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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    What kind of food can be stored for a year? Even canned stuff goes bad eventually. Plus, in a SHTF scenario, you may not have the means to cook frozen/prepacked stuff. I don't know that I'd want to live on food that lasts for that long-it likely either tastes likes $#@! or is loaded with preservatives. (I keep a food stash, but I only buy things that I enjoy, and eat from it to keep it rotated and fresh) /curious
    http://www.internet-grocer.net/
    http://waltonfeed.com/
    http://beprepared.com/
    http://www.coopdirectory.org/

    Start with my tutorial:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-in-food-preps...

    I would update my advice to buying from a food coop and processing yourself for bulk grains / wheat as shiping will double the price if you can't pick it up locally.

    Then see these threads:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...PY-of-original

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...nomic-collapse

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...lso-shelf-life..

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-a-food-supply

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eze-dried-food

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ckpile-and-how

    That should keep you busy for a while

    -t
    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 03-28-2011 at 03:52 PM.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by AquaBuddha2010 View Post
    The checks won't stop coming! They just won't be able to buy anything!
    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2
    Checks will never stop coming. They just won't buy anything.
    Time will tell. Given consistent assumptions based on historical political events leading to our current economic condition, possibly... let's hope so. Personally, I'd like to see a slow implosion rather than an explosion, but ...
    Last edited by tpreitzel; 03-28-2011 at 04:04 PM.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    What event?? associated with shutdowns? besides a budget impasse.
    Oops, I overlooked this comment. No, the software has to be interpreted by humans so it's not a precise process. If no one else beats me to it, I'll have to search the InterNet for the process involved. Basically, the software looks for trends in online communications which then have to be interpreted by humans. Regardless, the checks will very likely stop coming in one form or another, i.e. through devaluation to worthless or by simply stopping distribution before the checks become worthless. The end result is similar. Naturally, the title of this thread, "When the Checks Stop Coming", implies the retention of value. The basic question is: Will this process continue to occur at a manageable pace or end explosively. I vote for the latter. The leak of deficit spending is increasing which will likely explode at some point. The explosion can be sudden hyperinflation or sudden termination of deficit spending....
    Last edited by tpreitzel; 03-28-2011 at 07:44 PM.
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  6. #34
    Epic, thanks. Some of that I knew, plenty of new stuff as well.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Epic, thanks. Some of that I knew, plenty of new stuff as well.
    yw!

    -t

  8. #36
    Assuming a SHTF scenario (though I'll have to reread this someday to figure out how checks not showing up lead to having to fend for yourself, grow your own food, etc.), it's important to remember something:

    Stored food still has a shelf life, ammo is limited, luxury comfort items are heavy... but skills weigh nothing and cannot be taken from you.
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

  9. #37
    If the SHTF, is life even worth living at that point? It will be prolonged scenario of hell on earth. Wouldn't it be easier to give yourself a bullet to the head?

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by easycougar View Post
    If the SHTF, is life even worth living at that point? It will be prolonged scenario of hell on earth. Wouldn't it be easier to give yourself a bullet to the head?
    ^^^city dweller....

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by easycougar View Post
    If the SHTF, is life even worth living at that point? It will be prolonged scenario of hell on earth. Wouldn't it be easier to give yourself a bullet to the head?
    Some will likely take this route. I will NOT sit in judgment of those folks who do. We're facing a tragedy of epic proportions, and I'll continue to work to prevent this sort of decision from being made.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by easycougar View Post
    If the SHTF, is life even worth living at that point? It will be prolonged scenario of hell on earth. Wouldn't it be easier to give yourself a bullet to the head?
    That would depend on what one believes makes life worth living.

    Is it the "stuff" or is it something more?

    I plan to continue even if I am living in the woods and digging cattail tubers for food.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by easycougar View Post
    If the SHTF, is life even worth living at that point? It will be prolonged scenario of hell on earth. Wouldn't it be easier to give yourself a bullet to the head?
    No way, aren't you down for some bevis and butthead style anarchy?

