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  1. #31
    I think it's a sign the dems are going to lose the majority in a few weeks. I remember Obama trying to provoke Russia with that training exercise in eastern Europe in Dec 2016 before he handed the keys over to Trump. Create some $hit so the donors' interests are still maintained.

    (and of course, still not having cleaned out all the neocons, McConnell will be like, 'well, we have to do what we have to do.' )
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    Summary: It makes no sense for Russia to blow it up, they could have shut it off themselves. False flag against US? Possible, but unlikely. It takes away Russia's major bargaining chip with the west in the war in Ukraine.

    New gas line from Norway to Europe opened on the same day.
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  6. #34
    US is stealing Syrian oil and blowing up Northern European pipelines because US is under complete control of the One World Luciferian elites.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    While people blame America or Putin, it occurs to me that it could be European eco-terrorists. Does anyone know where Greta Thunberg has been the last few days?
    She's currently brooding beneath the Misty Mountains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    She's currently brooding beneath the Misty Mountains.
    Or the Mountains of Shadow. Could be either.

  9. #37
    So I guess that when the Norway pipeline also suffers a similar fate, they will all be "ok" with that too....lol
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  10. #38
    Sabotage? Both NordStream Pipelines Blown Up!
    It appears as if some kind of explosion blew three huge holes in the NordStream I and II pipelines near Danish waters. Massive leaks are showing up on the surface of the Baltic Sea. Whodunnit? Would Washington blow up Russia's pipeline? Germany? Russia? Also today, the Democrats have become the party of war. Finally: Another $12 billion for Ukraine snuck into "must-pass" spending bill. [27 September 2022]
    https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/sabota...elines-blown:4



    Who Blew Up The Pipeline? The Plot Thickens!
    Former Polish Defense Minister Radek Sikorski (husband of US neocon Anne Applebaum) publicly thanked the US government for blowing up NordStream I and II on Twitter yesterday, a move that made even his own fellow countrymen feel awkward. The seeming terrorist attack was less a move against Russia than against Germany. So who did it? Why? Also today, Sen. McConnell rolls over on even more billions to Ukraine. And...is Elon turning his eyes toward Rumble? [28 September 2022]
    https://rumble.com/v1lvayu-who-blew-...jcwo5&mc=2sdbb

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    US is stealing Syrian oil and blowing up Northern European pipelines because US is under complete control of the One World Luciferian elites.
    The US is Globohomo’s attack dog.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Slave Mentality View Post
    The US is Globohomo’s attack dog.
    I am embarassed to be an American.

    This is too much.
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    BALTOPS 22 Multinational Exercise Kicks Off In The Baltic Sea
    Fourteen NATO allies, two NATO partner nations, over 45 ships, more than 75 aircraft, and approximately 7,000 personnel kick off Baltic Operations (BALTOPS 22) from Stockholm on 05 June 2022.
    Naval News Staff 06 Jun 2022

    U.S. Navy press release

    This premier maritime-focused annual exercise in the Baltic Region takes place June 5-17 and provides a unique training opportunity to strengthen combined response capabilities critical to preserving freedom of navigation and security in the Baltic Sea. This is the 51st iteration of the exercise series that began in 1972.
    ...
    Exercise scenarios include amphibious operations, gunnery, anti-submarine, air defense, mine clearance operations, explosive ordnance disposal, unmanned underwater vehicles, and medical response.
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    More: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news...he-baltic-sea/
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post


    Summary: It makes no sense for Russia to blow it up, they could have shut it off themselves. False flag against US? Possible, but unlikely. It takes away Russia's major bargaining chip with the west in the war in Ukraine.

