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    Stan Lee, Marvel Comics' Real-Life Superhero, Dies at 95

    Stan Lee, Marvel Comics' Real-Life Superhero, Dies at 95
    10:47 AM PST 11/12/2018 by Mike Barnes

    The feisty writer, editor and publisher was responsible for such iconic characters as Spider-Man, the X-Men, Thor, Iron Man, Black Panther and the Fantastic Four — 'nuff said.
    Stan Lee, the legendary writer, editor and publisher of Marvel Comics whose fantabulous but flawed creations made him a real-life superhero to comic book lovers everywhere, has died. He was 95.

    Lee, who began in the business in 1939 and created or co-created Black Panther, Spider-Man, the X-Men, the Mighty Thor, Iron Man, the Fantastic Four, the Incredible Hulk, Daredevil and Ant-Man, among countless other characters, died early Monday morning at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, a source told The Hollywood Reporter.

    Lee's final few years were tumultuous. After Joan, his wife of 69 years, died in July 2017, he sued executives at POW! Entertainment — a company he founded in 2001 to develop film, TV and video game properties — for $1 billion alleging fraud, then abruptly dropped the suit weeks later. He also sued his ex-business manager and filed for a restraining order against a man who had been handling his affairs. (Lee's estate is estimated to be worth as much as $70 million.) And in June 2018, it was revealed that the Los Angeles Police Department had been investigating reports of elder abuse against him.

    On his own and through his work with frequent artist-writer collaborators Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko (who died in July) and others, Lee catapulted Marvel from a tiny venture into the world's No. 1 publisher of comic books and, later, a multimedia giant.

    In 2009, The Walt Disney Co. bought Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion, and most of the top-grossing superhero films of all time — led by Avengers: Infinity War's $2.05 billion worldwide take earlier this year — have featured Marvel characters.

    "I used to think what I did was not very important," he told the Chicago Tribune in April 2014. "People are building bridges and engaging in medical research, and here I was doing stories about fictional people who do extraordinary, crazy things and wear costumes. But I suppose I have come to realize that entertainment is not easily dismissed."

    Lee's fame and influence as the face and figurehead of Marvel, even in his nonagenarian years, remained considerable.

    Beginning in the 1960s, the irrepressible and feisty Lee punched up his Marvel superheroes with personality, not just power. Until then, comic book headliners like those of DC Comics were square and well-adjusted, but his heroes had human foibles and hang-ups; Peter Parker/Spider-Man, for example, fretted about his dandruff and was confused about dating. The evildoers were a mess of psychological complexity.

    "His stories taught me that even superheroes like Spider-Man and the Incredible Hulk have ego deficiencies and girl problems and do not live in their macho fantasies 24 hours a day," Gene Simmons of Kiss said in a 1979 interview. "Through the honesty of guys like Spider-Man, I learned about the shades of gray in human nature."

    (Kiss made it to the Marvel pages, and Lee had Simmons bleed into a vat of ink so the publisher could say the issues were printed with his blood.)

    The Manhattan-born Lee wrote, art-directed and edited most of Marvel's series and newspaper strips. He also penned a monthly comics column, “Stan's Soapbox,” signing off with his signature phrase, “Excelsior!”

    His way of doing things at Marvel was to brainstorm a story with an artist, then write a synopsis. After the artist drew the story panels, Lee filled in the word balloons and captions. The process became known as “The Marvel Method.”

    Lee collaborated with artist-writer Kirby on the Fantastic Four, Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, Silver Surfer and X-Men. With artist-writer Ditko he created Spider-Man and the surgeon Doctor Strange, and with artist Bill Everett came up with the blind superhero Daredevil.

    Such collaborations sometimes led to credit disputes: Lee and Ditko reportedly engaged in bitter fights, and both receive writing credit on the Spider-Man movies and TV shows. "I don't want anyone to think I treated Kirby or Ditko unfairly," he told Playboy magazine in April 2014. "I think we had a wonderful relationship. Their talent was incredible. But the things they wanted weren't in my power to give them."

    Like any Marvel employee, Lee had no rights to the characters he helped create and received no royalties.

