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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    This is a colossal fail for Amash. Even if it is incrementally better, there's no way he or his staff had time to read the whole thing.
    It's like 100-150 pages. You could read that in one sitting.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I don't get it.

    Congress voted to abolish Obamacare, back when Obama was president and he vetoed it. What has happened that they can't send the same bill to Trump?
    Well you see, they are a bunch of whores.
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    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    Well you see, they are a bunch of whores.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    It's like 100-150 pages. You could read that in one sitting.
    It's 150 pages of changes to the original law, which means that for every paragraph that amends an old paragraph, you have to go look at what the old one says side by side with what the new one says. It's effectively the same length as Obamacare.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  7. #35
    This is a bunch of bull$#@!.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's 150 pages of changes to the original law, which means that for every paragraph that amends an old paragraph, you have to go look at what the old one says side by side with what the new one says. It's effectively the same length as Obamacare.
    Hmmm. I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the bill repeals Obamacare and then replaces it with this 150 page bill. (And the replacement bill includes some of the provisions in the original bill, such as allowing "kids" to stay on their parents insurance until age 26, and what knot.)

  9. #37
    Amash voted for increased North Korean sanctions today, too.

    Massie was the lone dissenting vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Amash voted for increased North Korean sanctions today, too.

    Massie was the lone dissenting vote.
    WTH
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
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  11. #39
    Massie's fan club should be named The Unwashed Massies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    Perhaps the most important lesson from Obamacare is that while liberty is lost incrementally, it cannot be regained incrementally. The federal leviathan continues its steady growth; sometimes boldly and sometimes quietly. Obamacare is just the latest example, but make no mistake: the statists are winning. So advocates of liberty must reject incremental approaches and fight boldly for bedrock principles.
    The epitome of libertarian populism

  12. #40
    Heh.



    https://twitter.com/justinamash/stat...74285520310272
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe






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  14. #41

    Thumbs down

    Quote Originally Posted by Feeding the Abscess View Post
    Amash voted for increased North Korean sanctions today, too.

    Massie was the lone dissenting vote.
    Damn... what the hell is wrong with this guy?


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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Heh.



    https://twitter.com/justinamash/stat...74285520310272
    Almost all of the comments are from liberals who call him "heartless" for voting in favor of the bill. That tells you everything you need to know.

    https://twitter.com/molly_knight/sta...76834188967936

    https://twitter.com/molly_knight/sta...75426798718976

    https://twitter.com/kellydraper/stat...77151442120708

    https://twitter.com/3fecta/status/860274799154692096
    Last edited by Brett85; 05-04-2017 at 05:48 PM.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I hope he voted for it, because the bill is better than what we have now, and incremental change is certainly better than keeping Obamacare in its current form. It was the moderate/liberal Republicans who voted against it.
    That's what you said a couple months ago about the bill he voted against. And now, if you're right about this bill, he was right to vote against the last one so that he could vote for this one instead.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Almost all of the comments are from liberals who call him "heartless" for voting in favor of the bill. That tells you everything you need to know.
    No it doesn't.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Almost all of the comments are from liberals who call him "heartless" for voting in favor of the bill. That tells you everything you need to know.

    https://twitter.com/molly_knight/sta...76834188967936

    https://twitter.com/molly_knight/sta...75426798718976

    https://twitter.com/kellydraper/stat...77151442120708

    https://twitter.com/3fecta/status/860274799154692096
    Lol so he should have voted for RyanCare last time and supported the Iraq war because the liberals didn't like them?
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    That's what you said a couple months ago about the bill he voted against. And now, if you're right about this bill, he was right to vote against the last one so that he could vote for this one instead.
    But this bill really has no chance to pass the Senate because it's too conservative. If a bill passes the Senate, it will be much less conservative than this one.

  20. #47
    Just took a look at his social media, it funny watching drooling slobs melt down over this.

    I don't agree with the vote but whatever. It is kind of amazing how worked up people get. It looks like Jim Jordan and Mulvaney were pretty adamant that he vote for the bill. There are always a lot of considerations on these votes. Just not a big deal. I think the only way to avoid a filibuster is to pass this bill and perhaps there is some consideration that it will be improved in the Senate. Although I do have to say, this bill looks like it is pretty loathsome to every political group.
    Last edited by Krugminator2; 05-04-2017 at 06:25 PM.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    I hope he voted for it, because the bill is better than what we have now, and incremental change is certainly better than keeping Obamacare in its current form. It was the moderate/liberal Republicans who voted against it.
    Better to keep it and let it crash and burn in this faux partisan tyranny.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    But this bill really has no chance to pass the Senate because it's too conservative. If a bill passes the Senate, it will be much less conservative than this one.
    Can't get too much less conservative or the Jordan/Paul/Lee coalition will again voice their opposition.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    Can't get too much less conservative or the Jordan/Paul/Lee coalition will again voice their opposition.
    Yeah, that's what will happen. The Senate will water down the bill, and then the house Freedom Caucus will announce their opposition to the watered down bill. The GOP won't be able to pass anything, and we'll be stuck with Obamacare forever.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    The GOP won't be able to pass anything, and we'll be stuck with Obamacare forever.
    Let it burn, baby.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Yeah, that's what will happen. The Senate will water down the bill, and then the house Freedom Caucus will announce their opposition to the watered down bill. The GOP won't be able to pass anything, and we'll be stuck with Obamacare forever.
    Paul, Lee, and Jordan should come out full sarcasm and announce that they've had a complete change of heart, now fully endorse the Democratic sponsored law known as Obamacare, and therefore cannot in good conscience vote for the Republican Healthcare Bill.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Yeah, that's what will happen. The Senate will water down the bill, and then the house Freedom Caucus will announce their opposition to the watered down bill. The GOP won't be able to pass anything, and we'll be stuck with Obamacare forever.
    You don't win by compromising.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Yeah, that's what will happen. The Senate will water down the bill, and then the house Freedom Caucus will announce their opposition to the watered down bill. The GOP won't be able to pass anything, and we'll be stuck with Obamacare forever.
    You are much too optimistic. There is definitely a chance that the Republicans' attempt to make things worse will succeed.

  29. #55

    https://twitter.com/justinamash/stat...78513286381568
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfluous Man View Post
    No it doesn't.
    Yes it does.



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    But this bill really has no chance to pass the Senate because it's too conservative. If a bill passes the Senate, it will be much less conservative than this one.
    Thats how we got obamacare

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    You don't win by compromising.
    Politics is all about compromise. That's the way our political system works. It's the only way you can actually govern. I guess you would oppose a bill that cuts tax rates from 20% to 15% just because it wouldn't completely abolish the IRS.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Politics is all about compromise. That's the way our political system works. It's the only way you can actually govern. I guess you would oppose a bill that cuts tax rates from 20% to 15% just because it wouldn't completely abolish the IRS.
    There's a difference between reducing something bad and replacing it with something also bad. Like Rand pointed out this puts the GOP on the record as supporting subsidies of Insurance Companies. It would be like if they repealed part of a gun ban and at the same time voted for another gun ban. Not cool. Not the same as reducing regulations and funding.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Brett85 View Post
    Politics is all about compromise. That's the way our political system works. It's the only way you can actually govern.
    Who cares about actually governing and continuing to prop up the way this crooked political system works? Nothing good comes of these stupid compromises.

    When Obama was president the Republican Congress passed a clean Obamacare repeal. They could have passed that same bill just by getting the people who already voted for it to vote for it again. And if they're not willing to vote for it, it should have been brought up for a vote just to make them go on record with their hypocrisy.

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