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Thread: With all the talk about "immigration" I think a look at the Barbary Pirates is valid

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    By 1795 1/6th of the US budget was used to pay ransom . At that point the only reasonable action would be to raise an Army large enough to exterminate those entire states and burn them to the ground .
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    Of course. Why not? That's not even a large number.

    Some kind of pre-crime law enforcement, where you punish people for what you predict they will do in the future, not based on anything they're actually guilty of, but just because, by the accident of birth, they happen to have some irrelevant thing in common with some other criminal, is utterly immoral.

    People who are actual guilty criminals, and can be proven guilty by due process, like the people you're worried about (or at least should be), we can punish. But not innocent people.
    ridiculous.This is not "thought crime".....having borders with borders being guarded is not the same as "thought crime" .



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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    By 1795 1/6th of the US budget was used to pay ransom . At that point the only reasonable action would be to raise an Army large enough to exterminate those entire states and burn them to the ground .
    stop talking about history, some people here don't like it very much, its so offensive ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    ridiculous.This is not "thought crime".....having borders with borders being guarded is not the same as "thought crime" .
    I didn't say thought crime, I said pre-crime.

    Punishing people for a crime for which you have no evidence that they're guilty, but you just think they're going to commit it in the future.

    And again, stop with these euphemisms about having borders. There's nothing about having borders, and guarding them, that requires that you limit peaceful people's ability to move across them.

  7. #35
    <sigh>

    Some people just never understood the message.

    Letters of Marque and Reprisal are a great way to deal with terrorism - I don't think anyone suggested differently - but to try to correlate it with this immigration fiasco?! Come on.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    I didn't say thought crime, I said pre-crime.

    Punishing people for a crime for which you have no evidence that they're guilty, but you just think they're going to commit it in the future.

    And again, stop with these euphemisms about having borders. There's nothing about having borders, and guarding them, that requires that you limit peaceful people's ability to move across them.
    you do realize that non citizens don't have the same rights as us ?They have unalienable rights...thats it.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    you do realize that non citizens don't have the same rights as us ?They have unalienable rights...thats it.
    You should study the case of Yick Wo v Hopkins... There's some great stuff in there!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yick_Wo_v._Hopkins

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/118/356



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