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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Things look to be going more sideways by the day. Like everything coming out of the media lately, this whole story is just bizarre. What are the odds that someone attacks Rand and gets a small bond at the same time Rand is looking to make bond procedures an issue (though can be argued that bond is a state issue, not a fed issue). And the Sheriff's office screws his name up so badly in the booking record but the media knows exactly how his name is spelled correctly? It's all just very strange.
    I agree, something very screwy about this.



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    Possible Motive Discovered In Attack On Rand Paul – It’s BAD…

    Quote Originally Posted by MRK View Post
    This is upsetting. Broken bones cause a lot of lasting damage and discomfort.

    Hopefully Rand will be able to get this guy out of his house so he can live in peace.
    Sue the bastard, civilly, and take his house and everything else and leave him walking the streets.

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    What is coming up in the near future that THEY want Rand out of action for?
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    Possible Motive Discovered In Attack On Rand Paul – It’s BAD…

    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) suffered minor injuries after being assaulted at his home in Bowling Green Friday afternoon. Now, we know a possible motive in the crime.

    According to the Daily Caller, records with Kentucky State Board of Election show the alleged assailant, Rene Boucher, is a registered Democrat. Fox News also noted that “a person with his name also works as an anesthesiologist in Bowling Green.”

    The Daily Caller also revealed that a Facebook account that appears to Boucher’s contains multiple anti-President Donald Trump postings.

    On May 17, Boucher posted, “May Robert Mueller fry Trump’s gonads,” a reference to the former FBI director’s investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian government.

    There are no postings on the account about Paul, though there are many others that criticize Republicans in general.

    Boucher shared posts from Occupy Democrats, a popular Facebook page for liberals and progressives.

    He shared one Occupy Democrats post that cited left-wing academic Noam Chomsky’s criticizing the Republican party as “the most dangerous organization in world history.”

    A neighbor who witnessed the assault told WNKY-TV that Paul and Boucher are next-door neighbors and Paul was mowing his lawn at the time of the assault. According to the neighbor, Paul and Boucher share a corner adjacent to their homes and they have been embroiled in an ongoing feud.

    Boucher was arrested and charged with fourth-degree assault. He could spend up to 12 months in jail if guilty.
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  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Secession, Now.
    It doesn't really work when you are all clumped together, unfortunately. In 1861 the differences in ideology were neatly drawn along regional borders, perhaps with the exception of the Mason-Dixon areas. This guy was his friggin neighbor, and I think we both know what neighbors are good for.

    What is more likely to happen is a "Bleeding Kansas" situation where people are just beating each other in the streets. Hell, it's already starting to look like that, even in the well-to-do communities of doctors. Bring it on, I say. We're just delaying the inevitable.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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  5. #124
    Just heard about this last night... hope he'll be alright.

    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    It is not easy to break multiple ribs. Such an injury would have to be caused by use of lethal force. Why are these charges not more severe than "4th degree assault?"
    The page said Boucher is a former Army pain-management specialist and graduated from the College of Osteopathic Medicine in Des Moines in 1984.
    Given his education/profession, it would seem he'd have some knowledge of how to maximize injury to his victim, eh?

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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Dang, that's really bad. I just bruised a rib once and it hurt to breathe for weeks.
    So did I.

    The doctors said that bruised ribs hurt more than broken ones do. Apparently if your ribs break it relieves pressure but the bruised rib just swells and is irritated by breathing.

    I thought I was having a heart attack.

  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by The Northbreather View Post
    So did I.

    The doctors said that bruised ribs hurt more than broken ones do. Apparently if your ribs break it relieves pressure but the bruised rib just swells and is irritated by breathing.

    I thought I was having a heart attack.
    I thought I had punctured a lung. I slipped in the shower and my rib cage hit right across the side of the tub and the whole way to the emergency room I thought, so this is how it ends for me. o_O
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  8. #127
    News says Rand was tackled from behind, causing the injury. But this whole thing stinks....

    Rand and co. downplayed the injury...

    Only misdemeanor charge for the perp...

    Guy is a fellow doctor in his neighborhood at his house...

    I don't think we are getting the whole story here. My mind immediately went to "guys only do this when women or money are involved".... hope there's no funny business here.
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  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Murray N Rothbard View Post
    It is not easy to break multiple ribs. Such an injury would have to be caused by use of lethal force. Why are these charges not more severe than "4th degree assault?"
    They are calling it "high velocity severe force."