    In the 1970s, Lee importantly helped push the boundaries on censorship in comics, delving into serious and topical subject matter in a medium that had become mindless, kid-friendly entertainment.

    In 1954, the publication of psychologist Frederic Wertham's book Seduction of the Innocent had spurred calls for the government to regulate violence, sex, drug use, questioning of public authority figures, etc., in the comics as a way to curtail "juvenile delinquency." Wary publishers headed that off by forming the Comics Code Authority, a self-censoring body that while avoiding the heavy hand of Washington still wound up neutering adult interest in comics and stereotyping the medium as one only kids would enjoy.

    Lee scripted banal scenarios with characters like Nellie the Nurse and Tessie the Typist, but in 1971, he inserted an anti-drug storyline into "The Amazing Spider-Man” in which Peter Parker's best friend Harry Osborn popped pills. Those issues, which did not carry the CCA "seal of approval" on the covers, became extremely popular, and later, the organization relaxed some of its guidelines.

    Born Stanley Martin Lieber on Dec. 28, 1922, he grew up poor in Washington Heights, where his father, a Romanian immigrant, was a dress-cutter. A lover of adventure books and Errol Flynn movies, Lee graduated from DeWitt Clinton High School, joined the WPA Federal Theatre Project, where he appeared in a few stage shows, and wrote obituaries.

    In 1939, Lee got a job as a gofer for $8 a week at Marvel predecessor Timely Comics. Two years later, for Kirby and Joe Simon's Captain America No. 3, he wrote a two-page story titled "The Traitor's Revenge!" that was used as text filler to qualify the company for the inexpensive magazine mailing rate. He used the pen name Stan Lee.

    He was named interim editor at 19 by publisher Martin Goodman when the previous editor quit. In 1942, he enlisted in the Army and served in the Signal Corps, where he wrote manuals and training films with a group that included Oscar-winner Frank Capra, Pulitzer-winner William Saroyan and Theodor Geisel (aka Dr. Seuss). After the war, he returned to the publisher and served as the editor for decades.

    Following DC Comics' lead with the Justice League, Lee and Kirby in November 1961 launched their own superhero team, the Fantastic Four, for the newly renamed Marvel Comics, and Hulk, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Daredevil and X-Men soon followed. The Avengers launched as its own title in September 1963.

    Perhaps not surprisingly, Manhattan's high-literary culture vultures did not bestow its approval on how Lee was making a living. People would “avoid me like I had the plague. … Today, it's so different,” he once told The Washington Post.

    Not everyone felt the same way, though. Lee recalled once being visiting in his New York office by Federico Fellini, who wanted to talk about nothing but Spider-Man.

    In 1972, Lee was named publisher and relinquished the Marvel editorial reins to spend all his time promoting the company. He moved to Los Angeles in 1980 to set up an animation studio and to build relationships in Hollywood. Lee purchased a home overlooking the Sunset Strip that was once owned by Jack Benny's announcer, Don Wilson.

    Long before his Marvel characters made it to the movies, they appeared on television. An animated Spider-Man show (with a memorable theme song composed by Oscar winner Paul Francis Webster, of "The Shadow of Your Smile" fame, and Bob Harris) ran on ABC from 1967 to 1970. Bill Bixby played Dr. David Banner, who turns into a green monster (Lou Ferrigno) when he gets agitated, in the 1977-82 CBS drama The Incredible Hulk. And Pamela Anderson provided the voice of Stripperella, a risque animated Spike TV series that Lee wrote for in 2003-04.

    Lee launched the internet-based Stan Lee Media in 1998, and the superhero creation, production and marketing studio went public a year later. However, when investigators uncovered illegal stock manipulation by his partners, the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in 2001. (Lee was never charged.)

    In 2002, Lee published an autobiography, Excelsior! The Amazing Life of Stan Lee.

    Survivors include a daughter, J.C., and younger brother Larry Lieber, a writer and artist for Marvel. Another daughter, Jan, died in infancy. His wife, Joan, was a hat model whom he married in 1947.

    Like Alfred Hitchcock before him, the never-bashful Lee appeared in cameos in the Marvel movies, shown avoiding falling concrete, watering his lawn, delivering the mail, crashing a wedding, playing a security guard, etc.

