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"We don' need no stinkin' facts!"
YES. You do.
Reading everything on both sides is the only way to make any kind of intelligent decisions. Blowing away the messenger is NOT smart.
Funny, as I was reading the OP I bet myself on how fast a Trumpet would blow away the message because of the messenger. And lo- Post #2.
@parocks
I agree with this and like Putin as well- I don't think he should be invested in the US or have any say on American foreign policy- but I like him more than most US politicians.parocks:
I like Putin. He immediately shot directly at ISIS. Instead of "accidentally" missing ISIS and killing innocent Syrians.
Israel and the US funded ISIS, gave them guns, trained them.
If Trump likes Putin, I have a more favorable view of Trump.
Russia isn't the bad guy. They got rid of the Communism that was imposed from away. Israel and the US are the bad guy. Maybe Trump can drop our ally Israel and make friends with all the other countries in the Middle East. If there's some way the bankers can lose in this process, great.
Rothschild was related to Karl Marx. Israel was given to Rothschild in the Balfour Declaration. Rothschild funded Soros.
Last edited by Ender; 07-25-2016 at 10:20 AM.
There is no spoon.
I don't trust you to argue in good faith but I will reply.
It is a lie that you have to put time into every argument. Sometimes you just have to spot the bull$#@!.
I am all for facts and reasoned argument. RPF does not have the moderation or the will to enforce reasoned debate. RPF is good blend of people I don't actually have a solution on how to stop us all from being shlt slinging monkeys. But what RPF does is important it trains people who are smart over time how to argue better and when to know not o engage.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
The Putin & Trump alliance is just the latest Commie lie coming from the Commie propaganda machine that passes for the media in America.
It's intended to appeal to fuggin' idiots.
Don't be one of them.
It almost reads like a cheesy spy novel. I think the support for Putin is a theory that it prevents WW 3. Looks more like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, imo.
The gist I'm getting is Trump is the spy in the novel who becomes a traitor selling America to Russian interests to pay off personal debt to Russia. Russia needs to interfere with America's present alliances to prevent further American expansion. Enter the Democrat party who has been complaining about NATO, and standing up for our commitments to certain other nations. And if we don't maintain the status quo, then the nation is in the hot seat and suffers consequences from those it currently has alliances.
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota
Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
This is pretty relevant, and from his own family."Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota
Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota
Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota
Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota
Go Forward With Courage
When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
Then act with courage.
Ponca Chief White Eagle
Last edited by CaptUSA; 07-25-2016 at 11:00 AM.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
It's revealing how the level of butthurt goes up among many members of this forum every time Hillary lands on hard times.
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I see shirtless horseback riding in their future, Trump in the bitch seat.
I can actually "argue in good faith". I've been called so many names lately for not supporting Trump that I am sometimes a little hesitant.
My philosophy is to Question Everything. That means everything: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. whether it supports my present belief or not. I find that when I do this, I get a much clearer perspective, than if I don't. And, I'm talking about ME not you- just clarifying how I operate.
Personally, I like Putin. I think he's shown much more strength of character than many of the US politicians- especially since we were over the coup in the Ukraine and then blamed Russia for it.
That said, I don't think our elections should be funded by foreign countries. I think it should definitely be researched to see if Trump is being funded by Russian elites, as this does put him in a compromising position, if true.
So- my stance on this is to question it and do some research and see what the conclusions are that may turn up.
There is no spoon.
You would have to believe the mainstream media narrative that the cold war is over and that all of our middle eastern policy has been anti terror, not anti Russia. If you subscribe to the Ron Paul liberty report then you are probably as confused as most people are that try to understand Trumps foreign policy. It only makes sense to people who pay attention to the MSM narrative.
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