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  3. #1082
    $61k
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  4. #1083
    $64.5k
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  5. #1084
    "The digital currencies that matter - Get ready for Fedcoin and the e-euro" - Economist mag

    https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...es-that-matter



    Well dang, that looks just like a picture of a...........naaaa couldn't be. Posters on this 37 page thread been sayin' 'nuh uh' for 4 years now. The "G" and All Seeing Eye is a nice touch, guys. No one will ever figure that out. Must be coincidence that bitcoin's highest price so far is 63333. When does it hit 66600 then crash?
    Last edited by devil21; 05-08-2021 at 12:19 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  6. #1085
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    "The digital currencies that matter - Get ready for Fedcoin and the e-euro" - Economist mag

    https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...es-that-matter



    Well dang, that looks just like a picture of a...........naaaa couldn't be. Posters on this 37 page thread been sayin' 'nuh uh' for 4 years now. The "G" and All Seeing Eye is a nice touch, guys. No one will ever figure that out. Must be coincidence that bitcoin's highest price so far is 63333. When does it hit 66600 then crash?
    I've always argued Fedcoin was inevitable. Bitcoin is a tool to avoid it and have alternatives.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  7. #1086
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I've always argued Fedcoin was inevitable. Bitcoin is a tool to avoid it and have alternatives.
    Are we going for 38 pages of nuh uh?

    Seeing reports tonight that Coinbase is locking up bitcoin trades "for your protection".......Gensler said the other day that the SEC is going to institute regulations to "protect the consumer". Seems Coinbase is already starting to protect the $#@! out of bitcoiners. (Pro tip: None of the exchanges have the actual dollar liquidity to back up the nominal crypto prices. But that's how it's always been in banker-land. Fractional reserve garbage that collapses when everyone runs for the exits because it's all smoke and mirrors. Maybe Coinbase has a little more since getting a Wall Street handout when it went public the other day but the rest of the exchanges have long since made off with your dollars and can't/won't actually cash you out in any large amounts. Ponzi scheme writ large.)

    Elon appearing on SNL tonight too. Given that he's a front man for "deep state", I wouldn't be surprised if his appearance marks the end of this whole production and it's quickly downhill from here.
    Last edited by devil21; 05-08-2021 at 07:10 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  8. #1087
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Are we going for 38 pages of nuh uh?

    Seeing reports tonight that Coinbase is locking up bitcoin trades "for your protection".......Gensler said the other day that the SEC is going to institute regulations to "protect the consumer". Seems Coinbase is already starting to protect the $#@! out of bitcoiners. (Pro tip: None of the exchanges have the actual dollar liquidity to back up the nominal crypto prices. But that's how it's always been in banker-land. Fractional reserve garbage that collapses when everyone runs for the exits because it's all smoke and mirrors. Maybe Coinbase has a little more since getting a Wall Street handout when it went public the other day but the rest of the exchanges have long since made off with your dollars and can't/won't actually cash you out in any large amounts. Ponzi scheme writ large.)

    Elon appearing on SNL tonight too. Given that he's a front man for "deep state", I wouldn't be surprised if his appearance marks the end of this whole production and it's quickly downhill from here.
    You're a weird dude.. why would coinbase have the cash liquidity to backup their bitcoin balances? That's like asking a gold vault to have the cash liquidity to backup their gold deposits... They have the GOLD. That's the whole point.

    No idea what you are talking about with coinbase locking up bitcoin trades, but coinbase is just an exchange. It's not bitcoin. If you have large amounts of crypto, you shouldn't be keeping it all on exchanges.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  9. #1088
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You're a weird dude..
    In today's world that's called "thinking"...for that I plead guilty.

    why would coinbase have the cash liquidity to backup their bitcoin balances? That's like asking a gold vault to have the cash liquidity to backup their gold deposits... They have the GOLD. That's the whole point.
    Gold is real and is money itself, therefore no cash liquidity is necessary. Neither bitcoin nor digital dollars on a ledger are real and are not money. Mighty big difference.

    No idea what you are talking about with coinbase locking up bitcoin trades, but coinbase is just an exchange. It's not bitcoin. If you have large amounts of crypto, you shouldn't be keeping it all on exchanges.
    Just some reports I saw that coinbase was behaving strangely yesterday. I see robinhood crashed again when doge dumped too lol.

    Maybe I'm missing a piece of info but in order to cash out bitcoin into digital dollars, don't you still need to go back onto an exchange to do that? The exchange needs to have dollar liquidity to send to you, right? If they don't then how is it any different than the rest of the fractional reserve ponzi junk, where claims on an asset far exceed availability of the asset?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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  11. #1089
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Gold is real and is money itself, therefore no cash liquidity is necessary. Neither bitcoin nor digital dollars on a ledger are real and are not money. Mighty big difference.
    Gold isn't any more "real money" or any more "real" than bitcoin as long as there is the network infrastructure to support it.. gold and bitcoin both have pro's and cons. One of the cons of bitcoin is that it requires network infrastructure. One of the pro's is that I can send you bitcoin if you are in another state or country without having worry about physical delivery. Imagine trying to send a few bars of gold to somebody in another country, safely and securely. It would be expensive and risky. With bitcoin, it is extremely cheap and secure to transfer. You can do it all day, instantaneously, back and forth. Bitcoin also has much greater security than gold. Somebody with a lot of guns can come and take your gold, but there are easy ways to prevent this with bitcoin. Otherwise, they are similar as there are limited amounts of gold, and limited amounts of bitcoin.