    In Spider-Man 3 (2007), he chats with Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker as they stop on a Times Square street to read news that the web-slinger will soon receive the key to the city. “You know," he says, "I guess one person can make a difference … 'nuff said.”

    Duane Byrge and Borys Kit contributed to this report.
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-legend-721450
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    Now that is very sad. The last of the original comic book greats of the 20th Century is now gone. End of an era.
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    Many may have no interest in remembering him, but I always will. Stan Lee, along with others like Robin Williams and George Carlin.
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    RIP. Might be the saddest death of the year so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    Now that is very sad. The last of the original comic book greats of the 20th Century is now gone. End of an era.

    The comic book world will never be quite the same. A real tragedy.
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    RIP Mr. Lee

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    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Spider-Man, the X-Men, Thor, Iron Man, Black Panther and the Fantastic Four
    They would have been much more interesting and believable heroes had they a better respect for the law, and not resorted to vigilantism.
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    Not gonna lie I was hoping he'd make it to 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    RIP. Might be the saddest death of the year so far.

    ^^^^This^^^^
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    They would have been much more interesting and believable heroes had they a better respect for the law, and not resorted to vigilantism.

    Hells yeah. They were practically ANARCHISTS for Christ's sakes.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    I'm really sad about Stan dying, and the circumstances he was living under just before, but that $#@! is FUNNY!
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

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    Stan Lee's net worth is estimated between $50-80 million.

    Marvel's superhero flick's have netted $24 billion in box office alone, not to mention the merchandising.

    $50 million doesn't seem like much in comparison, for the guy that created it all.
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    Read my share of Marvel comics back in the day... RIP SL
    ... ushered in the silver age of comics with this one...



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    Here's a list of some of the characters he created. I don't think it's exhaustive.


    A
    Abomination (comics)
    Absorbing Man
    Acrobat (comics)
    Actor (comics)
    Adria (comics)
    Aged Genghis
    Agent X (Jim Burley)
    Agon (comics)
    Air-Walker
    Liz Allan
    Amphibion
    Ancient One
    Annihilus
    Ant-Man
    Ape-Man
    Ares (Marvel Comics)
    Asbestos Man
    Athena (Marvel Comics)
    Attuma
    Avengers (comics)
    Awesome Android


    B
    Balder (comics)
    Batroc the Leaper
    Beast (comics)
    Beetle (comics)
    Billy Connors (comics)
    Black Bolt
    Black Knight (comics)
    Black Knight (Nathan Garrett)
    Black Knight (Sir Percy)
    Black Panther (comics)
    Black Widow (Marvel Comics)
    Black Widow (Natasha Romanova)
    Blastaar
    Blizzard (comics)
    Blob (comics)
    Bluebird (Marvel Comics)
    Boomerang (comics)
    Bor (Marvel Comics)
    Betty Brant
    Brother Voodoo
    Brotherhood of Mutants
    Burglar (comics)


    C
    Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
    Peggy Carter
    Sharon Carter
    Cat-Man (Marvel Comics)
    Chameleon (comics)
    Circus of Crime
    Clea
    Clown (comics)
    Cobra (Marvel Comics)
    Izzy Cohen
    Collector (comics)
    Crime Master
    Crimson Dynamo
    Crystal (comics)
    Cyclops (Marvel Comics)
    Cyttorak


    D
    Daily Bugle
    Daredevil (Marvel Comics character)
    Death-Stalker
    Destroyer (Marvel Comics)
    Diablo (Marvel Comics)
    Doctor Strange
    Doctor Doom
    Doomsday Man
    Dormammu
    Dorrek VII
    Dragon Man
    Dredmund the Druid
    Doctor Druid
    Dum Dum Dugan


    E
    Eel (comics)
    Egghead (Marvel Comics)
    Ego the Living Planet
    Electro (Marvel Comics)
    Elektro (comics)
    Enchantress (Marvel Comics)
    Enclave (comics)
    Enforcers (comics)
    Eternity (comics)
    Executioner (comics)


