russian Uranium deal...), and
certainly NEVER any indictments nor prosecution.

[devil21]

So you are equating the belief in Christ’s resurrection, which hundreds if not thousands witnessed immediately in the days after His crucifixion, which billions have believed and which millions have died confessing, including His disciples who were tortured for proclaiming Christ is Risen is the same as David Icke’s belief in Reptilians living underground and Trump is one of them. Who exactly is the delusional one here?

Millions witnessed the "resurrection", not hundreds or thousands.

The "crucifixion" and "resurrection" is allegory for the sun "dying" at its lowest point on the horizon in spring, where it stays for three days, before returning to it's summer jaunt back across the sky. It's all pagan celestial worship stories.

Indeed, the Sun has Risen!

I don't buy into everything Icke claims about shape-shifting and whatnot but I do know that "reptilian" is definitely a thing. What you choose to think that term means is your own decision.
(if you want to see what a prototypical reptilian looks like, go look up NYSE President, Stacey Cunningham)

[Swordsmyth]

Millions witnessed the "resurrection", not hundreds or thousands.

The "crucifixion" and "resurrection" is allegory for the sun "dying" at its lowest point on the horizon in spring, where it stays for three days, before returning to it's summer jaunt back across the sky. It's all pagan celestial worship stories.

Indeed, the Sun has Risen!

I don't buy into everything Icke claims about shape-shifting and whatnot but I do know that "reptilian" is definitely a thing. What you choose to think that term means is your own decision.

2 Thessalonians
Chapter 2

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[Firestarter]

Had chance to watch vid in entirety now, the claim being made @ 1:50 mark is quite stunning.. this should be validated by MSM. If confirmed, thiscould cause major problems for war lobbies, neocons globalist agenda.

I´m afraid that I sometimes misunderstand sarcasm...

Wesley Clark said and wrote, originally published in 2003 in his book “Winning modern wars: Iraq, terrorism, and the American empire” (page 130); there are also videos:

It's a, it's a five-year plan. We're going to take down seven countries in five years. We're going to start with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, then Libya, Somalia, Sudan, we're going to come back and get Iran in five years.

So he “predicted” the invasion of Iraq (was that completely impossible to expect?); the 6 other countries weren’t invaded in 5 years. Clark was 100% lying!

Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War when he was Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) of NATO from 1997 to 2000 (appointed by President Clinton). He was the commanding officer of the genocide in Yugoslavia (by throwing bombs) from 24 March – 10 June 1999.
He defended these war crimes with BS like:

But in war, accidents happen (…) And I think the United States military was as humane and careful as it possibly could have been in the Kosovo campaign. But still, civilians died. And I’ll always regret that.

If Wesley Clark would become a “real” whistleblower, he would blow the whistle on atrocities like dropping bombs on hospitals in Serbia (and would die very soon).
Or he could shed a light on the mass murder of the cult of David Koresh in Waco, Texas (75 people including children).

For more on Wesley Clark’s role in the Yugoslavian genocide: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6471483

[Firestarter]

But naaahhh- that could never have happened to Trump! The media and elites would never come together over one candidate & push their preference forward. Why, the righties would never have flocked to Trump if they thought the MSM/elites/TPTB were behind him.

Maybe learn a little bit about how PR really works- then this kinda crap would be very obvious from the start.

CNN is the Trump-supporting network that all the Trump fans love to hate!

Have you heard that Donald Trump lobbied the Turner Broadcasting System’s chief executive Phil Kent to make Jeff Zucker president of CNN Worldwide (he got the job in 2012)?

Zucker had earlier transformed Donald Trump into a big “media star” by the reality-TV show “The Apprentice”.
Zucker later introduced Trump to advertisers as the man who saved NBC.

In July 2015, Jeffrey Lord (at the suggestion of Trump) made his CNN debut. Today, Lord is one of 12 Trump-supporters on CNN’s payroll.
On the window sill of Zucker’s office, is a Sean Corcoran cartoon of him shaking hands with Trump (that Zucker thinks very funny), shortly after CNN hired former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.


Zucker said:

I like Donald. I guess I shouldn’t call him that. I like President Trump. He’s affable. He’s funny.

https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/vie...1038&start=130

[Working Poor]

Of course Trump is a puppet. He has to be to be the President. There is no way he isn't a puppet. If he weren't a puppet he would be dead. I've said this a few times:

"At least he is not Hillary"

Trump has a great sense of humor, timing and is a true performer. He is like the ring leader of the circus . I think he is as good as we can get. Hell I don't trust politicians at all.

I think if Ron Paul had won the election for President that he would have been killed. I still believe Ron was under threat while running. I think Ron showed the deep state that people really are on to them and that they are a force to contend with.

It is interesting times we live in. I have no idea what is going to happen. I will do the best I can to take care of myself and my responsibilities and mind my own business.