    If people stopped buying gold - let's say somebody found a way to produce gold cheaply using aluminum. People would run to the gold shops and start trying to sell at the current prices, but nobody would be willing to buy and the liquidity would drop the same way as if people ran for the exit on bitcoin.

    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Maybe I'm missing a piece of info but in order to cash out bitcoin into digital dollars, don't you still need to go back onto an exchange to do that? The exchange needs to have dollar liquidity to send to you, right? If they don't then how is it any different than the rest of the fractional reserve ponzi junk, where claims on an asset far exceed availability of the asset?
    Like a stock, or like gold, the price is based on the last sale that occurred. That means at any price bitcoin is at, there are willing buyers and sellers. So when you cash out your bitcoin at an exchange, the willing buyers buy up the bitcoin and whatever the price they are willing to pay for it is, that is the current price of bitcoin.

    I'm not trashing gold, gold is great. Bitcoin is great. They are both useful in ways that the other one isn't. People should own both.
    Last edited by dannno; 05-09-2021 at 02:19 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  12. #1090
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Elon appearing on SNL tonight too. Given that he's a front man for "deep state", I wouldn't be surprised if his appearance marks the end of this whole production and it's quickly downhill from here.
    Lookin' pretty prescient here. BTC was 58k that night of 5-8-21. Been downhill since. It's 29K tonight.

    May 23rd marked the biblical harvest of first fruits of (your) labor, called Pentacost....must be coincidence, seeing how bitcoin isn't a banker invention, so I'm told.

    I wonder if the harvest of second fruits takes place on a much larger scale in early fall? Naaa, that's crazy talk.
    Last edited by devil21; 07-20-2021 at 12:30 AM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  13. #1091
    previous ATH broken... 66.9k

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  15. #1093
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    back to 38k

    time to buy.
    I don't know. I think that is just a double dip. I could be totally off but I see it going even lower with the pending EO. I predict the bottom this time is under 30.

  16. #1094
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I don't know. I think that is just a double dip. I could be totally off but I see it going even lower with the pending EO. I predict the bottom this time is under 30.
    when the FBI busted the first Silk Road in September 2013... noobs panic sold saying Bitcoin was now useless.

    then i shot from 100 usd to 1300..

    That EO could be good for Bitcoin. It will be bad for $#@!coins though that are securities.

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  18. #1096
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I don't know. I think that is just a double dip. I could be totally off but I see it going even lower with the pending EO. I predict the bottom this time is under 30.
    Been watching patiently. Currently 23 still no bottom in sight.



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  20. #1097
    S&p now a loss since biden took over, expecting the same for bitcoin. Oil at 122 thhough.
    Do something Danke

  21. #1098
    Hai guyz! Are we still pretending like Bitcoin, et al wasn't purposely developed and released to promote the idea of blockchain CBDCs? Trying to figure out where in the propaganda timeline we are. Kthxbai!
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  22. #1099
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Hai guyz! Are we still pretending like Bitcoin, et al wasn't purposely developed and released to promote the idea of blockchain CBDCs? Trying to figure out where in the propaganda timeline we are. Kthxbai!
    I don't care about the who or why. My only concern is can it make me money.

    At 19 now. I've read predictions the bottom will be 14 or as low as 11. If it recovers to previous levels, there is profit to be made.

  23. #1100
    For everything people say BTC is one thing I can say is that it is not stable.

  24. #1101
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    For everything people say BTC is one thing I can say is that it is not stable.
    They tried that with the stablecoins that were pegged to the USD. Many of them are unpegging and losing value.

    Personally I think BTC is too volitile to use as originally intended for purchases.

    My only interest is speculative, I might buy at the bottom and sell if it regains the previous levels.

  25. #1102
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    They tried that with the stablecoins that were pegged to the USD. Many of them are unpegging and losing value.

    Personally I think BTC is too volitile to use as originally intended for purchases.

    My only interest is speculative, I might buy at the bottom and sell if it regains the previous levels.
    That sounds great! The only trick is knowing where the "bottom" is.

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  27. #1104
    I'd say the organic BTC community has support at 20k. To their mid-term memories <20 smells like a 'bargain'.

    Institutional investors, the Central Bank Regime, and the Deep State have other plans though.

    As Bob Higgs says -- "Regime Uncertainty"
    >_<



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  29. #1105
    Lot of bad news like crypto hedge funds blowing up, people not getting paid on different crypto sites, everyone saying crypto worthless, etc. but Bitcoin still holding right at it's previous all time high. Seems pretty bullish.

  30. #1106
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    Lot of bad news like crypto hedge funds blowing up, people not getting paid on different crypto sites, everyone saying crypto worthless, etc. but Bitcoin still holding right at it's previous all time high. Seems pretty bullish.
    You lost me here. "holding at its previous all time high." Wasn't it nearly 70k at one point?

  31. #1107
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    You lost me here. "holding at its previous all time high." Wasn't it nearly 70k at one point?
    2017 high.

    https://finviz.com/crypto_charts.ashx?t=BTCUSD&tf=mo

  32. #1108
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    If it happens to drop down to $5,000 will it be holding at its previous high also?

  33. #1109
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    If it happens to drop down to $5,000 will it be holding at its previous high also?
    Dec 2017 high is 19666, so no. See chart.

  34. #1110
    Pretty crucial pt for crypto. Will be interesting to see if it puts in a higher low. Wouldn't be surprised if Wednesday CPI is an inflection pt up or down for crypto.

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