    F
    Fafnir (Marvel Comics)
    Falcon (comics)
    Fancy Dan
    Fandral
    Fantastic Four
    Farley Stillwell
    Doctor Faustus (comics)
    Femizons
    Fenris Wolf (Marvel Comics)
    Fin Fang Foom
    Richard Fisk
    Vanessa Fisk
    Fixer (comics)
    Funky Flashman
    Forbush Man
    Bill Foster (comics)
    Jane Foster (comics)
    Frederick Foswell
    Frankenstein's Monster (Marvel Comics)
    Freak (Marvel Comics)
    Frigga (comics)
    Frightful Four
    Nick Fury


    G
    Galactus
    Galaxy Master
    Mac Gargan
    Gargoyle (comics)
    Giant-Man
    Gibbon (comics)
    Gladiator (Melvin Potter)
    Goliath (Marvel Comics)
    Googam
    Goom
    Gorgilla
    Gorgon (Inhuman)
    The Governator
    Gregory Gideon
    Grey Gargoyle
    Jean Grey
    Dr. John Grey (comics)
    Grizzly (comics)
    Groot
    Growing Man
    The Guardian Project (comics)


    H
    H.E.R.B.I.E.
    Agatha Harkness
    Hate-Monger
    Hawkeye (comics)
    Heimdall (comics)
    Hela (comics)
    Hera (Marvel Comics)
    Hercules (Marvel Comics)
    Hermes (Marvel Comics)
    High Evolutionary
    Hippolyta (Marvel Comics)
    Happy Hogan (comics)
    Hogun
    Hulk (comics)
    Human Cannonball (Marvel Comics)
    Human Torch


    I
    Iceman (Marvel Comics)
    Idunn (comics)
    Immortus
    Impossible Man
    Inhumans
    Invisible Woman
    Iron Man


    J
    Jack Frost (Marvel Comics)
    Jack Murdock (comics)
    Jackal (Marvel Comics)
    J. Jonah Jameson
    John Jameson (comics)
    Edwin Jarvis
    Abner Jenkins
    Jester (Marvel Comics)
    Gabe Jones
    Rick Jones (comics)
    Erik Josten
    Juggernaut (comics)
    Junior Juniper


    K
    Ka-Zar (comics)
    Kaecilius
    Kala (comics)
    Kaluu
    Kang the Conqueror
    Kangaroo (comics)
    Karnak (comics)
    Karnilla
    Master Khan
    Kid Colt
    Kingpin (character)
    Klaw (Marvel Comics)
    Eric Koenig
    Krang (Marvel Comics)
    Kraven the Hunter
    Kree


    L
    Laufey (comics)
    Leader (comics)
    Leap-Frog (comics)
    Ned Leeds
    Living Brain
    Living Laser
    Living Tribunal
    Lizard (comics)
    Lockjaw (comics)
    Loki (comics)
    Looter (comics)
    Lucifer (Marvel Comics)
    Willie Lumpkin


    M
    Machinesmith
    Mad Thinker
    Madame Masque
    Magneto (comics)
    Man Mountain Marko
    Man-Beast
    Man-Thing
    Mandarin (comics)
    Dino Manelli
    Mangog
    Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell)
    Martha Connors
    Marvel Boy
    Marvel Boy (Robert Grayson)
    Masked Marauder
    Mastermind (Jason Wyngarde)
    Alicia Masters
    Matador (Marvel Comics)
    Maximus (comics)
    Aunt May
    Medusa (comics)
    Melter
    Mentallo
    Mephisto (comics)
    Merlin (Marvel Comics)
    Metal Master (comics)
    Midgard Serpent (Marvel Comics)
    Millie the Model
    Mimic (comics)
    Mindless Ones
    Miracle Man
    Mister Fantastic
    Mister Fear
    Mister Hyde (comics)
    MODOK
    Mole Man
    Molecule Man
    Molten Man
    Monsteroso
    Montana (comics)
    Baron Mordo
    Mordred (comics)
    Morgan le Fay (Marvel Comics)
    Morrat
    Mother Night (comics)
    Mysterio


    N
    Count Nefaria
    Foggy Nelson
    Night Nurse (comics)
    Nightmare (Marvel Comics)


    O
    Doctor Octopus
    Odin (comics)
    Olympians (Marvel Comics)
    Harry Osborn
    Norman Osborn
    Overmind (comics)
    Owl (Marvel Comics)
    Ox (comics)


