Amash denounces armed protests in Michigan

[Krugminator2]

The one who uses governmental power to violate the Constitution.
You can advocate for amending the Constitution if you like but you may not break it.

Like 90% of your posts related to policy violate the Constitution. You would be the first person on the chopping block in that guy's world.

[jkob]

Some crazy arguments I never thought I'd hear here, anybody saying that not vaccinating is akin to murder and consistent with libertarianism and the NAP I'd have to ask if not providing free food, housing, and healthcare is also akin to murder?

[Swordsmyth]

Like 90% of your posts related to policy violate the Constitution. You would be the first person on the chopping block in that guy's world.

LOL

The few times I advocate something not in line with the Constitution I am usually advocating for it to be changed, the rest I am talking about how to deal with a world in which the Constitution was shredded many generations ago in order to return to a world where it is enforced, once we regain the power to enforce it we will no longer need to play by the same rules as our enemies and I would not do anything in violation of the Constitution.

But do keep advocating for a government with unlimited power, we want everyone here to see you for what you are.

[Krugminator2]

LOL

The few times I advocate something not in line with the Constitution I am usually advocating for it to be changed, the rest I am talking about how to deal with a world in which the Constitution was shredded many generations ago in order to return to a world where it is enforced, once we regain the power to enforce it we will no longer need to play by the same rules as our enemies and I would not do anything in violation of the Constitution.

But do keep advocating for a government with unlimited power, we want everyone here to see you for what you are.

I support "unlimited" government in the context of protecting individual rights within a constitutional framework. What that means can't always be defined as in the examples I gave like the environment, pandemic, instances like banking or nuclear weapons where risks are unbounded so the courts will decide the nuances

You support unlimited government in order to further your national socialist views. Whether that is limiting the speech of corporations like Twitter, Google and Facebook because they have different political views. Restricting immigration to push wages up. Tariffs to favor industries. Using government to persecute gays with sodomy laws.

[devil21]

Some crazy arguments I never thought I'd hear here, anybody saying that not vaccinating is akin to murder and consistent with libertarianism and the NAP I'd have to ask if not providing free food, housing, and healthcare is also akin to murder?

It's very shilly up in here these days. Trillions of Fed funny bucks buys a lot of shill operations. Use discernment.

[Swordsmyth]

I support "unlimited" government in the context of protecting individual rights within a constitutional framework. What that means can't always be defined as in the examples I gave like the environment, pandemic, instances like banking or nuclear weapons where risks are unbounded so the courts will decide the nuances

You support unlimited government in order to further your national socialist views. Whether that is limiting the speech of corporations like Twitter, Google and Facebook because they have different political views. Restricting immigration to push wages up. Tariffs to favor industries. Using government to persecute gays with sodomy laws.

I congratulate you on your ability to twist the truth.
But I will not tolerate outright lies, I have never supported government prosecution of perverts and you are a liar.

You support unlimited government as long as that government promises it is doing whatever it wants in the name of the general welfare, which is what every tyrant in history has claimed.

I support holding corporations accountable for fraud and false advertising so that they can't be used by the government that subsidizes them and in some cases created them to destroy free speech.
I support keeping an unlimited number of communists from invading so that we can retain our liberty and I support canceling out foreign government intervention so that our economy is not destroyed by those who would conquer us and/or turn our populace to support communism out of desperation.

[Krugminator2]

I congratulate you on your ability to twist the ]truth.
But I will not tolerate outright lies, I have never supported government prosecution of perverts and you are a liar.

You said laws against sodomy were constitutional. They aren't. They are tyrannical. And yes you are a bigot.

You support unlimited government as long as that government promises it is doing whatever it wants in the name of the general welfare, which is what every tyrant in history has claimed.

Nope. I don't. Never have. And you will find zero instances of me making such claims. The phrase general welfare is not something I believe in. I support protecting individual rights.

