The Cult Of Transgender

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Is that why Rome fell? lol

Rome was HUGELY decadent when it was collapsing and there was a lot of playing with gender identity in those days. It is difficult to know how much of this was from transgenderism, transvestitism or intersex and castrated priesthoods that existed at the time.

Regardless, decadence is an effect of social decay, not usually a cause, though ti does of course become a memetic feedback loop.

[PierzStyx]

I don't know about all schools, but the few I have been in have just been tripping over themselves to do what they can to not be sued. Whether the administrators and teachers agree with the idea, they have to support it or lose their jobs. And if they get fired for not supporting the idea they get labeled as "transphobic" and it is harder to find work.

Which really demonstrates the subtle evil of government education. The government doesn't even have to pass a law. Just threaten your job and your future if you refuse to comply.

[Tywysog Cymru]

Rome was HUGELY decadent when it was collapsing and there was a lot of playing with gender identity in those days. It is difficult to know how much of this was from transgenderism, transvestitism or intersex and castrated priesthoods that existed at the time.

Regardless, decadence is an effect of social decay, not usually a cause, though ti does of course become a memetic feedback loop.

Wasn't there a later emperor (Ellagabulus I think) who considered himself to be a woman?

[farreri]

Rome was HUGELY decadent when it was collapsing and there was a lot of playing with gender identity in those days. It is difficult to know how much of this was from transgenderism, transvestitism or intersex and castrated priesthoods that existed at the time.

Regardless, decadence is an effect of social decay, not usually a cause, though ti does of course become a memetic feedback loop.

So it was decadency and not all the lead they put in their water systems that caused Rome to fall. OK.

[Petar]

So it was decadency and not all the lead they put in their water systems that caused Rome to fall. OK.

Decadence = inability to objectively observe/judge reality.

No civilization can survive without this ability for very long.

[NotAnIllegalImmigrant]

So it was decadency and not all the lead they put in their water systems that caused Rome to fall. OK.

I tend to favor the theory that it was all that Brazilian tranny porn they were downloading that finally did them in.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Wasn't there a later emperor (Ellagabulus I think) who considered himself to be a woman?

Yeah, Elagabalus. Whether he was actually trans or that's just a modern reading of it is unclear.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

So it was decadency and not all the lead they put in their water systems that caused Rome to fall. OK.

You have trouble reading, evidently:

Regardless, decadence is an effect of social decay, not usually a cause, though ti does of course become a memetic feedback loop.

Besides, I've never seen any actual evidence that lead poisoning was a causal factor in Rome's fall.

[r3volution 3.0]

Adults want to mutilate themselves? Who cares, their problem.

Children want to mutilate themselves? Any custodian who allows it should be prosecuted for child abuse.

decadence is an effect of social decay, not usually a cause

Indeed, which is why I don't find these issues very important in the grand scheme of things.

P.S. Incidentally, I'd attribute Rome's fall to economic decline, brought about by war and interventionist economic policies, which were in turn products of (a) the sheer size of the empire and (b) the fact that the Roman monarchy never developed a clear succession law, for whatever reason.

[Mach]

The Cult Of Transgender

Yes, a cultural war.... they keep trying to influence every generation at an even younger age because they know that the younger the person, the easier it is to pattern their behavior.

A cult.

[Working Poor]

I think trans gender people are either mentally or, spiritually ill.

[PaulConventionWV]

Nearly everyone can look back in their past at fads and laugh or be embarrassed. "You actually wore that?!" "You did that to your hair on purpose?"

There are going to be a lot of embarrassed kids 10-20 years from now after this fad is over.

I dunno, man, it's easy to be nonchalant about this stuff if you just dismiss it like that, but I don't think this is an apt comparison, seeing that there's basically a culture war being fought over it. It's not really the same as a fashion fad.

[PaulConventionWV]

What it were taught in school that considering yourself as the opposite sex that you were born as is ridiculous and moronic instead of celebrating it? Would you be ok with letting them live how they want?

I hope you pay your interpreter well.

[Origanalist]

I hope you pay your interpreter well.

Why? Are you related somehow?

[Ender]

I don't know about all schools, but the few I have been in have just been tripping over themselves to do what they can to not be sued. Whether the administrators and teachers agree with the idea, they have to support it or lose their jobs. And if they get fired for not supporting the idea they get labeled as "transphobic" and it is harder to find work.

Which really demonstrates the subtle evil of government education. The government doesn't even have to pass a law. Just threaten your job and your future if you refuse to comply.

Yep.

Time for people to pull out of gov schools.

Also- my sister was a complete tomboy as a kid. She was the best sports player around and was usually the 1st chosen for any boy/girl teams. All her best friends were guys and she was usually braver and tougher than most of them. Now she's happily married with a bunch of kiddies and is a beautiful woman.

I think in today's world, in the public system, TPTB would have tried to talk her into being a man, instead of letting her be who she was and grow naturally into womanhood.