    P
    Karen Page
    Painter (comics)
    Richard and Mary Parker
    Pinky Pinkerton
    Plantman
    Plunderer (comics)
    Pluto (Marvel Comics)
    Porcupine (comics)
    Pepper Potts
    Princess Python
    Prowler (comics)
    Psycho-Man
    Puppet Master (Marvel Comics)
    Purple Man
    Hank Pym


    Q
    Quasimodo (comics)
    Quicksilver (comics)


    R
    Radioactive Man (comics)
    Rebel Ralston
    Rattler (comics)
    Ravage 2099
    Ravonna
    Rawhide Kid
    Red Barbarian
    Red Ghost
    Redwing (Marvel Comics)
    Rhino (comics)
    Franklin Richards (comics)
    Ringmaster (comics)
    Randy Robertson
    Robbie Robertson (comics)
    Ronan the Accuser
    Betty Ross
    Thunderbolt Ross


    S
    Sandman (Marvel Comics)
    Happy Sam Sawyer
    Scarecrow (Marvel Comics)
    Scarlet Witch
    Scorpion (Marvel Comics)
    Sentinel (comics)
    Sentry (Kree)
    Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos
    Shalla-Bal
    She-Hulk
    Shocker (comics)
    Sif (comics)
    Silver Surfer
    Silvermane
    Sinister Six
    Jasper Sitwell
    Skrull
    Sleeper (Marvel Comics)
    Spencer Smythe
    Space Phantom
    Spider-Man
    Spider-Slayer
    Spymaster (comics)
    George Stacy
    Gwen Stacy
    Starborn
    Stilt-Man
    Franklin Storm
    Stranger (comics)
    Stripperella
    Mendel Stromm
    Strongman (comics)
    Baron Strucker
    Super-Adaptoid
    Super-Skrull
    Supreme Intelligence
    Surtur (Marvel Comics)
    Swordsman (comics)


    T
    T'Chaka
    Glenn Talbot
    Thing (comics)
    Flash Thompson
    Thor (Marvel Comics)
    Tiboro
    Tigra
    Tinkerer
    Titanium Man
    Toad (comics)
    Trapster
    Bolivar Trask
    Triton (comics)
    Tumbler (comics)
    Two-Gun Kid
    Tyr (Marvel Comics)
    Tyrannus (comics)


    U
    Uatu
    Ulik
    Ultimo (Marvel Comics)
    Uncle Ben
    Unicorn (comics)
    Unus the Untouchable


    V
    Vanisher
    Volla (comics)
    Volstagg
    Vulture (Marvel Comics)


    W
    Walking Stiletto
    Adam Warlock
    Warriors Three
    Wasp (comics)
    Watcher (comics)
    Mary Jane Watson
    Whiplash (comics)
    Whirlwind (comics)
    Whiz Wilson
    Wyatt Wingfoot
    Witness (comics)
    Wizard (Marvel Comics)
    Wonder Man
    Wong (comics)
    Wong-Chu
    Warren Worthington III
    Wrecker (comics)


    X
    X-Men
    Professor X
    Xemu (comics)


    Y
    Yancy Street Gang
    Ho Yinsen
    Ymir (Marvel Comics)
    Yon-Rogg
    Yondu


    Z
    Zabu
    Baron Zemo
    Heinrich Zemo
    Zeus (Marvel Comics)
    Zombie (comics)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Stan Lee's net worth is estimated between $50-80 million.

    Marvel's superhero flick's have netted $24 billion in box office alone, not to mention the merchandising.

    $50 million doesn't seem like much in comparison, for the guy that created it all.

    Stan Lee didn't actually own any part of the characters he created. Unlike nowadays, at that time people working in comics worked under work for hire contracts. Everything they created was wholly owned by the company they worked for by contract. This was typical in those days. In some cases the comic publishers have made some concessions on this in order to better conform to modern sensibilities. I'm not sure if such was the case with Lee.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  25. #22
    I wonder how many artists of various forms of media have been influences by Stan Lee.

    Can Mr. Rogers deny that his Mr. McFeely character is a blatant imitation of Lee's Willie Lumpkin?