I support holding corporations accountable for fraud and false advertising so that they can't be used by the government that subsidizes them and in some cases created them to destroy free speech.
I support keeping an unlimited number of communists from invading so that we can retain our liberty and I support canceling out foreign government intervention so that our economy is not destroyed by those who would conquer us and/or turn our populace to support communism out of desperation.

This is completely tyrannical nonsense. No half measure I have ever supported as a lesser evil is 1/1 millionth as anti-liberty as this paragraph.

[Swordsmyth]

You said laws against sodomy were constitutional. They aren't. They are tyrannical. And yes you are a bigot.

That is a lie, liar.

Nope. I don't. Never have. And you will find zero instances of me making such claims. The phrase general welfare is not something I believe in. I support protecting individual rights.

Your definition of individual rights is indistinguishable from general welfare and would be used just as tyrannically.

This is completely tyrannical nonsense. No half measure I have ever supported as a lesser evil is 1/1 millionth as anti-liberty as this paragraph.

[Krugminator2]

That is a lie, liar.

You did. 100% certain

Your definition of individual rights is indistinguishable from general welfare and would be used just as tyrannically.

Completely different. Not at all the same actually. My definition of individual rights is the standard libertarian definition. You should be able to do whatever you want as long as you don't harm other people.

What is amazing is you do support violating individual rights on a mass scale in order to promote your view of general welfare. Restricting a business from purchasing goods from China is a massive rights violation. You have a willing buyer and a willing seller you are all too happy to get between.

[Swordsmyth]

You did. 100% certain



Completely different. Not at all the same actually. My definition of individual rights is the standard libertarian definition. You should be able to do whatever you want as long as you don't harm other people.

What is amazing is you do support violating individual rights on a mass scale in order to promote your view of general welfare. Restricting a business from purchasing goods from China is a massive rights violation. You have a willing buyer and a willing seller you are all too happy to get between.

Your lies are boring.
Countering government intervention in the marketplace is not a rights violation, the foreign government intervention is a rights violation.
And I never supported sodomy laws.

Your interpretation of individual rights is not standard at all and is a mockery of individual rights.

[dannno]

It's very shilly up in here these days. Trillions of Fed funny bucks buys a lot of shill operations. Use discernment.

Ya, there are actually people here complaining about Trump taking almost $1 billion annually away from the WHO. It's getting pretty bad around here.

[pcosmar]

Ya, there are actually people here complaining about Trump taking almost $1 billion annually away from the WHO. It's getting pretty bad around here.

More concerned with what he is Borrowing from China to Pay ($1200) bribes with.

[dannno]

More concerned with what he is Borrowing from China to Pay ($1200) bribes with.

That is a side debate, the states shut down the economies and it may be beneficial in the longterm to take some longterm pain that will occur over time in order to smooth things over for the citizens who were affected by this in the shortrun. Clearly it could have been done better, clearly they inflated it far more than they had to, but that was a function of the legislature, Trump didn't write the bill.. but it could be argued something should have been done in order to counteract the state government's shutdowns. We will see how it works out.

I am actually more concerned about defunding the WHO, because they are the ones who are working with the groups who are responsible for all of this. I would rather take the money out of the hands of the tyrants like the WHO than take the money out of the hands of the people.

[CCTelander]

Ya, there are actually people here complaining about Trump taking almost $1 billion annually away from the WHO. It's getting pretty bad around here.

That's a bald-faced lie. Not one single person has done so. What they HAVE complained about is that Trump is reinstituting funding of WHO at any level. Please leave your bull$#@! spin out of it.

[dannno]

That's a bald-faced lie. Not one single person has done so. What they HAVE complained about is that Trump is reinstituting funding of WHO at any level. Please leave your bull$#@! spin out of it.

Bull $#@!ing $#@!!!!

Go look at the thread on the topic and look at the responses by the anti-Trumpers. They are acting as if the Trump supporters were "wrong", he completely backtracked and Trump did nothing positive.