    New gas line from Norway to Europe opened on the same day.
    Tim makes a good point about one of the ramifications of this. When Germany and other nations are freezing in the winter, the citizens won't be able to protest to call for peace with Russia to turn Russian gas back on. That option has been taken away.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    ...
    Anne Applebaum

    Anne Applebaum is a program director at the London-based Legatum Institute and a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist for the Washington Post and Slate.com. Sometimes characterized as a neoconservative because of her on-again-off-again support for militarist U.S. foreign policies, including the invasion of Iraq, Applebaum formerly worked as an adjunct fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). Applebaum has been a resident of Poland and is married to Radoslaw Sikorski, a fierce anti-communist Polish politician whose experience includes working as a director of AEI’s New Atlantic Initiative.[1]

    Applebaum has been at the Legatum Institute since mid-2011, where she directs its political studies program. In announcing her appointment, Jeffrey Gedmin, CEO of Legatum and a founding signatory of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century, said in a press release: “Anne is an exceptionally gifted thinker and writer. Her eloquence, range and independence have made her one of the most interesting and influential public policy intellectuals of her generation.”[2]
    ...
    Applebaum’s track record of advocating hawkish policies has prompted critical rhetoric from some observers. Jordan Smith, in a 2010 Salon article, included her in his list of “liberal hawks,”[12] and in 2007 Matt Barganier of antiwar.com said she was “as neocon in her foreign policy as anyone at the Weekly Standard.”[13]
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    More: https://militarist-monitor.org/profile/anne-applebaum/
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  18. #45
    Seems like the US Regime is AT WAR WITH ALL OF EUROPE.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Seems like the US Regime is AT WAR WITH ALL OF EUROPE.
    Imagine to be this foolish and stupid to be believing the US and the state dep by claiming that the US wasn't behind the north stream sabotage while they still blame Russia for blowing up their own pipeline which provides 47 to 50% of Europe's gas supplies?

  20. #47
    Believe US LNG ships make $150 million to EU each trip

    Follow the $$, always

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Seems like the US Regime is AT WAR WITH ALL OF EUROPE.
    They're at war with pretty much all of us at this point...
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    ''There were four million people in the American Colonies and we had Jefferson and Franklin. Now we have over 300 million and the two top guys are Trump and Biden. What can you draw from this? Darwin was wrong.'' ~ Mort Sahl

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    This gas line being blown up is to be expected as a result of war in Ukraine, and could literally be a dozen different groups with motives, including China.

    It is why having long extended supply chains and pipelines going from or through the territories of a country's historical enemies was an obvious problem the moment it was conceived.
    Last edited by SpiritOf1776_J4; 09-28-2022 at 08:11 PM.

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    BOOMING business for US LNG community (get it)

    According to Mřrkedal, “Charterers … have every motivation to pay top dollar for vessel hires. Based on last week’s cargo prices, traders who can buy U.S. natural gas and ship it to Europe stand to profit [by] $133 million for just one cargo, which is 74% of the value of a five-year-old TFDE carrier.”

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  29. #55
    Can't wait to see what kind of proof the US government will use to try and convince people they weren't behind it.
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  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    BOOMING business for US LNG community (get it)

    According to Mřrkedal, “Charterers … have every motivation to pay top dollar for vessel hires. Based on last week’s cargo prices, traders who can buy U.S. natural gas and ship it to Europe stand to profit [by] $133 million for just one cargo, which is 74% of the value of a five-year-old TFDE carrier.”
    Well it might be a booming businesses for a little while not forever.. The LNG isnt even cheap as the Russian one.



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Can't wait to see what kind of proof the US government will use to try and convince people they weren't behind it.
    The American gov is already creating new fairy tales how Iran is assisting AQ and helping AQ..
    Eventually they will find a lie big enough they will believe it.

  33. #58
    Democrats Did this..

    if not,,they would be screaming over Green House Gasses.

    silent Fart,,Dems did it.
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  34. #59
    @AF,,
    Few have any understanding of Ron Paul's suggestion of "Marque and Reprisal".
    it confused many,,but I had read it in a Law Library,,before internet.

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    know the risk.

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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Damn that Putin! Playing 36d chess again!


    Putin is a mad man playing 36D chess.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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