  26. #23
    ADULTING

    http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher...11/16/adulting

    November 17, 2018

    By Bill Maher

    The guy who created Spider-Man and the Hulk has died, and America is in mourning. Deep, deep mourning for a man who inspired millions to, I don’t know, watch a movie, I guess. Someone on Reddit posted, “I'm so incredibly grateful I lived in a world that included Stan Lee.” Personally, I’m grateful I lived in a world that included oxygen and trees, but to each his own. Now, I have nothing against comic books – I read them now and then when I was a kid and I was all out of Hardy Boys. But the assumption everyone had back then, both the adults and the kids, was that comics were for kids, and when you grew up you moved on to big-boy books without the pictures.

    But then twenty years or so ago, something happened – adults decided they didn’t have to give up kid stuff. And so they pretended comic books were actually sophisticated literature. And because America has over 4,500 colleges – which means we need more professors than we have smart people – some dumb people got to be professors by writing theses with titles like Otherness and Heterodoxy in the Silver Surfer. And now when adults are forced to do grown-up things like buy auto insurance, they call it “adulting,” and act like it’s some giant struggle.

    I’m not saying we’ve necessarily gotten stupider. The average Joe is smarter in a lot of ways than he was in, say, the 1940s, when a big night out was a Three Stooges short and a Carmen Miranda musical. The problem is, we’re using our smarts on stupid stuff. I don’t think it’s a huge stretch to suggest that Donald Trump could only get elected in a country that thinks comic books are important.

  27. #24
    So apparently a lot of SJWs on twitter are celebrating his death.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    So apparently a lot of SJWs on twitter are celebrating his death.
    Oh?

    And what's got sand in their vaginas about Stan Lee?

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ADULTING

    http://www.real-time-with-bill-maher...11/16/adulting

    November 17, 2018

    By Bill Maher

    The guy who created Spider-Man and the Hulk has died, and America is in mourning. Deep, deep mourning for a man who inspired millions to, I don’t know, watch a movie, I guess. Someone on Reddit posted, “I'm so incredibly grateful I lived in a world that included Stan Lee.” Personally, I’m grateful I lived in a world that included oxygen and trees, but to each his own. Now, I have nothing against comic books – I read them now and then when I was a kid and I was all out of Hardy Boys. But the assumption everyone had back then, both the adults and the kids, was that comics were for kids, and when you grew up you moved on to big-boy books without the pictures.

    But then twenty years or so ago, something happened – adults decided they didn’t have to give up kid stuff. And so they pretended comic books were actually sophisticated literature. And because America has over 4,500 colleges – which means we need more professors than we have smart people – some dumb people got to be professors by writing theses with titles like Otherness and Heterodoxy in the Silver Surfer. And now when adults are forced to do grown-up things like buy auto insurance, they call it “adulting,” and act like it’s some giant struggle.

    I’m not saying we’ve necessarily gotten stupider. The average Joe is smarter in a lot of ways than he was in, say, the 1940s, when a big night out was a Three Stooges short and a Carmen Miranda musical. The problem is, we’re using our smarts on stupid stuff. I don’t think it’s a huge stretch to suggest that Donald Trump could only get elected in a country that thinks comic books are important.
    Personally, I'm grateful for trees, oxygen, and Stan Lee. Does Maher think people can only be grateful for one thing and they should choose wisely? (especially odd considering he choose two things) I'd also like to point out that my Hardy Boys books had some drawings sprinkled through the book. Not as many pictures as a comic book, but still. And how can anyone with a bit of smarts in their brain not see how witty and deep comics like Calvin and Hobbes are? Lots of pictures. Lots of wisdom. Also, just because a book doesn't have pictures doesn't make it more important or worthy of reading than a comic.

    I'll never give up comic books. Why should I? I enjoy them and buying car insurance isn't a struggle for me in the least since I only ever got one ticket in 1997. I also use the word adulting. It doesn't mean I think what I'm doing is hard because I used all my smarts reading a comic on the $#@!ter, it just means it's an adult chore I don't like doing. And frankly, anyone who would rather use their smarts paying car insurance than reading a comic on the crapper is someone who really needs some excitement in their life. And I don't get why he cares about me using my smarts on comics - whatever that means. Does he think my smarts are rationed and if I read a comic it makes buying car insurance hard?