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by tpreitzel View Post
    Time will tell. Regardless of past funding promises, the situation with the budget is so critical that nearly anything can happen. The checks won't necessarily stop immediately as a result of this particular shutdown of federal operations. We've had shutdowns previously, but we're at a crossroads politically and economically. We're broke just like the South Koreans were and increasingly unwilling to compromise. The economic situation has become so dire that our very survival as a sovereign nation depends upon NOT compromising. Our very unwillingness to compromise might very likely be the catalyst for an economic explosion, but the economic situation can longer be ignored as it could in the past. This situation will likely explode, not slinker away in the dark.
    The United States is not broke. That is a nice talking point, but there is still plenty of private wealth that can be confiscated to send out the checks. Start with everyone's 401Ks. The checks won't stop. The government might cut benefits at the margins, or for certain groups to play "us vs them" but everything won't stop unless there is a cataclysm. Those checks are a big part of what keeps the Democrats and Republicans in power.

    While the financial situation is bad, I think people overlook just how long things can drag on for and just how many schemes the politicians can create to keep things going.

    The only thing that will stop the government cheese checks is a shift in political thought by a majority of the population.
    Last edited by PaleoForPaul; 03-29-2011 at 08:22 AM.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    That would depend on what one believes makes life worth living.

    Is it the "stuff" or is it something more?

    I plan to continue even if I am living in the woods and digging cattail tubers for food.
    Rabbit, squirrel, and porcupine... delicious.

    Of course, if you have no idea how to fend for yourself, the bullet to the head is probably better than trying to learn on the fly while constantly living in paranoia and fear
    Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoForPaul View Post
    The United States is not broke. That is a nice talking point, but there is still plenty of private wealth that can be confiscated to send out the checks. Start with everyone's 401Ks. The checks won't stop. The government might cut benefits at the margins, or for certain groups to play "us vs them" but everything won't stop unless there is a cataclysm. Those checks are a big part of what keeps the Democrats and Republicans in power.

    While the financial situation is bad, I think people overlook just how long things can drag on for and just how many schemes the politicians can create to keep things going.

    The only thing that will stop the government cheese checks is a shift in political thought by a majority of the population.
    Things would get bad very quickly if they took people's 401ks, at least I would hope so. I know we're a pretty pathetic nation of sheep, but at least openly confiscating your life savings should push people over the edge. But yeah, then what if it isn't out in the open so people will notice. I'm not sure what will happen. I'm worried, but I don't let that drive me in life.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoForPaul View Post
    The United States is not broke. That is a nice talking point, but there is still plenty of private wealth that can be confiscated to send out the checks. Start with everyone's 401Ks. The checks won't stop. The government might cut benefits at the margins, or for certain groups to play "us vs them" but everything won't stop unless there is a cataclysm. Those checks are a big part of what keeps the Democrats and Republicans in power.

    While the financial situation is bad, I think people overlook just how long things can drag on for and just how many schemes the politicians can create to keep things going.

    The only thing that will stop the government cheese checks is a shift in political thought by a majority of the population.
    1. The US is insolvent regardless of your assertion otherwise. Laughably, you mean the dozens of TRILLIONS of dollars in governmental, corporate, and personal DEBT equates to wealth ....
    2. The checks WILL stop coming... not even debatable. The only debatable point is the catalyst that finally lights the explosive end.
    3. As I indicated in previous posts, there IS a major ideological rift forming politically in the US Congress and will continue to widen in 2012. This rift is separated by ideological differences that will NOT compromise further. The time for compromise has passed us by several decades. The country is insolvent and the US dollar rapidly becoming worthless and most importantly, more and more politically aware Americans know it. This rift will widen in 2012.
    Last edited by tpreitzel; 03-29-2011 at 07:30 PM.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by QueenB4Liberty View Post
    Things would get bad very quickly if they took people's 401ks, at least I would hope so. I know we're a pretty pathetic nation of sheep, but at least openly confiscating your life savings should push people over the edge. But yeah, then what if it isn't out in the open so people will notice. I'm not sure what will happen. I'm worried, but I don't let that drive me in life.
    Of course, they won't take them out in the open. They'll wait for a stock market dip, then nationalize them in the name of "stabilizing the retirement plans of Americans so they're not subjected to the 'whims' of the stock market". They'll put them in US Treasuries or some other nonsense and say "We owe the money to ourselves!".