[PaulConventionWV]

Why? Are you related somehow?

I dunno. What's his/her name?

[Origanalist]

I dunno. What's his/her name?

DickConventionWV

[John F Kennedy III]

Cutting something off a young, not fully matured person should be medical malpractice.

Absolutely. The doctors and parents should be put in prison.

[John F Kennedy III]

DickConventionWV

I'm pretty sure you just won the internet.

[PaulConventionWV]

DickConventionWV

Oh I didn't know you had a comedian in your hire as well. Well done, sir.

[PaulConventionWV]

I'm pretty sure you just won the internet.

Is that the standard these days? Jeez. Glad I have a life.

[Origanalist]

Oh I didn't know you had a comedian in your hire as well. Well done, sir.

Some of us don't need one. As sense of humor is a good thing, you should try it some time.

[PierzStyx]

Yep.

Time for people to pull out of gov schools.

Also- my sister was a complete tomboy as a kid. She was the best sports player around and was usually the 1st chosen for any boy/girl teams. All her best friends were guys and she was usually braver and tougher than most of them. Now she's happily married with a bunch of kiddies and is a beautiful woman.

I think in today's world, in the public system, TPTB would have tried to talk her into being a man, instead of letting her be who she was and grow naturally into womanhood.

And the irony of that is it is sexist. "Oh, you act like a 'boy' so you must be trans." It is so stupid.

[Nirvikalpa]

Only on RPF can I walk into two threads and see "keep a patient and doctor relationship out of the government's hands" in one, and "doctors who perform surgery on consenting patients should be thrown in jail" in another.

Only on RPF can I stumble into two threads and see "we need to make sure parents have the right to decide over their children," and "parents who decide to do this should be thrown in jail" in another.

Love the consistency here, at least we won't confuse anyone who may be new to liberty ideas!

I pressured all of the so-called experts, made them try to defend their positions on established fact and gave them fair warning that any parenting interference, any advocacy of drug prescription or surgery that was not backed by sound medical evidence or need would make their lives miserable.

Jesus loves threats!

Anyone who even remotely thinks even acting like the opposite sex is "all the rage!" in school now needs to stop watching the 700 Club, and stop reading "Conservative Cult Daily." A boy even remotely acting like a girl in school will still get the piss knocked out of him (probably to the cheers of many here). Suicide attempts and successful suicides among those who label themselves as tran, or are experimenting with the idea, are still high. Don't worry, there are still many 14 year olds taking a razor to their wrists every year - wayyyy better than ending up a tranny, right?

[PaulConventionWV]

Some of us don't need one. As sense of humor is a good thing, you should try it some time.

Joke's on you, especially if you think saying "DickConventionWV" amounts to a joke, or anything remotely giggle-worthy.

[PaulConventionWV]

Only on RPF can I walk into two threads and see "keep a patient and doctor relationship out of the government's hands" in one, and "doctors who perform surgery on consenting patients should be thrown in jail" in another.

Only on RPF can I stumble into two threads and see "we need to make sure parents have the right to decide over their children," and "parents who decide to do this should be thrown in jail" in another.

Love the consistency here, at least we won't confuse anyone who may be new to liberty ideas!

You would be confused by that, considering your obvious inability to tell the difference between the mundane and the extraordinary. See, everyone else seems to be able to comprehend that child law is and has always been a gray area, a very vague and tempestuous area of law. Most people can see that killing a child, even if it is your own, is wrong, so obviously very few people actually hold to a strict "do whatever you want with your child" position, but nobody knows exactly where the line should be drawn, so don't act like inconsistency is some kind of indicator of the internal mental states of the collective that expresses both of these conflicting opinions because it's actually quite normal, although I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

Jesus loves threats!

Anyone who even remotely thinks even acting like the opposite sex is "all the rage!" in school now needs to stop watching the 700 Club, and stop reading "Conservative Cult Daily." A boy even remotely acting like a girl in school will still get the piss knocked out of him (probably to the cheers of many here). Suicide attempts and successful suicides among those who label themselves as tran, or are experimenting with the idea, are still high. Don't worry, there are still many 14 year olds taking a razor to their wrists every year - wayyyy better than ending up a tranny, right?

The trend is obvious, and although it may not yet be popular (as it shouldn't) in the mainstream, the propaganda is apparent, and trying to play on the heartstrings of people by acting like they're causing teen suicides by denying the propaganda is detestable. It's not the culture, it's the insemination of these ideas into the mainstream with the obvious intent of swaying public opinion by shaming the majority for its oppressive ideas. Teen suicides are due to mental illness with transsexualism as a symptom. This is being caused by the very people who claim they are standing up for teens with this mental illness, but what they are really doing is reinforcing delusion and causing it to take over the teens' lives so that all they can see is their identity as a transsexual or suicide. So don't get on your high horse. Maybe try a little introspection once in a while.

[farreri]

I think in today's world, in the public system, TPTB would have tried to talk her into being a man, instead of letting her be who she was and grow naturally into womanhood.