[CCTelander]

Bull $#@!ing $#@!!!!

Go look at the thread on the topic and look at the responses by the anti-Trumpers. They are acting as if the Trump supporters were "wrong", he completely backtracked and Trump did nothing positive.

Bull$#@!. They simply refused to buy into your positive spin on the situation so you're attempting, deceitfully, to paint them in the worst light possible. Stop. Or don't. I really don't give a $#@!. It's not like anyone takes you seriously where Trump is concerned anyway. Carry on.

[dannno]

Bull$#@!. They simply refused to buy into your positive spin on the situation so you're attempting, deceitfully, to paint them in the worst light possible. Stop. Or don't. I really don't give a $#@!. It's not like anyone takes you seriously where Trump is concerned anyway. Carry on.

WRONG

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Funding-to-WHO

[CCTelander]

WRONG

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Funding-to-WHO

Not wrong at all. But go ahead and continue your little tantrum. I'm through trying to reason with the unreasonable.

[TheCount]

WRONG

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Funding-to-WHO

It's when you have no quotes, no direct links, etc. that it's obvious that you are completely full of $#@!.

C'mon, man. Stop being lazy. At least link to a 10 hour Molyneux video on chaturbate or something. Nobody watches that $#@! anyway, you can just hide behind it and claim victory like always.

[dannno]

You do know other people can click on the link and see you are both completely full of $#@!, right?

I'm not sure if you are aware of how internet browsers work.

[CCTelander]

You do know other people can click on the link and see you are both completely full of $#@!, right?

I'm not sure if you are aware of how internet browsers work.

You spin this $#@! so much you can no longer even recognize when you're doing it. Both sad and pathetic.

[pcosmar]

Both sad and pathetic.

Was my thought.

[Swordsmyth]

You do know other people can click on the link and see you are both completely full of $#@!, right?

I'm not sure if you are aware of how internet browsers work.

The trolls here long ago adopted bald faced lies as a tactic of last resort.

[acptulsa]

The trolls here long ago adopted bald faced lies as a tactic of last resort.

Yes, we know you did.

Isn't it bad enough you do what you do? Do we need you narrating like you think this is a movie?

[bv3]

Yes, we know you did.

Isn't it bad enough you do what you do? Do we need you narrating like you think this is a movie?

when he's right, he's right.

[acptulsa]

when he's right, he's right.

Well, he certainly should remember. And even though he's just talking about himself, it's a nice change to see him talking about someone besides Trump.

[Slave Mentality]

I am loving how these two die hard lovers of the Orange Light of Liberty have joined forces to share in there satanic pedo cabal battles here on RPFs. Quoting each other’s insanity to attempt to reinforce it.

It’s like we have our own flat earthers!

[bv3]

Well, he certainly should remember. And even though he's just talking about himself, it's a nice change to see him talking about someone besides Trump.

indeed. Interesting, too, how that 2016 join date goes on and on about the ingenuity of long time members.

[CCTelander]

indeed. Interesting, too, how that 2016 join date goes on and on about the ingenuity of long time members.

He's been engaged in an ongoing, systemaic crusade to discredit and alienate long term, well respected members here for years. Basically anyone who fails to show what Swordy deems to be the proper level of obsequiousness toward Trump, or who disagrees with him (Swordy) on immigration or protectionist tariffs. He and a few others like him have done a great deal to destroy what unity we once had around here and drive morale down into the toilet.

At least, that's what it's appeared like to me and quite a few others.

[Ender]

He's been engaged in an ongoing, systemaic crusade to discredit and alienate long term, well respected members here for years. Basically anyone who fails to show what Swordy deems to be the proper level of obsequiousness toward Trump, or who disagrees with him (Swordy) on immigration or protectionist tariffs. He and a few others like him have done a great deal to destroy what unity we once had around here and drive morale down into the toilet.

At least, that's what it's appeared like to me and quite a few others.

I'm definitely one of those others.