Cops Shoot White Guy in Fresno; Nobody Pays Attention

[JustinTime]

@cajuncocoa supports ALL LIVES MATTER. Why don't we all start there and gain strength instead of bickering and letting TPTB increase their agenda.

Are you and Cajuncocoa aware that a lot of Black Lives Matter people see "All lives Matter" as an affront to their movement because, they say, its redundant since white lives automatically matter, owing to our privilege and magical white powers.

So how do we get them to realize this isnt the case? By pointing out what the OP has pointed out, that whites are killed by police and these deaths get far less attention than black people killed under similar circumstances.

This is really so goddamn frustrating, I dont know WTF you want white people to do. We cant expand BLM to include us, we cant even point out when whites are killed by police without you accusing us of "bickering".

[cajuncocoa]

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[pcosmar]

I'm going to stop you right here. No, I'm not one of those who wants a White Lives Matter movement. I wanted to call attention to police abuse in general BEFORE this got turned into a racial thing. All I'm saying is that the majority of white people will side with law enforcement in the majority of police incidents, no matter the skin color of the shooting victim.

Sad ,, But we have been on this same page,, even before this one..

I have seen the anger all across the country and watched it build. It has been well misdirected.

No one wants to Face the Issue of the Police State.
Both Parties want it. and feed it.

It will get worse.

Violence always comes from Government. This will escalate. (ever known government to deescalate anything)

Hold on.

[JustinTime]

I'm going to stop you right here. No, I'm not one of those who wants a White Lives Matter movement. I wanted to call attention to police abuse in general BEFORE this got turned into a racial thing. All I'm saying is that the majority of white people will side with law enforcement in the majority of police incidents, no matter the skin color of the shooting victim.

So whats the problem with this thread (in its original context, before it turned into a discussion of IQ scores)? Why not discuss whites killed by police, sounds like thats the group who needs to be made aware the most.

You don't need to get BLM to realize anything. The next time (tonight? tomorrow?) a white person becomes a victim, how about we organize ourselves and not expect BLM to realize anything on our behalf?

So you want white people to protest police murders of whites, without black people... this is "White Lives Matter". You said you don't want that.

Don't you see, the racial edge put on this has to be taken off, we have to point out all the "blue on white" killings and stop dividing people up by race. Or just accept a whites only movement. Either is okay by me, but I wish you would stop talking out of both sides of your mouth.

[cajuncocoa]

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[JustinTime]

If Boobus hadn't been so cop-happy BEFORE Black Lives Matter was a "thing" we wouldn't be calling any of this "White Lives Mattter" or "All Lives Matter"... I don't know what we'd be calling it, but it would be a general call for an END TO POLICE ABUSE. No need to mention any race at all. Why are you having trouble seeing what I'm saying? It's too late for any of this now. It IS a racial thing now. The window of opportunity of any other victims besides Blacks was lost because everyone but Blacks sat on their hands. Worse than that...many sided with law enforcement, no questions asked.

Did everyone but blacks sit on their hands, or did blacks create an overtly racial response that stupidly excluded everyone else, minimized its numbers and saw potential allies as enemies? Or did the media insert the racial narrative?

However it happened, if we could cut the racial bullschitt now and come together we could cause a real change. If we continue the way you want it, nothing happens, and possibly, gets even worse.

Im really wondering if a bonafide race war is possible, fans flamed by the elites in government and media, and predictably ending with them seizing more power.

[phill4paul]

Did everyone but blacks sit on their hands, or did blacks create an overtly racial response that stupidly excluded everyone else, minimized its numbers and saw potential allies as enemies? Or did the media insert the racial narrative?

However it happened, if we could cut the racial bullschitt now and come together we could cause a real change. If we continue the way you want it, nothing happens, and possibly, gets even worse.

Im really wondering if a bonafide race war is possible, fans flamed by the elites in government and media, and predictably ending with them seizing more power.

Yes. Everyone that is White sat on their hands. There's your answer. Have you ever seen Whites protest police killings? Ever?

[cajuncocoa]

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[Ender]

Are you and Cajuncocoa aware that a lot of Black Lives Matter people see "All lives Matter" as an affront to their movement because, they say, its redundant since white lives automatically matter, owing to our privilege and magical white powers.

So how do we get them to realize this isnt the case? By pointing out what the OP has pointed out, that whites are killed by police and these deaths get far less attention than black people killed under similar circumstances.

This is really so goddamn frustrating, I dont know WTF you want white people to do. We cant expand BLM to include us, we cant even point out when whites are killed by police without you accusing us of "bickering".

I don't want "white" people to do anything- I want PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING!

Stand together and bring Liberty back!

[RandallFan]

[Danke]

Yes. Everyone that is White sat on their hands. There's your answer. Have you ever seen Whites protest police killings? Ever?

[Danke]

[Danke]

[Mr.NoSmile]

Well, this is certainly a thread.

[cajuncocoa]

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[MelissaWV]

I wonder if some folks realize that the assumptions about black men are pretty similar to the "white right-wing extremist" assumptions made about anyone pale with an interest in guns and mistrust of cops/Government...

[phill4paul]

Such quaint gatherings. Have you seen 2k+ at any of these? Did cops gas anyone? Was riot gear issued?

[cajuncocoa]

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[JustinTime]

I don't want "white" people to do anything- I want PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING!

I hate it when people pluck messages out of context and give an obtuse response.

Id love to see a non-racial movement against police brutality too, but read over the thread, I'm not the one arguing these incidents should be viewed through a racial lens.

[cajuncocoa]

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[Danke]

Such quaint gatherings. Have you seen 2k+ at any of these? Did cops gas anyone? Was riot gear issued?

proven wrong from just few examples, change the argument.

[cajuncocoa]

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[Ender]

I hate it when people pluck messages out of context and give an obtuse response.

Id love to see a non-racial movement against police brutality too, but read over the thread, I'm not the one arguing these incidents should be viewed through a racial lens.

I'm not either-

I said let's stand together as PEOPLE not black, white, red, brown, etc.

[phill4paul]

proven wrong from just few examples, change the argument.

Proven wrong on what? Numbers? Gassing? Riot gear. In succession I believe photos are....Oregon/BLM, Bikers/Waco, Weaver? Did windows ever get broken for Lavoy Finicum?

[AuH20]

I hate it when people pluck messages out of context and give an obtuse response.

Id love to see a non-racial movement against police brutality too, but read over the thread, I'm not the one arguing these incidents should be viewed through a racial lens.

Good luck with that. BLM supports the federalization of police.

[phill4paul]

I'm not either-

I said let's stand together as PEOPLE not black, white, red, brown, etc.

NOBODY wants to hear that $#@!, man. EVERYONE else wants to collectivize. Which is understood, by me, everywhere else in this world. But, $#@!, the $#@! that has infected this site is just killing me.

GO TRUMP!

[Ender]

NOBODY wants to hear that $#@!, man. EVERYONE else wants to collectivize. Which is understood, by me, everywhere else in this world. But, $#@!, the $#@! that has infected this site is just killing me.

GO TRUMP!

Indeed- tis crazy making.