If she's naturally straight, no amount of talking by a minority group would have changed that.

[Petar]

Only on RPF can I walk into two threads and see "keep a patient and doctor relationship out of the government's hands" in one, and "doctors who perform surgery on consenting patients should be thrown in jail" in another.

Only on RPF can I stumble into two threads and see "we need to make sure parents have the right to decide over their children," and "parents who decide to do this should be thrown in jail" in another.

Love the consistency here, at least we won't confuse anyone who may be new to liberty ideas!

Jesus loves threats!

Anyone who even remotely thinks even acting like the opposite sex is "all the rage!" in school now needs to stop watching the 700 Club, and stop reading "Conservative Cult Daily." A boy even remotely acting like a girl in school will still get the piss knocked out of him (probably to the cheers of many here). Suicide attempts and successful suicides among those who label themselves as tran, or are experimenting with the idea, are still high. Don't worry, there are still many 14 year olds taking a razor to their wrists every year - wayyyy better than ending up a tranny, right?

Mutilating consenting minors hardly qualifies as any sort of defence.

As long as people like you are promoting the idea that procedures such as this hold any kind of medical validity, then impressionable, young, mentally ill individuals are going to continue to succumb to diseases such as this - and in continuously increasing numbers.

Do Western civilization a favour and be honest about what you are promoting instead - "kindness" and "understanding" don't actually have anything to do with it.

[RonPaulIsGreat]

I don't believe all but a small percentage of gays/transgender are actually "naturally" that way. The only gay person I've known well enough to know the history was sexually abused for years by a male priest. Now, he's miraculously gay. So, yeah...

Children for the most part are little repeater boxes, they understand almost nothing, but blindly accept truths fed to them like computers. So, IMO, it's almost certain if you see a "gay" 10 year old, or transteen, the parents/school/friends/rapey priests put that in their dumb little heads. I don't exclude the possibility of naturally occurring trans people, but it would seem to me, the safe route would be to wait until the person in question has at least the smallest ability to think for themselves, as in being an adult before any hormone treatments or chopping off of parts.

[Lucille]

Only on RPF can I walk into two threads and see "keep a patient and doctor relationship out of the government's hands" in one, and "doctors who perform surgery on consenting patients should be thrown in jail" in another.

Only on RPF can I stumble into two threads and see "we need to make sure parents have the right to decide over their children," and "parents who decide to do this should be thrown in jail" in another.

Love the consistency here, at least we won't confuse anyone who may be new to liberty ideas!

Public school is child abuse, and the government and its schools are deliberately advancing this agenda. Now ask yourself why the system would do that (and let me give you a clue: It's not because the state $#@!ing "cares" about kids and their well-being).

I pressured all of the so-called experts, made them try to defend their positions on established fact and gave them fair warning that any parenting interference, any advocacy of drug prescription or surgery that was not backed by sound medical evidence or need would make their lives miserable.

Nirvikalpa: Jesus loves threats!

You think Jesus would oppose evidence-based medicine, and wouldn't want parents to defend and protect their children from the evil state and its insane agenda of mutilating childrens' bodies before their brains are even fully formed yet?

I do not have US figures, but in the UK there has been a 930% increase in referrals for children who believe they are transgender — and this increase was seen in only one year. http://www.transgendertrend.com/uk-n...ity-referrals/

Nirvikalpa: Anyone who even remotely thinks even acting like the opposite sex is "all the rage!" in school now needs to stop watching the 700 Club, and stop reading "Conservative Cult Daily."

See above. You think that looks like an organic increase in referrals?

Nirvikalpa: A boy even remotely acting like a girl in school will still get the piss knocked out of him (probably to the cheers of many here). Suicide attempts and successful suicides among those who label themselves as tran, or are experimenting with the idea, are still high. Don't worry, there are still many 14 year olds taking a razor to their wrists every year - wayyyy better than ending up a tranny, right?

Yeah, that's what I want. For kids to get the $#@! kicked out of them and/or kill themselves. Don't be a complete ass.

Post-surgical transvestites have an incredibly high rate of suicide. Do you really believe school-aged children are capable of deciding (with a generous amount of encouragement from the system and its agents) to irrevocably destroy their bodies with hormones and/or surgery?!

Yes, do visit 4thwavenow.com. It’s like reading samizdat for the sane and ideologically uncowed. There, I found this link to a recent New York magazine piece by Jesse Singal, who writes about overwhelming number of gender dysphoric kids — 80 percent — who eventually resolve their disharmony by identifying with their birth sex. This is called “desistance.”

80% change their minds about it.

I want them out of the system's indoctrination factories, because it has gone completely off the rails. This is insanity, and is absolutely child abuse.

You, of course, are free to believe the Transmania sweeping the country is all perfectly natural, and continue to insinuate people who are trying to protect their kids from this abuse are bigots and want to see kids suffer all you want, but it doesn't make it $#@!ing true.

Bye, girl ze.