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  11. #129
    Sounds like a baseball bat.
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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    News says Rand was tackled from behind, causing the injury. But this whole thing stinks....

    Rand and co. downplayed the injury...

    Only misdemeanor charge for the perp...

    Guy is a fellow doctor in his neighborhood at his house...

    I don't think we are getting the whole story here. My mind immediately went to "guys only do this when women or money are involved".... hope there's no funny business here.

    You thinking Rand may be doinking the perps wife?
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  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    You thinking Rand may be doinking the perps wife?
    I'm saying I have no idea, but it sounds fishy to me. Some are painting this as a 'Bernie supporting socialist attacked Rand Paul over his stance on healthcare' etc etc. But if so, why did Rand downplay the incident and his injuries?

    I'd be lying if I said the thought didn't cross my mind that there is more here than what's being reported...
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  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    You thinking Rand may be doinking the perps wife?
    No, if anything his son nailed the perps daughter but there is no evidence of that beyond them being fb friends.
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  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    They are calling it "high velocity severe force."
    Tackled from behind. No weapon used.
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  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    You thinking Rand may be doinking the perps wife?
    Let's not start pushing ugly unfounded rumors. Next you know we'll have people here posting pics of various politicians with bruises on their face next to randals' and saying it was an initiation into some satanic cult.

  17. #135
    5 broken ribs is a misdemeanor?
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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  18. #136
    Trump derangement syndrome.
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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    No, if anything his son nailed the perps daughter but there is no evidence of that beyond them being fb friends.
    Maybe the son is doinking the neighbor's daughter and Rand is doinking the neighbor's wife and Rand's dog is doinking the neighbor's dog...

    Whatever the case, I'm glad to hear Rand is going to be ok. If the guy had hit Rand's head as hard as he hit is rib cage we would be in mourning now. Rand needs to be armed for sure and maybe he was. Sounds like the guy sneaked up from behind and pounced.
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  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
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  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    5 broken ribs is a misdemeanor?

    That's what I'd like to know.

    Smells like Class-A felony to me.
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  23. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    That's what I'd like to know.

    Smells like Class-A felony to me.
    Unprovoked, major injuries, with little doubt of it being a politically motivated attack on a US Senator. Seems like it should be a small fine. Surely if some other Senator were attacked like this it would be handled exactly the same way. /s
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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    An example of right thinking.
    Which wont do you much help and might actual end up worse if you get attacked from behind while wearing earplugs. just saying...

  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Lordy help me I clicked on the comments. Can we please write off the Left and just let the Right kick the $#@! out of them? Of all the Republican senators in D.C. they are celebrating and mocking Rand.
    WaPo is the major media home of Trotskyites (neoconservatives), Marxists, Leninists and Stalinists. Their celebration of political violence is nothing new.

    Jim Bullington, a former member of the city commission, knows both men. He said Sunday that Boucher is divorced and lives alone. Bullington described Boucher as a socialist.
    That's all they care about. He's one of them.
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  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    WaPo is the major media home of Trotskyites (neoconservatives), Marxists, Leninists and Stalinists. Their celebration of political violence is nothing new.



    That's all they care about. He's one of them.
    Have you read the comments at Faux? SMDH...

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/04...ucky-home.html
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  27. #144
    It seems like commenters think there is more to the story. In this case it looks like motive is going to be the key.
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  29. #145
    This was obviously a far-left assassination attempt against Rand.

    It was either a lone wolf inspired by antifa or a Koch-funded conspiracy.

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    If the guy had hit Rand's head as hard as he hit is rib cage we would be in mourning now.
    I morbidly thought the same thing. It seems pretty obvious the guy wasn't going for homicide.
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  31. #147
    According to the neighbor, Senator Paul and Boucher have had ongoing problems. Senator Paul and Boucher share a corner adjacent to their homes.
    "share"?

    Well there's yer problem.

    Sheesh, prayers for some healing and peace.
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  32. #148
    Not to engage in hypothesizing without all of the facts, but if this guy invented a heat pad for pain therapy, you could imagine that he would like his product to be paid for in full by the government or health insurance (like those scooters). In other words, he could have a crony socialist enrichment motive at play, and Rand would be a hindrance to his evil plot.
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  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    According to Google, he's a DO in Bowling Green?
    Can you please tell me what a "DO" is ? Googling these two letters including "public function" etc. etc. doesn't yield much useful.

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  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    I morbidly thought the same thing. It seems pretty obvious the guy wasn't going for homicide.
    Are you trying to make excuses for this scumbag?
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