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by tpreitzel View Post
    1. The US is insolvent regardless of your assertion otherwise. Laughably, you mean the dozens of TRILLIONS of dollars in governmental, corporate, and personal DEBT equates to wealth ....
    401K's can be counted as wealth, because no matter how much you dislike the dollar it has value as long as other people will accept it. Furthermore there is plenty of privately held land and property that can be confiscated, and it has been legislated that the government has the right to do so. In fact, rather than focusing on yelling about America's debts (which everyone knows by now) it would probably be more constructive to focus on the fact that some other socialist scheme will be created to attempt to retire some of that debt. Remember how they confiscated gold during the depression? There is nothing that won't be done to perpetuate the system.

    2. The checks WILL stop coming... not even debatable. The only debatable point is the catalyst that finally lights the explosive end.
    Oh, eventually I'm sure. But don't underestimate the power politicians have to get people to accept legalized looting. This could easily carry on for a long time. The situation can stay irrational longer than our lifetimes.

    3. As I indicated in previous posts, there IS a major ideological rift forming politically in the US Congress and will continue to widen in 2012. This rift is separated by ideological differences that will NOT compromise further. The time for compromise has passed us by several decades. The country is insolvent and the US dollar rapidly becoming worthless and most importantly, more and more politically aware Americans know it. This rift will widen in 2012.
    I'd love to believe this is true, but if I had to bet, I'd put my money on welfare and social security checks still going out in 2014 and the federal government still running deficits.
    Last edited by PaleoForPaul; 03-30-2011 at 12:02 PM.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNcredibleEgg View Post
    There is virtually zero chance whatsoever that the "checks will stop coming."

    The checks will never stop. That's the problem - because their buying power will diminish slightly with each new check.

    But I have no doubts - the checks WILL keep coming.
    I was wondering about this. There's a whole lotta people out there that are on section 8 housing, getting their rent paid for by the government. Once you qualify for section 8, it's easy to stay on it indefinitely. I imagine they will still get their checks in the event of a government collapse, but, these checks won't likely cover their rent anymore, right? I'm having a hard time envisioning this scenario.



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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by QueenB4Liberty View Post
    Things would get bad very quickly if they took people's 401ks, at least I would hope so. I know we're a pretty pathetic nation of sheep, but at least openly confiscating your life savings should push people over the edge. But yeah, then what if it isn't out in the open so people will notice. I'm not sure what will happen. I'm worried, but I don't let that drive me in life.
    As Paleo pointed out above ... remember what happened w/ gold. They didn't just take the gold ... they simply switched out pieces of paper that said they were good in exchange for gold for pieces of paper that made no such claim, but otherwise looked the same. What happened to people that owned stock in Chrysler or GM? They got zilch. I owned stock in US Airways when it went under. Somehow, our beloved government declared that stock owned by the pilots would still be worth something an other people's stock was worth nothing.

    Don't expect a direct confiscation. But, don't be surprised by a substitution of something of lesser value for something of greater value.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugerrand View Post
    As Paleo pointed out above ... remember what happened w/ gold. They didn't just take the gold ... they simply switched out pieces of paper that said they were good in exchange for gold for pieces of paper that made no such claim, but otherwise looked the same. What happened to people that owned stock in Chrysler or GM? They got zilch. I owned stock in US Airways when it went under. Somehow, our beloved government declared that stock owned by the pilots would still be worth something an other people's stock was worth nothing.

    Don't expect a direct confiscation. But, don't be surprised by a substitution of something of lesser value for something of greater value.
    This is what will happen - the hope being that not enough people will be on to the scam until their wealth has been confiscated.
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