    Yes, there are dumb professors who write dumb papers about a great many dumb topics. So what? Does he think we ran out of smart people and that's why the colleges hired dumb people to be professors?

    So people using their important smarts on comic books gave us Donald Trump? How does considering comics important inspire people to MAGA? What should be important to people? To me, lots of things are important. I don't want to brag but I actually consider a great many things important. I actually think comic books are more important than Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton combined. Hell, I wouldn't even piss on Clinton if she was on fire. Trump's a toss up. It would depend on my mood and how much beer I drank. I would definitely piss on my comic book collection.

    And how does he know how smart average Joe was in the 1940's?

    Maher supported Clinton. When are these people going to realize she didn't lose because of the Russians, the patriarchy, white women, racism, or comic books? She lost because she is such a massive pile of she made Trump look good.


    I can't believe I wasted some of my important smarts reading this garbage. I'm not sure I have enough leftover to be grateful for trees, oxygen, and books without pictures.




    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Oh?

    And what's got sand in their vaginas about Stan Lee?


    My best guess is it's because he was a successful white man with a sense of humor who invented characters young boys admire and men enjoy. Young girls and women also enjoy the stories and characters but the comic book world is male dominated. Plus, it's fun and people who think comics are important gave us Donald Trump because they wasted their important smarts on stupid things(Bill Maher told me so).
    Last edited by Suzanimal; 11-19-2018 at 05:06 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Personally, I'm grateful for trees, oxygen, and Stan Lee. Does Maher think people can only be grateful for one thing and they should choose wisely? (especially odd considering he choose two things) I'd also like to point out that my Hardy Boys books had some drawings sprinkled through the book. Not as many pictures as a comic book, but still. And how can anyone with a bit of smarts in their brain not see how witty and deep comics like Calvin and Hobbes are? Lots of pictures. Lots of wisdom. Also, just because a book doesn't have pictures doesn't make it more important or worthy of reading than a comic.

    I'll never give up comic books. Why should I? I enjoy them and buying car insurance isn't a struggle for me in the least since I only ever got one ticket in 1997. I also use the word adulting. It doesn't mean I think what I'm doing is hard because I used all my smarts reading a comic on the $#@!ter, it just means it's an adult chore I don't like doing. And frankly, anyone who would rather use their smarts paying car insurance than reading a comic on the crapper is someone who really needs some excitement in their life. And I don't get why he cares about me using my smarts on comics - whatever that means. Does he think my smarts are rationed and if I read a comic it makes buying car insurance hard?

    Yes, there are dumb professors who write dumb papers about a great many dumb topics. So what? Does he think we ran out of smart people and that's why the colleges hired dumb people to be professors?

    So people using their important smarts on comic books gave us Donald Trump? How does considering comics important inspire people to MAGA? What should be important to people? To me, lots of things are important. I don't want to brag but I actually consider a great many things important. I actually think comic books are more important than Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton combined. Hell, I wouldn't even piss on Clinton if she was on fire. Trump's a toss up. It would depend on my mood and how much beer I drank. I would definitely piss on my comic book collection.

    And how does he know how smart average Joe was in the 1940's?

    Maher supported Clinton. When are these people going to realize she didn't lose because of the Russians, the patriarchy, white women, racism, or comic books? She lost because she is such a massive pile of she made Trump look good.


    I can't believe I wasted some of my important smarts reading this garbage. I'm not sure I have enough leftover to be grateful for trees, oxygen, and books without pictures.








    My best guess is it's because he was a successful white man with a sense of humor who invented characters young boys admire and men enjoy. Young girls and women also enjoy the stories and characters but the comic book world is male dominated. Plus, it's fun and people who think comics are important gave us Donald Trump because they wasted their important smarts on stupid things(Bill Maher told me so).
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Suzanimal again.


  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Suzanimal again.
    Covered.

    Just for the record, I think Maher is an $#@!, and did not agree with his post, I was just setting it out there.

  33. #29

  34. #30
    At the 1:52 mark ass is omitted from the lyrics.

    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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