[devil21]

2 Thessalonians
Chapter 2

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Riiiight.

[Anti Globalist]

Of course Trump is a puppet. He has to be to be the President. There is no way he isn't a puppet. If he weren't a puppet he would be dead. I've said this a few times:

"At least he is not Hillary"

Trump has a great sense of humor, timing and is a true performer. He is like the ring leader of the circus . I think he is as good as we can get. Hell I don't trust politicians at all.

I think if Ron Paul had won the election for President that he would have been killed. I still believe Ron was under threat while running. I think Ron showed the deep state that people really are on to them and that they are a force to contend with.

It is interesting times we live in. I have no idea what is going to happen. I will do the best I can to take care of myself and my responsibilities and mind my own business.

Ron was definitely under threat but I doubt he even wanted to become president to begin with. His presidential campaigns were to simply educate the people on our corrupt our system is. He knew the whole time if he ever became president he wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.

[Swordsmyth]

Ron was definitely under threat but I doubt he even wanted to become president to begin with. His presidential campaigns were to simply educate the people on our corrupt our system is. He knew the whole time if he ever became president he wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.

Rome wasn't built or burnt in a day.

Trump is the President we need right now.

[enhanced_deficit]

Mr Icke should tone down the divisive langauge being used in his memes. After Epstein scandal and alleged Mossad connection speculations, other conspiracy theories without any proof had suggested that he was being blackmailed. But later it was reported that MAGA never met Epstein after they broke off relations way back.

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theguardian
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Wesley Clark said and wrote, originally published in 2003 in his book “Winning modern wars: Iraq, terrorism, and the American empire” (page 130); there are also videos:

So he “predicted” the invasion of Iraq (was that completely impossible to expect?); the 6 other countries weren’t invaded in 5 years. Clark was 100% lying!

....

EM.

That is true but following Iraqi Freedom war, military interventions in Libya, Srya and recent military buildup round Iran were accidental and not planned by neoconservative upper leadership?




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[Firestarter]

That is true but following Iraqi Freedom war, military interventions in Libya, Srya and recent military buildup round Iran were accidental and not planned by neoconservative upper leadership?

Are you really saying that neocons plan military interventions to get rid of unfriendly regimes?!?
Not according to the reputable CNN, BBC and Wikipedia!

As Iran is (still) under the rule of the Ayatollahs that were made in London and Washington, and doesn't expose that the Ayatollah Khomeini coup was orchestrated by Anglo-American intelligence, there is no "real" attempt to get rid of Khameini and the whole "war against Iran" is a charade: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6785575

Trump: If Sheldon Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
TRUMP: I like Sheldon a lot, he’s been a person I’ve known over the years. We have a very good relationship and you know I’m self-funding, I don’t want anybody’s money. If Sheldon gives to him, he’ll have total control over Rubio and that’s the problem with the way the system works – whoever gives.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._over_him.html

Mondoweiss crosses the line, calls MAGA 'Adelson’s perfect little puppet'

We can all be glad that David Icke does not mention the “philantropic” Trump Foundation.

In 2016, the Trump campaign claimed to have made $102 million in charitable donations over the past 5 years.
The list included contributions like free rounds of golf at Trump's courses offered at charity auctions and land-conservation agreements or money originating from the Trump Foundation.
The Foundation's second-biggest listed donation went to the charity of a man who had settled a lawsuit with one of Trump's golf courses after being denied a hole-in-one prize.

The Post's Fahrenthold claims to have found only one gift, of less than $10,000, between 2008 and May 2016 – in total - coming from Trump (instead of $102 million).
In May 2016, after making a pledge, Trump donated $1 million to a veterans' charity and also in 2016 donated $100,000 to a charity for relief efforts after the floods in Louisiana.

In 2013, the Trump Foundation made an illegal $25,000 political contribution to the "And Justice for All" campaign for Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.
When this illegal contribution was published in the media in 2016, Trump moved $25,000 from his personal account to his foundation and paid a $2,500 IRS fine.

Trump has repeatedly claimed making a donation to a charity, when in reality he merely redirects money that comes from outside donors.
So he’s taking credit for simply passing charitable donations along.

The Trump Foundation has bought stuff at charity auctions. This includes $20,000 for a painting of Trump in 2007 and $12,000 for a football helmet signed by NFL quarterback Tim Tebow in 2012.
The whereabouts of those 2 items are unknown. I don´t think that you can call it “charity” if Trump has used his foundation to buy things he wants for himself...

In 2009 the Trump foundation donated $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

In 2014, the Trump Foundation donated to several dozen “charitable” groups, including the drug-trafficking censorship crooks of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL): https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37369515

[enhanced_deficit]

Yes I did imply that. Because neocons' 'regime changes for spreading our freedoms' claim has been greatly discredited.

