Sessions: DACA Being Rescinded

[dannno]

Notice how any time libertarians advocate laissez faire immigration policies, where the government stays out of the way and lets people move freely where they will, engaging in commerce with one another according to the agreements the various parties make with each other apart from any direction by central managers in the regime, the alt-right crowd tries to turn it reframe that as us actively intervening and "bringing in" or "importing" people from other countries.

It is impossible to have a "free" immigration policy when we have a huge socialist net, but nice try.

It's really more like prostitution, we pay them to come here. Would they come here without the socialism? Do they come here for the work, the culture, and the values of freedom, or do they come to vote for Democrats and get free handouts?

[dannno]

He's going to hold the reps responsible by revisiting the issue if they don't?

DACA was an unconstitutional executive fatwah, Trump got rid of it and handed it to congress - but he is giving them time to craft something, so they can either craft something that the American people like and vote for it, or they can vote for something they don't like and get primaried in 2018, or they can vote "no".

[juleswin]

He's going to hold the reps responsible by revisiting the issue if they don't?

This 1000x. People should understand that Trump is and has always been a NE big govt liberal. He is not trying to end DACA, he just wanted to make the law official, something Obama could not do.

The fan bois are eating this up like he was going to do something about children of illegals in the country. DACA or some form of it would be law in a year time and you can quote me on it.

[dannno]

This 1000x. People should understand that Trump is and has always been a NE big govt liberal. He is not trying to end DACA, he just wanted to make the law official, something Obama could not do.

The fan bois are eating this up like he was going to do something about children of illegals in the country. DACA or some form of it would be law in a year time and you can quote me on it.

I'm actually pretty ambivalent about what happens to the illegals, I'm more interested in what happens to the congress critters in 2018.

But keep watching CNN, by all means, just keep repeating what the mainstream media says because obviously that will get you very far in life.

[EBounding]

DACA was an unconstitutional executive fatwah, Trump got rid of it and handed it to congress - but he is giving them time to craft something, so they can either craft something that the American people like and vote for it, or they can vote for something they don't like and get primaried in 2018, or they can vote "no".

And what will happen if they don't come up with anything? I think Trump gives us a hint:

Nothing. He'll end up doing his own Trump executive order with many great and wonderful improvements.

[dannno]

And what will happen if they don't come up with anything? I think Trump gives us a hint:

Nothing. He'll end up doing his own Trump executive order with many great and wonderful improvements.

Well then maybe you should call up all the congress critters and tell them to call his bluff?

Of course you completely missed the entire point of why he is doing it this way.

[timosman]

And what will happen if they don't come up with anything? I think Trump gives us a hint:

Nothing. He'll end up doing his own Trump executive order with many great and wonderful improvements.

[juleswin]

I'm actually pretty ambivalent about what happens to the illegals, I'm more interested in what happens to the congress critters in 2018.

But keep watching CNN, by all means, just keep repeating what the mainstream media says because obviously that will get you very far in life.

Why would you say that to me? yes we disagree on 99.9% of the issues but that don't mean I am some CNN watching troll. so you know, I don't watch CNN other than the few seconds I see while in my patient's room. But if I did watch CNN, I would be going along with the fake story that Donald Trump did actually rescind DACA which I don't think he did. He just gave congress a 6 month window to come up with a bill and then after 6 month would he consider enforcing the pre DACA rules.

[Zippyjuan]

Well then maybe you should call up all the congress critters and tell them to call his bluff?

Of course you completely missed the entire point of why he is doing it this way.

Trump says a lot of things. And then says something different on the same subject. Which means you cannot take him at his word. That tweet was actually because Pelosi asked him to make it:

Pelosi urged Trump tweet on DACA, says president willing to sign Dream Act


President Trump indicated that he was willing to sign the long-stalled Dream Act into law if it passes Congress, House Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi said Thursday, another sign that Trump may be uneasy about his decision to phase out DACA.

Pelosi said she encouraged the president in a morning phone call to assure young immigrants that they are not in immediate danger of deportation.

Trump tweeted a message to the so-called Dreamers shortly after his conversation with Pelosi, saying they were in "no danger" during the six months he has given Congress to find a solution to the program.

"The president, I think -- I'm hoping and I'm praying ... that the president really cares about the Dreamers," the San Francisco Democrat told reporters.

Democrats have vowed to push a vote on the Dream Act, a bill first introduced in 2001 but never approved, as part of must-pass legislation on the congressional agenda this fall.

The latest version of the bill would put young immigrants who were brought into the country illegally as children on a path to legal status.

About 800,000 who received work permits and other protections under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program could be affected.

Trump on Wednesday outlined the contours of a deal that would beef up border security as part of a legislative fix for DACA, which President Obama created in 2012.

"It's very clear he wants Congress to act to get this done," Pelosi said, adding the president indicated he would suppport the Dream Act. "The president said he supports that, he would sign it."

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Which means you cannot take him at his word.

Pot, meet kettle.

[devil21]

Notice how any time libertarians advocate laissez faire immigration policies, where the government stays out of the way and lets people move freely where they will, engaging in commerce with one another according to the agreements the various parties make with each other apart from any direction by central managers in the regime, the alt-right crowd tries to turn it reframe that as us actively intervening and "bringing in" or "importing" people from other countries.

I recall reading that flyers were distributed throughout central america enticing them to migrate here, instead of the migration being merely freedom of choice through self-motivated education to find better opportunities. I also recall DHS being caught on camera multiple times resettling masses of border-jumping immigrants on buses.

Speaking of reframing, seems you're implying they all just decided to come here on a whim even though the historical evidence and the reality of how government debt is created says otherwise. I don't particularly hold a position on whether all of that was right or wrong but let's try to be intellectually honest, ok? Nice history re-writing attempt though!

[Superfluous Man]

I recall reading that flyers were distributed throughout central america enticing them to migrate here, instead of the migration being merely freedom of choice through self-motivated education to find better opportunities.

I'm not familiar with that story, but when someone chooses to do something in response to the enticement of what they read on a flyer, that's still freedom of choice through self-motivated education to find better opportunities. Or are you thinking the flyers had hypnotic powers?

[Weston White]

I'm not familiar with that story, but when someone chooses to do something in response to the enticement of what they read on a flyer, that's still freedom of choice through self-motivated education to find better opportunities. Or are you thinking the flyers had hypnotic powers?

You be't hypnodized!

[helmuth_hubener]

You know, now that Texas looks like this:




I bet it is going to wish it had more illegal immigrants around.

Moar Criminals will solverate EVERYTHING!

[timosman]

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