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  1. #2851
    Holy Thread Resurrection Batman!!!
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  3. #2852
    Just to see where we were, when this thread started (October, 2009) and it predicted a crash, the DOW was just below 10,000.

  4. #2853
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Just to see where we were, when this thread started (October, 2009) and it predicted a crash, the DOW was just below 10,000.
    10 K was pretty crappy too for 10/ 09 .

  5. #2854
    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Holy Thread Resurrection Batman!!!

  6. #2855
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    busting through 240000, crash!!!

  7. #2856
    Dow is up 300 , all of you liquidate every asset and invest it all in Apple , Boeing and American Express .LOL



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  9. #2857
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    busting through 240000, crash!!!


    I am a permabull but finally this thread might have some relevance.

    All the stocks leading the market sold off yesterday. NVDA, AMZN, OSTK, ESIO as well as semiconductors. Seems like a canary in the coal mine. My guess is a 5% sell off from the peak if the tax bill passes over a few weeks.

  10. #2858
    Quote Originally Posted by ChooseLiberty View Post
    Wuh Woh

    It's October, time for a crash. It's not that easy is it? Is it?

    http://www.safehaven.com/article-14697.htm
    9865 to 25,792; has not aged well! What a crazy, nostalgic time this was in the world casino!
    "Your mother's dead, before long I'll be dead, and you...and your brother and your sister and all of her children, all of us dead, all of us..rotting in the ground. It's the family name that lives on. It's all that lives on. Not your personal glory, not your honor, but family." - Tywin Lannister


  11. #2859
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post

    I am a permabull but finally this thread might have some relevance.

    All the stocks leading the market sold off yesterday. NVDA, AMZN, OSTK, ESIO as well as semiconductors. Seems like a canary in the coal mine. My guess is a 5% sell off from the peak if the tax bill passes over a few weeks.
    Always somebody predicting a crash or pullback. This thread is a good example.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 01-17-2018 at 12:24 PM.
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  12. #2860
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Always somebody predicting a crash or pullback. This thread is a good example.
    I am all for owning bad predictions, but in all fairness to me, that short worked out well. I posted that November 30th. The tax bill passed in the evening Dec. 1st. See what the S&P did after that. But the bigger start to a pullback didn't materialize. That is true And even then 5% is not a crash or even a real pullback. That isn't exactly saying something very bearish. It isn't the doom and gloom in the rest of the thread.
    Last edited by Krugminator2; 01-17-2018 at 04:03 PM.

  13. #2861
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  14. #2862
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Always somebody predicting a crash or pullback. This thread is a good example.


    And for some context, why I combined the tax bill and 5%.

    20 Longest Stretches of DJIA Without 5% Corrections


  15. #2863
    Up 6K from 52 week low ? 26,071

  16. #2864
    I’m getting nervous, thinking about walking away with my gains.



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  18. #2865
    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    I’m getting nervous, thinking about walking away with my gains.
    Extended shutdown would make a good cover story for a large pull back. Better hope nothing bigger, like act of terrorism, occurs during the shutdown. Markets would flash crash.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  19. #2866
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Extended shutdown would make a good cover story for a large pull back. Better hope nothing bigger, like act of terrorism, occurs during the shutdown. Markets would flash crash.
    The dollar has been dropping a lot lately. The DXY is down to 89 and the 10 year is up to 2.65. I always figured the stock markets would crash first, then more QE, then the dollar would tank. Maybe the dollar goes first?

  20. #2867
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    The dollar has been dropping a lot lately. The DXY is down to 89 and the 10 year is up to 2.65. I always figured the stock markets would crash first, then more QE, then the dollar would tank. Maybe the dollar goes first?
    Well, if the goal is to implode the entire system for a reset (and that's very, very possible given global economic changes underway, dollar reserve being dismantled), blowing up the bond market is how to do it since everything else dollar denominated essentially originates from the bond market. Just my 0.02 but I think the Fed already raised the target rate again but hasn't announced it and it will be framed as a 'surprise' hike at the next public dissemination of FOMC meeting results.

    What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in Davos right now.
    Last edited by devil21; 01-24-2018 at 01:06 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  21. #2868
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Well, if the goal is to implode the entire system for a reset (and that's very, very possible given global economic changes underway, dollar reserve being dismantled), blowing up the bond market is how to do it since everything else dollar denominated essentially originates from the bond market. Just my 0.02 but I think the Fed already raised the target rate again but hasn't announced it and it will be framed as a 'surprise' hike at the next public dissemination of FOMC meeting results.
    The Fed is terrified of inflation and loves deflation. Deflation is easy and fun to fix, just give out more free money. Inflation is extremely painful to fix, they have to take money away, crash the markets, crash the economy and bankrupt the banks. Given that I would guess that the Fed wants so make a big show out of it's teensy, little rate hikes to try to make it look like they are fighting inflation and to keep the dollar from sinking.