Interesting point about Iran. Come to think of it, Iran's leader in 2003 time frame had sent a thank you letter to Bush for invading Iraq and regime change there ( Saddam was replaced with Iranian exported leadership). During years of Iraqi freedom war, Iran had been quasi US ally in Iraq.

[jmdrake]

Alex Jones is ridiculous, now, please watch my video by the conspiracy theorist that literally says the world is run by lizard people. PLeeease?

LoL

Somebody posted this video around here somewhere, I think it applies to you.

https://youtu.be/oFL5NoM9GVE

Alex Jones is the one who had to recant his own reporting dumbass. While I don't agree with David Icke's views on alien overlords, I can't prove my belief that Jesus rose from the dead but most Americans agree with that. As for Trump being a puppet, have you listened to him today talking about how he's going to do more on gun control?

[jmdrake]

Rome wasn't built or burnt in a day.

Trump is the President we need right now.

Because what we need right now is a president willing to push for gun control. /sarcasm

[jmdrake]

I need to look at the post you made after the incident again because I remember it really pained me readying what you wrote. From my recollection, it was more than a tepid "glad he did not do something awful" type comment.

He handled the situation in such a way that both he and Iran could save face. That's better than simply "not doing something awful." By putting out the possibility that "Iran may have made a mistake" he had political cover not to do a strike. I thought that was a good move and still do. I think Obama signing the Iran nuke deal was a good move as well. Giving someone credit for an isolated case of doing the right thing isn't wrong. But you are free to disagree.

Do we know if he tried to pull off a false flag? the point is that I cannot give a man credit for something which he actively fought against doing. He wanted to stay in Iraq but circumstances out of his control made him to leave. Good on you for giving him credit for the withdrawal, I am not that generous with my compliments.

Okay. I'm not telling you to. You do you and I'll do me.

Credit for Syria?

Yes. Almost every other candidate besides Trump and Rand Paul (and maybe Bernie Sanders) was pushing for a no fly zone. That was world war 3 ready to happen. Folks give Trump hell for being friendly with Putin, but Putin and Iran took out ISIS and Trump stayed out of the way. Considering how bad our foreign policy has been for so long that counts for something.

[jmdrake]

We're not going to war with NK or Iran and the withdraw from Syria is happening, THUS NO REGIME CHANGE IN SYRIA. If DJT is walking to the tune of this agenda, why the concerted efforts to get him removed? Or is that all part of the "movie" charade keeping up the dichotomy of two parties? @jmdrake

We are closer to war with Iran than we were under Obama so Trump moved the PNAC ball forward in their favor on that one. We have effectively been stalemated on Syria by Russia. North Korea is too big of a nut (no pun intended) to crack at this point. They actually have nukes (unlike Saddam) and there's no way to do anything about that without endangering the thousands of U.S. military lives on the Korean peninsula, not to mention the civilian lives. And that's also why KJI will never give up his nukes. He saw what happened to Saddam and Qaddafi.

[UWDude]

While I don't agree with David Icke's views on alien overlords,

THPAITH LITHARDTH!!!!

[AngryCanadian]

Riiiight.

Is that symbol of the black sun?

[enhanced_deficit]

That Pope meme seems bit too controversial.

As is this meme:

[eleganz]

There is a big difference between trying to shoe Trump into whatever ideology you already possessed, and then taking him for who he is at face value, to truly understand who he is and what he is capable of.

Trump is simple if you are able to set all your biases aside and just observe him from his words to actions to reactions. Its really not that hard at all.

As for Icke....well I've been put off by him for a long long time.

[devil21]

Is that symbol of the black sun?

Black sun, white sun, it's celestial worship stories of applying human traits and names to the various sky entities then using those stories as control mechanisms. They just change up the names periodically and rebrand the same stories as new religions. Mary=Isis=Semiramis=Goddess El=etc etc. Most symbols like that have multiple definitions depending on the context in which it is used and the depth of understanding of the observer. Same with Francis' collar design. Looks like just decoration to the average observer but it's actually serpents and a representation of DNA...the bloodlines that control this whole reality.

IHS is "Jes". The Romans added the "us" at the end, as they were known to do to names to Romanticize (heh)....errr Romanize them, thus the creation of the name Jesus.

[Firestarter]

Interesting point about Iran. Come to think of it, Iran's leader in 2003 time frame had sent a thank you letter to Bush for invading Iraq and regime change there ( Saddam was replaced with Iranian exported leadership). During years of Iraqi freedom war, Iran had been quasi US ally in Iraq.

It's a strange tale, where both Saddam's Iraq and Khomeini's Iran were supplied with weapons from amongst others Britain and the US, to keep the war between them going.

Iran was even more actively involved in getting rid of the evil, "democratically elected" president of Yugoslavia Milosevic (destroying the country in the process): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...oros-amp-Mabel

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Zarif says government works 'closely' with George Soros' Open Society Foundations (George Soros was/is an important fincancer to Donald Trump and his son-in-law Jared Kushner): http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/251472