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"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
It’s time for Trump to acknowledge the new reality and call it like it truly is. It is no longer just a “military-congressional” complex, as first defined by Eisenhower. Trump should have no problem with a modern definition:
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex."
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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I said Bush and Obama funded/created ISIS, stop obfuscating. That is absolutely 100% true.
I don't "favor" going to war, but guess what? Trump isn't at war with a country, he is at war with ISIS.. which Bush and Obama created and funded. Our country is morally responsible for them being there and murdering people. YOU in particular are responsible because you didn't speak out against it. At least I spoke out against it. Which means you should be SHUTTING THE $#@! UP RIGHT NOW about foreign policy. Your credibility is "ZIP"
I don't know if I favor what Trump is doing in comparison to just coming home, but I favor that in comparison to going to war with other countries which is precisely what would be happening if anybody who was running other than Trump or Johnson or Rand was President.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
The way some people here are talking, its just about proving my point.
They want Trump to invade a new country so they can finally say, "I told you so!"
How ironic when you're so anti-war that you're pro war.
THE SQUAD of RPF
1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick
@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
^^^^^^^^^
There it is folks.
@EBounding @Superfluous Man @Ender
You guys need to stop promoting this trash.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Warning aircraft in the area they may be at risk at being shot down. Withdrawing diplomats. Sending military forces to the area with plans for up to 120,000 more should things get interesting. Yep- doing everything they can to avoid war. He says.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 05-20-2019 at 03:07 PM.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48338168
More at link.Iran Dismisses Trump's "Genocidal Taunts"
Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has dismissed US President Donald Trump's "genocidal taunts" and warned him not to threaten the country.
Amid rising tensions, Mr Trump tweeted on Sunday: "If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran."
Mr Zarif said the US president should look to history. "Iranians have stood tall for millennia while aggressors all gone... Try respect - it works!"
The US has deployed additional warships and planes to the Gulf in recent days.
But Mr Trump's tweet marked a shift in tone after recent attempts by him to downplay the possibility of a military conflict with Iran. When asked by reporters on Thursday if the US was going to war, he said: "I hope not."
Iranian state media reported on Monday that the country had increased by fourfold its production of low-enriched uranium, which was limited to a 300kg stockpile by the 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and world powers.
Behrouz Kamalvandi, spokesman for the Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran (AEOI), said Iran would "go beyond the 300kg limit in the not too distant future".
"If they want us to maintain this limit, it would be better for European countries to take the measures they want to implement as soon as possible."
Mr Trump unilaterally withdrew the US from the nuclear deal last year, but the European parties say they remain committed to it.
The US president's warning to Iran on Sunday was issued hours after a rocket was fired into the heavily fortified Green Zone in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, and hit a building about 0.5km (0.3 miles) from the US embassy.
The US recently evacuated non-emergency staff from the mission because of what it called a "serious" threat reportedly linked to Iran-backed forces in Iraq.
Writing on Twitter on Monday, Iran's foreign minister said the US president was being "goaded" by what he called the "B Team" - a reference to US National Security Adviser John Bolton, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman.
Mr Trump "hopes to achieve what Alexander [the Great], Genghis [Khan] & other aggressors failed to do. Iranians have stood tall for millennia while aggressors all gone. #EconomicTerrorism & genocidal taunts won't 'end Iran'," he added.
"#NeverThreatenAnIranian. Try respect - it works!"
Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members
Once Iran has a handful of capable nukes, and announces it*, Israel is going to be a little more reasonable about stealing land from Palestine.
And I noticed Pakistan just gave warning to the United States against doing anything stupid. The shia-sunni split is mostly localized to the middle east.
A nuclear sabre rattle.
*meaning they already have one or two untested but ready, but chances of knocking out Tel Aviv are small with only two warheads, so they need to stockpile, then announce.
Why then did Trump veto the bill to end the US role in the war in Yemen?
Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows
MAGA Allies: 'Bully Israel with undeclared nukes steals land'
Dangerous conspiracy theories on Right claim MAGA fake frontgroup
Poll: Should US apologize for financing radicalization of Afghan children in 80s?
Obama-Clinton Years: A Violent Chapter in World History
Trump: If (Neocon) Adelson Backs Rubio "He'll Have Total Control" Over Him
Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
I kind of feel like when you attack a politician no matter what they do, they won't have a clue what you want them to do. Maybe Trump needs a groundswell of praise for this stance.
Instead of "orange man bad."
Just sayin'. Even Ron Paul gives him credit where it's due. It's okay to still be skeptical, though.
Last edited by nobody's_hero; 05-20-2019 at 05:43 PM.
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
Mods, can we fix the thread title? It should say, "...claims he doesn't want war."
Interesting.
Am I reading it wrong or are you saying war is inevitable and no matter what we should just accept that?
Like I said. When you're so anti-war that you become pro-war. Its even apparent in your post.
It almost makes Trump look genius when he can use reverse psychology to make the left (and Libertarians on RPF) go insane on their own positions, just to be against him. In this case, he isn't even using reverse psychology. The guy genuinely appears to not want war. He'll talk tough to get opponents to the table, then praise them. Why would you praise somebody you want to go to war with?
Here is a breakdown of RPF TDS Edition;
RPF : No war, not now, not ever.
Trump : Nah I don't want war
RPF : WAR! Its inevitable!
Last edited by eleganz; 05-20-2019 at 06:19 PM.
THE SQUAD of RPF
1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick
@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
Hey Mods, @Superfluous Man claims to want to change the thread title but since Trump's own words cannot be accepted as proof, then SF's cannot be either. So...let's just ignore him entirely and believe what we want.
THE SQUAD of RPF
1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick
@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
I mean, it's *possible* that he doesn't want war, just like it was possible that Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Truman, Johnson, GWB, etc., didn't want war when they all said that.
But his claiming that doesn't make it so. And even the most deranged sufferer of Trump Idolization Syndrome has to admit that his word has proven not to count for much.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Last edited by nobody's_hero; 05-20-2019 at 06:46 PM.
T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men
"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato
We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me
Originally Posted by Philhelm
THE SQUAD of RPF
1. enhanced_deficit - Paid Troll / John Bolton book promoter
2. Devil21 - LARPing Wizard, fake magical script reader
3. Firestarter - Tax Troll; anti-tax = "criminal behavior"
4. TheCount - Comet Pizza Pedo Denier <-- sick
@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
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