  22. #2869
    I've been waiting for the market crash for 40 years. I'm still waiting...

    My wife on the other hand has been investing in the market and the "unrealized gains" are crazy. If we can cash it out before the big crash we will be sitting pretty but if the crash is sudden and deep we will lose...
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  23. #2870
    Futures are looking uuuuuugly. 20% pop in VIX yesterday. Global markets are in sell-off mode, bond yields continue rising. Looks like a correction is finally underway. Whether it turns into a crash, I don't know.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  24. #2871
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Futures are looking uuuuuugly. 20% pop in VIX yesterday. Global markets are in sell-off mode, bond yields continue rising. Looks like a correction is finally underway. Whether it turns into a crash, I don't know.
    Normally a 1% drop is nothing but it really stands out now since it's been going up pretty much every day for a year and a half. I think we've only had one or two 1% daily drops in the last year and a half.

  25. #2872
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    I've been waiting for the market crash for 40 years. I'm still waiting......
    There's been some pretty big crashes in the last 40 years.



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  27. #2873
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    There's been some pretty big crashes in the last 40 years.
    Don't remember ever having to wait in a bread line. No, I'm talking about a REAL crash. A "wrath of God" crash. One that the FED and the goonerment don't recover from - EVER...
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  28. #2874
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    Don't remember ever having to wait in a bread line. No, I'm talking about a REAL crash. A "wrath of God" crash. One that the FED and the goonerment don't recover from - EVER...
    That'll be a dollar crash. Logically the dollar has to crash eventually. Otherwise we could just print our way out of every market crash.

  29. #2875
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    That'll be a dollar crash. Logically the dollar has to crash eventually. Otherwise we could just print our way out of every market crash.
    That's the one I'm still waiting for. When I was in my 20's I said that the pyramid scam would be over before I ever got a chance to collect any money I've put into it (social security in case I need to clarify). I'm 2 months away from qualifying so unless that crash happens in the next two months I'll have been wrong about that prediction. I'm actually already wrong because I thought the crash would have happened a long time ago. I'm certainly not saying that the crash is NOT coming but I am saying I was way off on when I thought it would happen.
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  30. #2876
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    Don't remember ever having to wait in a bread line. No, I'm talking about a REAL crash. A "wrath of God" crash. One that the FED and the goonerment don't recover from - EVER...
    We did not have bread line only because there were record number of millions on food stamps . The actual employment numbers were worse last crash than the Great Depression . Going from five people for each job available to 6 .

  31. #2877
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    That's the one I'm still waiting for. When I was in my 20's I said that the pyramid scam would be over before I ever got a chance to collect any money I've put into it (social security in case I need to clarify). I'm 2 months away from qualifying so unless that crash happens in the next two months I'll have been wrong about that prediction. I'm actually already wrong because I thought the crash would have happened a long time ago. I'm certainly not saying that the crash is NOT coming but I am saying I was way off on when I thought it would happen.
    That's one reason most of my investments are inflation hedges. If I'm wrong I'll be able to live on SS, if I'm right my investments will go way up.

  32. #2878
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianAnarchist View Post
    I've been waiting for the market crash for 40 years. I'm still waiting...

    My wife on the other hand has been investing in the market and the "unrealized gains" are crazy. If we can cash it out before the big crash we will be sitting pretty but if the crash is sudden and deep we will lose...
    My wife is the same, all though her approach isn't flashy as it is more safe. She is spread across several energy stocks with dividend pay outs regardless of performance, and has those dividends roll back into purchasing more of those stocks. LOL....she HOPES for corrections and crashes, as it leads to us owning more of those companies. So, when they rebound the totals jump.
    "Self conquest is the greatest of all victories." - Plato

  33. #2879
    The question isn't whether a correction or crash will occur, it's how far down will it go? The big players want a correction because they are prepared to profit, but they will also want to turn it around quickly so they can then profit on the upside.
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  34. #2880
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The question isn't whether a correction or crash will occur, it's how far down will it go? The big players want a correction because they are prepared to profit, but they will also want to turn it around quickly so they can then profit on the upside.
    Yeah....sad but true. And I fully admit to the hypocrisy on my part that my wife has built our portfolio (albeit to a MUCH lesser degree than the ones you're speaking to) around the same premise.
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